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ATL: Tropical Storm Bertha RECON Discussion

#1 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:09 am

Lets discuss the RECON on Hurricane Bertha here.
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#2 Postby KWT » Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:10 am

How long should it take to fly towards Bertha, must take a while as its some distance away from the base?
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Bertha RECON Discussion

#3 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:11 am

Around 1:30 PM EDT to 2 PM it will be very close or arrived at eye.
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#4 Postby KWT » Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:14 am

Ah ok so in other words we've got a very long wait till they evn reach the outer bands of Bertha yet alone the inner core.
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#5 Postby hiflyer » Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:47 am

Interesting plot differences....Hurrakan is using Google Earth and plots the flight just north of the coast of Florida now....but the Tropical Atlantic guys have it following right down Interstate 10...grin. Gonna get rough for them when they run out of road at Jacksonville....hehehehe
http://www.tropicalatlantic.com/recon/a ... n=01&map=1
Impressive plotting by both groups.....!!

All those in favor of putting commercial aircraft ACARS on the fleet so you can track with Flight Explorer or Flight Aware say 'aye'....the P3's and the G4 have it.....even the t38's for NASA.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Bertha RECON Discussion

#6 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:53 am

It willl be interesting to see if our member pojo is in this mission.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Bertha RECON Discussion

#7 Postby gotoman38 » Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:57 am

I seem to have misplaced a working link for Henk's GE tracking file - does anyone have it?
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#8 Postby Chacor » Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:58 am

Is there an SFMR instrument on this craft?
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#9 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:07 am

Looking at past missions, looks like they don't always turn it on right away. Plus, since it would have a wrong reading over land anyway, I don't think they have it on while over land.

As soon as they hit the water, or maybe closer to the storm, I bet they'll turn it on. The extrap pressures do not start right away either sometimes.
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#10 Postby KWT » Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:08 am

Yep I think they turn that on a little later on as they get closer to the system and drop altitude.
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#11 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:09 am

hiflyer wrote:Interesting plot differences....Hurrakan is using Google Earth and plots the flight just north of the coast of Florida now....but the Tropical Atlantic guys have it following right down Interstate 10...grin. Gonna get rough for them when they run out of road at Jacksonville....hehehehe
http://www.tropicalatlantic.com/recon/a ... n=01&map=1
Impressive plotting by both groups.....!!

All those in favor of putting commercial aircraft ACARS on the fleet so you can track with Flight Explorer or Flight Aware say 'aye'....the P3's and the G4 have it.....even the t38's for NASA.


Let me know if anything about the TA decoder fails. I just did a lot of updates to the underlying framework of the system. At least the mapping is back now, I forgot to upload the updated file this morning which was why it didn't start off mapping right away.
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#12 Postby KWT » Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:13 am

Well looks like recon has just passed into the Atlantic ocean having just come through Florida, should still be another 3-4hrs I'd guess till recon reaches Bertha.

I can imagine if you knew where to look you'd be able to see the recon plane flying out for those above the path.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Bertha RECON Discussion

#13 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:21 am

I wonder if Captain Mitchell is flying. Easy on the eyes, that one. The other TWC 53rd WRS officer, LTC Warren Madden, has degrees from PSU and MIT, and is obviously a sharp fellow, but he isn't as easy on the eyes.
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#14 Postby HenkL » Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:59 am

Link to the GE tracking file can be found here: http://wxgr.nl/?weer_recon.htm
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Bertha RECON Discussion

#15 Postby Thunder44 » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:03 am

In case anybody missed this in other recon thread. I'm holding a contest for today's mission, in the contest forum. You must enter by 12:30pm today:


viewtopic.php?f=25&t=101778
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#16 Postby pojo » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:11 am

To both of your questions stated earlier... neither of those people are on the flight.

and they took off about a 1/2 hour ago... I heard them take off around 830am...


and no they are NOT in Flight aware.... no recon aircraft are in flight aware...

ALL 53rd WRS aircraft have the smirf.
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#17 Postby KWT » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:14 am

They left before then Pojo they are at 76W already, left around 12z. Probably got another 2hrs before the real action gets going.
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#18 Postby pojo » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:18 am

KWT wrote:They left before then Pojo they are at 76W already, left around 12z. Probably got another 2hrs before the real action gets going.


nevermind.
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#19 Postby Chacor » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:23 am

Can anyone kindly remind me of the reductions from FL winds to sfc winds at the different levels? I think it was something like .75? I also recall that there are different reductions for different flight levels.
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#20 Postby Thunder44 » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:31 am

Chacor wrote:Can anyone kindly remind me of the reductions from FL winds to sfc winds at the different levels? I think it was something like .75? I also recall that there are different reductions for different flight levels.


It's always sticked in TA forum:


viewtopic.php?f=29&t=85603
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