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Re: Arthur's remnents near the BOC

#641 Postby Category 5 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:00 pm

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Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:I know theres dry air. But its not impossible for development even with dry air...I'm not saying this will become anything more then maybe a weak Bret like tropical storm.


+ 30kts of sheer + No convection near the center + Very limited time = Next system.

It just has too much working against it.


Come on cat 5! lets just see what happens..maybe its the wine i found..lol..but its fun to look at and there is not much else to look at and something could..could try to spin up


Na, wishcasting won't help me in college.
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#642 Postby StormspinnerD2 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:02 pm

I misread the map, but the dry air is still there, and that ridge isn't budging.
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Re: Arthur's remnents near the BOC

#643 Postby Category 5 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:03 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:30kts?????

hmmm.. look again
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Oops, thanks for correcting me there.

Regardless, dry air should still suffocate it.
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Re: Arthur's remnents near the BOC

#644 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:04 pm

Ivanhater wrote:
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Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:I know theres dry air. But its not impossible for development even with dry air...I'm not saying this will become anything more then maybe a weak Bret like tropical storm.


+ 30kts of sheer + No convection near the center + Very limited time = Next system.

It just has too much working against it.

Come on cat 5! lets just see what happens..maybe its the wine i found..lol..but its fun to look at and there is not much else to look at and something could..could try to spin up


Na, wishcasting won't help me in college.


but who's wishing... ?????
im just observing
im in college now! doing what i do does not hurt me while im here /// what do you do??
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Re: Arthur's remnents near the BOC

#645 Postby Category 5 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:08 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:but who's wishing... ?????
im just observing
im in college now! doing what i do does not hurt me while im here /// what do you do??


I'm basically saying that key facts are being ignored here, seemingly on purpose, as they've been brought up several times and overlooked in an attempt to bring a dead storm back to life. Aka, wishcasting.

And this fall I'll be doing exactly what you're doing, thanks for asking. :D
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Re: Arthur's remnents near the BOC

#646 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:11 pm

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Aric Dunn wrote:but who's wishing... ?????
im just observing
im in college now! doing what i do does not hurt me while im here /// what do you do??


I'm basically saying that key facts are being ignored here, seemingly on purpose, as they've been brought up several times and overlooked in an attempt to bring a dead storm back to life. Aka, wishcasting.

And this fall I'll be doing exactly what you're doing, thanks for asking. :D

what being ignored?
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Re: Arthur's remnents near the BOC

#647 Postby Category 5 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:12 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
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Aric Dunn wrote:but who's wishing... ?????
im just observing
im in college now! doing what i do does not hurt me while im here /// what do you do??


I'm basically saying that key facts are being ignored here, seemingly on purpose, as they've been brought up several times and overlooked in an attempt to bring a dead storm back to life. Aka, wishcasting.

And this fall I'll be doing exactly what you're doing, thanks for asking. :D

what being ignored?


Dry air, short time over water, the absense of convection.

Tell you what, I'll make a wager. If this reforms, I'll wear the S2K Crow Award as my avatar until Bertha forms.
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Re: Arthur's remnents near the BOC

#648 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:13 pm

here are the few images

i will add them as they come in

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Re: Arthur's remnents near the BOC

#649 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:14 pm

im in college too cat 5..just gotta take a step back and see what happens
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Re: Arthur's remnents near the BOC

#650 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:17 pm

Ivanhater wrote:im in college too cat 5..just gotta take a step back and see what happens

this is off topics but what is everyone doing for their degree? \
im doing BA in Space Physics and minor in meteorology, mathematics, astronomy..
im on my senior year
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Re: Arthur's remnents near the BOC

#651 Postby Category 5 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:19 pm

Ivanhater wrote:im in college too cat 5..just gotta take a step back and see what happens


As far as I'm concerned, everything has at least a 1% chance.

