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ATL HANNA: Models Discussion

#1 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:52 pm

WHXX01 KWBC 220046
CHGHUR
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
0046 UTC FRI AUG 22 2008

DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.

ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL952008) 20080822 0000 UTC

...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS. .. ...36 HRS...
080822 0000 080822 1200 080823 0000 080823 1200

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 11.1N 36.4W 12.1N 37.6W 13.3N 39.1W 14.4N 41.4W
BAMD 11.1N 36.4W 12.0N 38.9W 13.1N 41.3W 13.9N 43.7W
BAMM 11.1N 36.4W 12.3N 38.5W 13.4N 40.6W 14.3N 42.8W
LBAR 11.1N 36.4W 12.1N 39.5W 13.2N 42.9W 14.0N 46.2W
SHIP 20KTS 25KTS 31KTS 39KTS
DSHP 20KTS 25KTS 31KTS 39KTS

...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS. .. ..120 HRS...
080824 0000 080825 0000 080826 0000 080827 0000

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 15.6N 44.1W 18.3N 50.0W 20.9N 54.7W 23.2N 58.1W
BAMD 14.4N 45.8W 15.0N 50.2W 15.2N 54.7W 14.6N 58.7W
BAMM 15.1N 44.9W 16.2N 49.7W 16.9N 54.4W 16.5N 58.8W
LBAR 14.6N 49.3W 15.5N 54.1W 15.3N 56.9W 13.5N 59.0W
SHIP 47KTS 57KTS 63KTS 67KTS
DSHP 47KTS 57KTS 63KTS 67KTS

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 11.1N LONCUR = 36.4W DIRCUR = 280DEG SPDCUR = 15KT
LATM12 = 10.6N LONM12 = 33.5W DIRM12 = 276DEG SPDM12 = 15KT
LATM24 = 10.4N LONM24 = 30.6W
WNDCUR = 20KT RMAXWD = 45NM WNDM12 = 20KT
CENPRS = 1009MB OUTPRS = 1010MB OUTRAD = 150NM SDEPTH = M
RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM
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Re: ATL: Invest 95L Model Runs=First model guidance plots

#3 Postby cycloneye » Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:27 pm

First SHIP forecast for 95L. No strong shear for 95L.

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         *   ATLANTIC SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST       *
                    *        GOES/OHC INPUT INCLUDED            *
                    *      INVEST  AL952008  08/22/08  00 UTC   *

TIME (HR)          0     6    12    18    24    36    48    60    72    84    96   108   120
V (KT) NO LAND    20    22    25    28    31    39    47    53    57    60    63    67    67
V (KT) LAND       20    22    25    28    31    39    47    53    57    60    63    67    67
V (KT) LGE mod    20    21    21    22    23    26    29    32    34    36    39    43    49

SHEAR (KTS)       12    11    10    17    12    14    15    19    17    16     8    10     8
SHEAR DIR         95   108    74   100   104    48    42    13    15    18   348   335   280
SST (C)         28.3  28.2  28.1  27.9  27.7  27.2  27.3  27.6  27.6  27.8  28.1  28.3  28.4
POT. INT. (KT)   142   140   139   136   133   127   128   132   132   134   138   141   143
ADJ. POT. INT.   145   141   139   134   131   123   124   128   128   129   132   135   137
200 MB T (C)   -53.7 -54.0 -53.9 -53.4 -53.5 -54.1 -53.6 -54.0 -53.8 -54.0 -54.0 -54.1 -54.0
TH_E DEV (C)       8     9     8     8     9     9     9     9    10    10    10    10    10
700-500 MB RH     70    67    70    70    70    69    64    60    62    59    58    59    56
GFS VTEX (KT)      7     6     7     7  LOST  LOST  LOST  LOST  LOST  LOST  LOST  LOST  LOST
850 MB ENV VOR    66    60    65    52    40    28     2   -17   -30   -40   -41   -34   -23
200 MB DIV        60    71    90    45    33    44    40     9    -6    -2   -18    -1   -13
LAND (KM)       1606  1646  1668  1611  1563  1473  1401  1317  1257  1148   983   818   676
LAT (DEG N)     11.1  11.7  12.3  12.9  13.4  14.3  15.1  15.7  16.2  16.6  16.9  16.8  16.5
LONG(DEG W)     36.4  37.5  38.5  39.6  40.6  42.8  44.9  47.3  49.7  52.2  54.4  56.6  58.8
STM SPEED (KT)    13    12    12    12    11    11    11    12    12    11    11    11    11
HEAT CONTENT      21    21    20    20    18    19    18    29    46    49    63    60    61

