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Subtropical storm NW of New Zealand

#1 Postby Chacor » Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:16 am

GALE WARNING 148
This affects ocean area: SUBTROPIC
AT 070000UTC

Over waters east of 160E.
Low 1009hPa near 33S 161E moving eastnortheast 15kt.
Within 240 miles of low in southwest semicircle: Clockwise 35kt.
Gale area moving with low.
This warning cancels and replaces warning 143.

Issued at 01:55:31Z on 07-Jun-2008

This satellite fix just came in from SAB:
WWPS20 KNES 070505

A. TROPICAL DISTURBANCE (98P)

B. 07/0230Z

C. 32.4S

D. 162.4E

E. THREE/MTSAT

F. ST3.0/3.0/DX.X/24HRS

G. IR/EIR/VIS/QUIKSCAT

H. REMARKS...SUBTROPICAL SYSTEM HAS GAINED ORGANIZATION PAST 12
HOURS WITH A CONVECTIVE RING OF MG SURROUNDING CENTER THAT HAS BEEN
COOLING/EXPANDING. SYSTEM IS MOVING RAPIDLY TO THE NORTHEAST THEREBY
MINIMIZING RELATIVE SHEAR OVER SYSTEM. QUIKSCAT PASS FROM 2004Z HAD MAX
WINDS OF 45 KTS ON WEST SIDE WITH 35 KTS ON EAST EDGE OF CENTER...RUMINSKI

Feel free to move to active storms, but TCWC Wellington/RSMC Fiji haven't picked up on this, and neither has NRL.

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#2 Postby Chacor » Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:20 am

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#3 Postby StormspinnerD2 » Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:35 am

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#4 Postby Chacor » Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:37 am

Moving ENE into more tropical areas.
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#5 Postby Ad Novoxium » Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:00 am

It reminds me of the 95 Mediterranean hurricane. Looks pretty decent given where it is.
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#6 Postby StormspinnerD2 » Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:17 am

The convection looks to have deepened in the last couple hours.

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#7 Postby StormspinnerD2 » Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:19 am

Deepened a bit.

GALE WARNING 153
This affects ocean area: SUBTROPIC
AT 070600UTC

Over waters east of 160E.
Low 1006hPa near 32S 163E moving eastnortheast 15kt.
Within 240 miles of low in southwest semicircle: Clockwise 35kt.
Gale area moving with low.
This warning cancels and replaces warning 148.

Issued at 07:31:16Z on 07-Jun-2008
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#8 Postby KWT » Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:22 am

That looks quite amazingly like Vince did when it was a hurricane now, small region of deep convection around the eyewall with a nice eye present, very interesting little system!
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#10 Postby Chacor » Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:02 am

Losing a bit of convection on the northern side now. Shear in the area is >40 kts.
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#11 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:17 am

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Convection returning to the northern part of the storm.
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#12 Postby Chacor » Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:27 am

WWPS20 KNES 071530

A. TROPICAL DISTURBANCE (98P)

B. 07/1430Z

C. 29.8S

D. 164.7E

E. THREE/MTSAT

F. ST3.0/3.0/DX.X/24HRS

G. IR/EIR/SWIR

H. REMARKS...SUBTROPICAL SYSTEM CONTINUING TO MOVE RAPIDLY TO THE
NORTHEAST. DG MORE WRAPPED AROUND CENTER FROM 6 HOURS AGO WITH CORE MG
(SOME LG) CONVECTION NOW ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE STORM.
...LIDDICK
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#13 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:28 am

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#14 Postby Derek Ortt » Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:29 am

advisories should be issued. Not sure why they are not. It appears to be borderline tropical if anything
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#15 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:30 am

07/1430 UTC 29.8S 164.7E ST3.0/3.0 98P -- South Pacific Ocean
07/0830 UTC 31.2S 163.8E ST3.0/3.0 98P -- South Pacific Ocean
07/0230 UTC 32.4S 162.4E ST3.0/3.0 98P -- South Pacific Ocean

Should we move this to the Active Storms forum?
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#16 Postby Chacor » Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:34 am

It's not an official NRL invest.

Derek I guess it's because they don't do subtropical advisories in this basin (TCWC Wellington). Maybe if it becomes more tropical and reaches 25S (enters Fiji's area).
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#17 Postby Derek Ortt » Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:36 pm

even so, in the Atlantic this would likely have been classified as tropical (both north and south Atlantic). However, we do use a more liberal definition as to when TT has occurred
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#18 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:49 pm

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Vince, this storm and the Mediterranean cyclones or hurricanes are very similar.
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#19 Postby Chacor » Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:50 pm

Looking at the loop, appears to have taken a northern jog.
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#20 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:58 pm

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Losing convection.
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