It's going to be hard for this to gain convection with such dry air. So the odds stand at 1%.
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Re: Arthur's remnents near the BOC

#652 Postby Category 5 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:20 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:im in college too cat 5..just gotta take a step back and see what happens

this is off topics but what is everyone doing for their degree? \
im doing BA in Space Physics and minor in meteorology, mathematics, astronomy..
im on my senior year


I'm majoring in Meteorology, and minoring in Enviromental science. I'm starting as a freshman this fall. I'm thinking about taking a 5th year depending on how things turn out.
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Re: Arthur's remnents near the BOC

#653 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:21 pm

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Ivanhater wrote:im in college too cat 5..just gotta take a step back and see what happens

this is off topics but what is everyone doing for their degree? \
im doing BA in Space Physics and minor in meteorology, mathematics, astronomy..
im on my senior year


I'm majoring in Meteorology, and minoring in Enviromental science. I'm starting as a freshman this fall. I'm thinking about taking a 5th year depending on how things turn out.


your first symester is this fall
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Re: Arthur's remnents near the BOC

#654 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:22 pm

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Aric Dunn wrote:but who's wishing... ?????
im just observing
im in college now! doing what i do does not hurt me while im here /// what do you do??


I'm basically saying that key facts are being ignored here, seemingly on purpose, as they've been brought up several times and overlooked in an attempt to bring a dead storm back to life. Aka, wishcasting.

And this fall I'll be doing exactly what you're doing, thanks for asking. :D



Please stop acting like it's wishcasting to think that a LLC that is closed based on surface obs is something that we should forget about and say next about. There is a upper level AntiCyclone based on the fact that there is 5-15 knot winds with in the area and upper level fanning of the clouds with in the area...Yes there is dry air, but tropical cyclones can and do form with it. It's not good for rapid development of a tropical cyclone. A LLC can and do develop and needs to be watched...It is wishcasting to discount this like this.
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Re: Arthur's remnents near the BOC

#655 Postby Category 5 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:29 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:There is a upper level AntiCyclone based on the fact that there is 5-15 knot winds with in the area and upper level fanning of the clouds with in the area...Yes there is dry air, but tropical cyclones can and do form with it. It's not good for rapid development of a tropical cyclone. A LLC can and do develop and needs to be watched.


While your point is valid, it has one major flaw in this situation (Which I have been kind enough to color in red). Look at a map of where this thing is at. It doesn't have time for slow development. Looking at these small details isn't wishcasting. Ignoring them is. I've made my point so I have no need to say any further. If you haven't seen or gotten that point, I'm done wasting my time.
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Re: Arthur's remnents near the BOC

#656 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:30 pm

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Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:There is a upper level AntiCyclone based on the fact that there is 5-15 knot winds with in the area and upper level fanning of the clouds with in the area...Yes there is dry air, but tropical cyclones can and do form with it. It's not good for rapid development of a tropical cyclone. A LLC can and do develop and needs to be watched.


While your point is valid, it has one major flaw in this situation. Look at a map of where this thing is at. It doesn't have time for slow development. Looking at these small details isn't wishcasting. Ignoring them is. I've made my point so I have no need to say any further.


actually you have not made your point...
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Re: Arthur's remnents near the BOC

#657 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:32 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:im in college too cat 5..just gotta take a step back and see what happens

this is off topics but what is everyone doing for their degree? \
im doing BA in Space Physics and minor in meteorology, mathematics, astronomy..
im on my senior year


I was doing meteorology but am now doing political science and air force and will commission when I graduate and go straight in the air force.
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#658 Postby Chacor » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:33 pm

He's made it well enough. The conditions are not favourable for development. It's whether you're accepting his point or not, not whether he's made it.
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Re: Arthur's remnents near the BOC

#659 Postby Category 5 » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:34 pm

Ivanhater wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:im in college too cat 5..just gotta take a step back and see what happens

this is off topics but what is everyone doing for their degree? \
im doing BA in Space Physics and minor in meteorology, mathematics, astronomy..
im on my senior year


I was doing meteorology but am now doing political science and air force and will commission when I graduate and go straight in the air force.


You going to try for the Hurricane Hunters eventually?
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Re: Arthur's remnents near the BOC

#660 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:36 pm

I was doing meteorology but am now doing political science and air force and will commission when I graduate and go straight in the air force.[/quote]

You going to try for the Hurricane Hunters eventually?[/quote]

Well thats only reserves..I will be an officer Active duty..but I wish!
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