  FORECAST TRACK FROM BAMM      INITIAL HEADING/SPEED (DEG/KT):280/ 15      CX,CY: -14/  3
  T-12 MAX WIND:  20            PRESSURE OF STEERING LEVEL (MB):  477  (MEAN=625)
  GOES IR BRIGHTNESS TEMP. STD DEV. 100-300 KM RAD:  18.4 (MEAN=20.0)
  % GOES IR PIXELS WITH T < -20 C    50-200 KM RAD:   9.0 (MEAN=68.6)

                        INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO INTENSITY CHANGE
                         6   12   18   24   36   48   60   72   84   96  108  120
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  SAMPLE MEAN CHANGE     1.   2.   3.   4.   6.   8.   9.  10.  11.  12.  12.  13.
  SST POTENTIAL          0.   0.   0.   1.   4.  10.  17.  22.  27.  31.  34.  37.
  VERTICAL SHEAR         1.   2.   3.   4.   5.   4.   2.   0.  -3.  -3.  -2.  -1.
  PERSISTENCE            0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.   0.   0.
  200/250 MB TEMP.       0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   1.   1.   1.   1.   2.   2.
  THETA_E EXCESS         0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -2.  -2.  -3.  -3.  -3.  -3.
  700-500 MB RH          0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -2.
  GFS VORTEX TENDENCY    0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -2.  -2.  -2.
  850 MB ENV VORTICITY   0.   1.   1.   1.   1.   1.   0.   0.  -1.  -2.  -2.  -3.
  200 MB DIVERGENCE      0.   1.   1.   2.   2.   3.   3.   3.   2.   1.   1.   0.
  ZONAL STORM MOTION     0.   0.   1.   1.   2.   2.   3.   4.   4.   5.   6.   6.
  STEERING LEVEL PRES    0.   1.   1.   1.   2.   2.   2.   3.   4.   3.   3.   2.
  DAYS FROM CLIM. PEAK   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  SUB-TOTAL CHANGE       2.   5.   8.  11.  19.  27.  33.  37.  40.  43.  47.  50.

  SATELLITE ADJUSTMENTS ----------------------------------------------------------
  MEAN ADJUSTMENT        0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -2.
  GOES IR STD DEV        1.   2.   3.   3.   3.   2.   2.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.
  GOES IR PIXEL COUNT   -1.  -2.  -2.  -2.  -2.  -2.  -1.   1.   3.   3.   3.   0.
  OCEAN HEAT CONTENT     0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  TOTAL ADJUSTMENT       0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.  -2.
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  TOTAL CHANGE (KT)      2.   5.   8.  11.  19.  27.  33.  37.  40.  43.  47.  47.

   ** 2008 ATLANTIC RI INDEX AL952008     INVEST 08/22/08  00 UTC **
           ( 25 KT OR MORE MAX WIND INCREASE IN NEXT 24 HR)
 
 12 HR PERSISTENCE (KT):   0.0 Range:-45.0 to  30.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.6/  1.1
 850-200 MB SHEAR (KT) :  12.4 Range: 35.1 to   3.2 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.7/  1.1
 D200 (10**7s-1)       :  59.8 Range:-20.0 to 149.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.5/  0.7
 POT = MPI-VMAX (KT)   : 117.8 Range: 25.1 to 130.7 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.9/  1.0
 850-700 MB REL HUM (%):  81.4 Range: 56.0 to  88.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.8/  0.3
 % area w/pixels <-30 C:   4.0 Range: 17.0 to 100.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.0/  0.0
 STD DEV OF IR BR TEMP :  10.0 Range: 35.1 to   3.2 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.8/  1.0
 Heat content (KJ/cm2) :  20.0 Range:  0.0 to 132.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.2/  0.0
 
