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#4081 Postby BensonTCwatcher » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:24 pm

they don't adust track forecast at intermediate advisories
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#4082 Postby Lowpressure » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:25 pm

BensonTCwatcher wrote:I think this comes in just S of MB at this point. the blob of convection NE of the CDO is lower pressure and the shape looks like the turn is coming soon.

So is the coastline.
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#4083 Postby Chilly_Water » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:28 pm

BensonTCwatcher wrote:sure looks like Charleston. I bet they weren't ready for this. This will also put higher winds inland.

Charleston's ready. Everything closed early. Everyone used the city's "storm" free parking and put their cars in decks. I drove down King St.(downtown) earlier and the sand bags are out in front of every door in areas that flood even without such a large storm as Hanna. There are 6 electric repair trucks parked right around the corner from my house in Mt. Pleasant off Coleman Blvd.

We learned our lesson from Hugo and subsequent storms. Evacuating may suck. (Took me 18hrs to get from here to Atlanta for Hurricane Floyd under Gov. Hodges' hairbrainedness :grr: ) But we are ready.
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#4084 Postby jabber » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:30 pm

BensonTCwatcher wrote:they don't adust track forecast at intermediate advisories



I know but they should and have hinted of a change
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Re: ATL HANNA: Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4085 Postby BensonTCwatcher » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:35 pm

by shape I mean flattening NE to SW a bit. Also an eyewall may be trying to form,2 frames so far,but maybe

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-wv.html
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#4086 Postby BensonTCwatcher » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:38 pm

Chilly_Water wrote:
BensonTCwatcher wrote:sure looks like Charleston. I bet they weren't ready for this. This will also put higher winds inland.

Charleston's ready. Everything closed early. Everyone used the city's "storm" free parking and put their cars in decks. I drove down King St.(downtown) earlier and the sand bags are out in front of every door in areas that flood even without such a large storm as Hanna. There are 6 electric repair trucks parked right around the corner from my house in Mt. Pleasant off Coleman Blvd.

We learned our lesson from Hugo and subsequent storms. Evacuating may suck. (Took me 18hrs to get from here to Atlanta for Hurricane Floyd under Gov. Hodges' hairbrainedness :grr: ) But we are ready.



good deal, sometimes in NC we get a little complacent like "if it's a Cat 2 I'll take action"
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#4087 Postby HurricaneRobert » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:53 pm

Chilly_Water wrote:We learned our lesson from Hugo and subsequent storms. Evacuating may suck. (Took me 18hrs to get from here to Atlanta for Hurricane Floyd under Gov. Hodges' hairbrainedness :grr: ) But we are ready.


It could've been worse. Governor Goodhair waited a day after the evacuation in Galveston to start contraflow. If Rita hadn't turned, thousands of people would've been stranded on the highway during a storm. :(
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#4088 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:01 pm

Not a slam on the meteorology, as I can't compete, but if your won discussions say a 60 knot TS and a 65 knot Cat 1 have similar damage potential, why not post hurricane warnings if predicting a 55 or 60 knot storm if their own discussion says some strengthening is possible?
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#4089 Postby Bane » Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:06 pm

i don't understand why they haven'y put up a hurricane warning either. they did it with ernesto in 2006 and he never reached hurricane strength.
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#4090 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:06 pm

I still don't see any basis by Recon for upgrading to a hurricane - 80 kt FL winds are needed to support hurricane intensity.
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#4091 Postby tallywx » Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:07 pm

Chilly_Water wrote:We learned our lesson from Hugo and subsequent storms. Evacuating may suck. (Took me 18hrs to get from here to Atlanta for Hurricane Floyd under Gov. Hodges' hairbrainedness :grr: ) But we are ready.


psst...secret for next time. take the back roads. like alt 17 or hwy 64 up through givhans ferry and "cross-country" through the SC farmland. across to aiken, sc...then I-20 the rest of the way.
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#4092 Postby BensonTCwatcher » Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:07 pm

Well if the next sat update looks like the last 2 I am calling it a cane. Also, it always cracks me up when we have a landfalling hurricane tonight, nobody is posting.
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#4093 Postby Chacor » Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:07 pm

BBC Radio Five Live reports 495 deaths in Gonaïves, Haiti ALONE from Hanna.
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#4094 Postby jabber » Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:09 pm

BensonTCwatcher wrote:Well if the next sat update looks like the last 2 I am calling it a cane. Also, it always cracks me up when we have a landfalling hurricane tonight, nobody is posting.