 Prob of RI for 25 kt RI threshold=     4% is   0.3 times the sample mean(12.3%)
 Prob of RI for 30 kt RI threshold=     3% is   0.3 times the sample mean( 7.8%)
 Prob of RI for 35 kt RI threshold=     1% is   0.3 times the sample mean( 4.5%)

   ##         ANNULAR HURRICANE INDEX (AHI) AL952008     INVEST 08/22/08  00 UTC         ##
   ## STORM NOT ANNULAR, SCREENING STEP FAILED, NPASS=6 NFAIL=1                          ##
   ## AHI=  0   (AHI OF 100 IS BEST FIT TO ANN. STRUC., 1 IS MARGINAL, 0 IS NOT ANNULAR) ##
   ##     ANNULAR INDEX RAN NORMALLY         
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#4 Postby Praxus » Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:48 pm

What a classic cape verde season...
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Re: ATL: Invest 95L Model Runs

#5 Postby ROCK » Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:52 pm

will be interesting to see the 0z GFS run on this. The EURO seems to be weakening the ridge at day 10 allowing for the turn up the EC......but that could change of course...
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Re: ATL: Invest 95L Model Runs

#6 Postby LaBreeze » Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:09 pm

Interesting to see what this one does since it is so low. Let's hope it's just a storm to watch and not to experience.
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Re: ATL: Invest 95L Model Runs

#7 Postby Hurricaneman » Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:28 am

ROCK wrote:will be interesting to see the 0z GFS run on this. The EURO seems to be weakening the ridge at day 10 allowing for the turn up the EC......but that could change of course...


The Euro track changed to the eastern seaboard from the previous 3 runs that progged it into the gulf and Im pretty sure that will change again
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#8 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:33 am

746
WHXX01 KWBC 220800
CHGHUR
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
0800 UTC FRI AUG 22 2008

DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.

ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL952008) 20080822 0600 UTC

...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS. .. ...36 HRS...
080822 0600 080822 1800 080823 0600 080823 1800

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 12.7N 39.0W 13.6N 40.4W 14.7N 42.1W 16.2N 44.3W
BAMD 12.7N 39.0W 13.6N 41.7W 14.4N 44.2W 15.0N 46.5W
BAMM 12.7N 39.0W 13.8N 41.1W 14.6N 43.3W 15.7N 45.5W
LBAR 12.7N 39.0W 13.8N 42.1W 14.9N 45.3W 15.7N 48.6W
SHIP 20KTS 26KTS 33KTS 41KTS
DSHP 20KTS 26KTS 33KTS 41KTS

...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS. .. ..120 HRS...
080824 0600 080825 0600 080826 0600 080827 0600

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 17.4N 46.8W 20.2N 51.7W 22.4N 55.4W 24.7N 58.5W
BAMD 15.3N 48.6W 15.6N 52.8W 15.7N 56.4W 15.4N 59.7W
BAMM 16.4N 47.4W 17.5N 51.5W 18.3N 55.1W 18.8N 58.6W
LBAR 16.2N 51.6W 16.6N 56.0W 15.9N 58.7W 13.2N 60.1W
SHIP 49KTS 61KTS 70KTS 72KTS
DSHP 49KTS 61KTS 70KTS 72KTS

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 12.7N LONCUR = 39.0W DIRCUR = 290DEG SPDCUR = 16KT
LATM12 = 11.7N LONM12 = 35.7W DIRM12 = 286DEG SPDM12 = 16KT
LATM24 = 10.8N LONM24 = 32.6W
WNDCUR = 20KT RMAXWD = 60NM WNDM12 = 20KT
CENPRS = 1009MB OUTPRS = 1011MB OUTRAD = 180NM SDEPTH = M
RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM

$$
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Re: ATL: Invest 95L Model Runs

#9 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:34 am

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                    *   ATLANTIC SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST       *
                    *        GOES/OHC INPUT INCLUDED            *
                    *      INVEST  AL952008  08/22/08  06 UTC   *

TIME (HR)          0     6    12    18    24    36    48    60    72    84    96   108   120
V (KT) NO LAND    20    22    26    29    33    41    49    55    61    67    70    72    72
V (KT) LAND       20    22    26    29    33    41    49    55    61    67    70    72    72
V (KT) LGE mod    20    21    22    23    24    28    32    36    39    44    50    56    63

SHEAR (KTS)       11     8    13     8     4    13    14    17    11     7    10    11    13
SHEAR DIR        107    57   124   131    53    40    23    23    10     2   324   346   295
SST (C)         28.0  27.8  27.5  27.3  27.2  27.3  27.4  27.5  27.6  27.8  28.1  28.3  28.4
POT. INT. (KT)   138   135   131   128   127   128   129   130   131   134   138   140   142
ADJ. POT. INT.   140   133   127   125   124   123   122   124   123   125   128   130   132
200 MB T (C)   -53.8 -53.9 -53.5 -53.7 -54.0 -53.6 -53.9 -53.7 -53.9 -53.7 -54.0 -54.0 -54.4
TH_E DEV (C)       9     9     9     9     9     9     9     9     9     9    10     9    10
700-500 MB RH     65    63    64    65    65    65    65    63    63    66    61    62    55
GFS VTEX (KT)      6     7  LOST  LOST  LOST  LOST  LOST  LOST  LOST  LOST  LOST  LOST  LOST
850 MB ENV VOR    82    82    65    53    32    21     5   -11   -15   -23   -18   -14    -2
200 MB DIV        51    74    40    33    39    39    14     7    14    35    20     2    -1
LAND (KM)       1649  1597  1554  1506  1466  1416  1382  1351  1265  1151  1047   938   750
LAT (DEG N)     12.7  13.3  13.8  14.2  14.6  15.7  16.4  17.0  17.5  18.0  18.3  18.6  18.8
LONG(DEG W)     39.0  40.1  41.1  42.2  43.3  45.5  47.4  49.4  51.5  53.3  55.1  56.8  58.6
STM SPEED (KT)    14    12    11    11    12    11    10    10     9     9     9     8     9
HEAT CONTENT      21    18    18    18    18    20    29    38    43    49    51    54    61

  FORECAST TRACK FROM BAMM      INITIAL HEADING/SPEED (DEG/KT):290/ 16      CX,CY: -14/  5
  T-12 MAX WIND:  20            PRESSURE OF STEERING LEVEL (MB):  425  (MEAN=625)
  GOES IR BRIGHTNESS TEMP. STD DEV. 100-300 KM RAD:  15.7 (MEAN=20.0)
  % GOES IR PIXELS WITH T < -20 C    50-200 KM RAD:   3.0 (MEAN=68.6)

                        INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO INTENSITY CHANGE
                         6   12   18   24   36   48   60   72   84   96  108  120
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  SAMPLE MEAN CHANGE     1.   2.   3.   4.   6.   8.   9.  10.  11.  12.  12.  13.
  SST POTENTIAL          0.   0.   0.   1.   4.   9.  15.  21.  26.  29.  32.  35.
  VERTICAL SHEAR         1.   2.   4.   5.   6.   6.   5.   4.   4.   4.   3.   3.
  PERSISTENCE            0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.   0.   0.
  200/250 MB TEMP.       0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   1.   1.   1.   1.   2.   2.
  THETA_E EXCESS         0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -2.  -3.  -3.  -4.  -4.
  700-500 MB RH          0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -2.
  GFS VORTEX TENDENCY    0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.
  850 MB ENV VORTICITY   0.   1.   1.   1.   1.   1.   1.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -2.
  200 MB DIVERGENCE      0.   1.   1.   1.   1.   2.   1.   1.   1.   1.   1.   0.
  ZONAL STORM MOTION     0.   0.   1.   1.   2.   3.   3.   4.   4.   5.   6.   6.
  STEERING LEVEL PRES    0.   1.   1.   2.   3.   3.   3.   5.   5.   4.   4.   3.
  DAYS FROM CLIM. PEAK   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  SUB-TOTAL CHANGE       3.   6.   9.  13.  21.  29.  35.  41.  47.  50.  52.  54.