Yeah I guess when its not a cat 4 in your direction.... maybe everyone is looking at IKE.
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#4095 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:09 pm

BensonTCwatcher wrote:Well if the next sat update looks like the last 2 I am calling it a cane. Also, it always cracks me up when we have a landfalling hurricane tonight, nobody is posting.


A Cat 4 in EYW does have the 'sexy' factor. If we get a model showing Ike going anywhere near Texas at 0Z, it'll be Hanna who? Never mind, besides the Carolinas, the Northeast Megalopolis will probably have tropical storm conditions tomorrow.
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#4096 Postby jabber » Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:10 pm

Ed Mahmoud wrote:
BensonTCwatcher wrote:Well if the next sat update looks like the last 2 I am calling it a cane. Also, it always cracks me up when we have a landfalling hurricane tonight, nobody is posting.


A Cat 4 in EYW does have the 'sexy' factor. If we get a model showing Ike going anywhere near Texas at 0Z, it'll be Hanna who? Never mind, besides the Carolinas, the Northeast Megalopolis will probably have tropical storm conditions tomorrow.


Right now conditions in Raleigh are dead calm winds and zero rain.
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#4097 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:13 pm

Chacor wrote:BBC Radio Five Live reports 495 deaths in Gonaïves, Haiti ALONE from Hanna.


Confirmed that (so far) 529 are dead in Haiti, of which 495 in Gonaives. http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N05425158.htm
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Re: ATL HANNA: Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4098 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:14 pm

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEWPORT/MOREHEAD CITY NC
955 PM EDT FRI SEP 5 2008

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NEWPORT HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
DUPLIN COUNTY IN EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF WARSAW...

* UNTIL 1030 PM EDT

* AT 950 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO NEAR CYPRESS
CREEK...OR ABOUT 12 MILES WEST OF HALF MOON...MOVING NORTHWEST AT
35 MPH.

* THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
CHINQUAPIN BY 1000 PM EDT...
BEULAVILLE BY 1010 PM EDT...
KENANSVILLE BY 1025 PM EDT...
WARSAW BY 1030 PM EDT...


BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEWPORT/MOREHEAD CITY NC
954 PM EDT FRI SEP 5 2008

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NEWPORT HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
SOUTHWESTERN ONSLOW COUNTY IN EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA...
THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF NEW RIVER AIR STATION...

* UNTIL 1030 PM EDT

* AT 950 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO NEAR VERONA...OR
ABOUT 6 MILES SOUTHWEST OF NEW RIVER AIR STATION...MOVING NORTHWEST
AT 40 MPH.

* THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
HAWS RUN BY 1000 PM EDT...
CATHERINE LAKE BY 1005 PM EDT...
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#4099 Postby tallywx » Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:15 pm

BensonTCwatcher wrote:Well if the next sat update looks like the last 2 I am calling it a cane. Also, it always cracks me up when we have a landfalling hurricane tonight, nobody is posting.


and it's not just an intensity thing either. I recall from my FL days how this board used to go wild when a 70 mph tropical storm was closing in down there. I feel like NC is the black sheep of tropical interest, for whatever reason.
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#4100 Postby Chilly_Water » Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:16 pm

tallywx wrote:
Chilly_Water wrote:We learned our lesson from Hugo and subsequent storms. Evacuating may suck. (Took me 18hrs to get from here to Atlanta for Hurricane Floyd under Gov. Hodges' hairbrainedness :grr: ) But we are ready.


psst...secret for next time. take the back roads. like alt 17 or hwy 64 up through givhans ferry and "cross-country" through the SC farmland. across to aiken, sc...then I-20 the rest of the way.

I've already got a rockin' evac programmed into my gps. Not one single major road and all very very very back streets...like through out-of-the-way neighborhoods and such. Even have a return programmed so I don't hit a single bridge that may be closed. :D
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