  SATELLITE ADJUSTMENTS ----------------------------------------------------------
  MEAN ADJUSTMENT        0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -2.
  GOES IR STD DEV        1.   2.   3.   3.   3.   2.   2.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.
  GOES IR PIXEL COUNT   -1.  -2.  -2.  -3.  -2.  -2.  -1.   1.   3.   3.   3.   0.
  OCEAN HEAT CONTENT     0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  TOTAL ADJUSTMENT       0.   0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.  -2.
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  TOTAL CHANGE (KT)      2.   6.   9.  13.  21.  29.  35.  41.  47.  50.  52.  52.

   ** 2008 ATLANTIC RI INDEX AL952008     INVEST 08/22/08  06 UTC **
           ( 25 KT OR MORE MAX WIND INCREASE IN NEXT 24 HR)
 
 12 HR PERSISTENCE (KT):   0.0 Range:-45.0 to  30.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.6/  1.1
 850-200 MB SHEAR (KT) :   8.9 Range: 35.1 to   3.2 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.8/  1.3
 D200 (10**7s-1)       :  47.4 Range:-20.0 to 149.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.4/  0.6
 POT = MPI-VMAX (KT)   : 109.6 Range: 25.1 to 130.7 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.8/  0.9
 850-700 MB REL HUM (%):  78.6 Range: 56.0 to  88.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.7/  0.3
 % area w/pixels <-30 C:   1.0 Range: 17.0 to 100.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.0/  0.0
 STD DEV OF IR BR TEMP :   9.2 Range: 35.1 to   3.2 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.8/  1.1
 Heat content (KJ/cm2) :  18.6 Range:  0.0 to 132.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.1/  0.0
 
 Prob of RI for 25 kt RI threshold=     4% is   0.3 times the sample mean(12.3%)
 Prob of RI for 30 kt RI threshold=     3% is   0.3 times the sample mean( 7.8%)
 Prob of RI for 35 kt RI threshold=     1% is   0.3 times the sample mean( 4.5%)

   ##         ANNULAR HURRICANE INDEX (AHI) AL952008     INVEST 08/22/08  06 UTC         ##
   ## STORM NOT ANNULAR, SCREENING STEP FAILED, NPASS=6 NFAIL=1                          ##
   ## AHI=  0   (AHI OF 100 IS BEST FIT TO ANN. STRUC., 1 IS MARGINAL, 0 IS NOT ANNULAR) ##
   ##     ANNULAR INDEX RAN NORMALLY             
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Re: ATL: Invest 95L Model Runs

#10 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:36 am

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#11 Postby KWT » Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:37 am

Well there is once again some light shear but not really enough to stop slow development from occuring.

Track looks quite tough as there could be interactions with any other burst in the ITCZ. I think the models idea of this one going further north of 94L is likely but to what degree is unclear right now.
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Re: ATL: Invest 95L Model Runs

#12 Postby abajan » Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:44 am

There seems to be some confusion as to which area is 95L. Some of the models think it's one area while others think it's the other!

Check this out: http://my.sfwmd.gov/sfwmd/common/images ... orm_95.gif

EDIT: Okay, after checking the times (along the top of the graphic) I think I've figured out what happened. 95L is the one to the north. It's just that the models that initialized to the south are old and haven't been updated as yet.
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Re: ATL: Invest 95L Model Runs

#13 Postby RL3AO » Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:46 am

abajan wrote:There seems to be some confusion as to which area is 95L. Some of the models think it's one area while others think it's the other!

Check this out: http://my.sfwmd.gov/sfwmd/common/images ... orm_95.gif


It will get fixed and changed to the northern area on the next run.
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Re: ATL: Invest 95L Model Runs

#14 Postby Sanibel » Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:54 am

The Floater currently saying "95L" is actually over the little disturbance some of us were seeing on 'Talkin Tropics' last night. It was at 18N-35W but is under a fast ridge and is now nearer to 18N-40W this morning. I don't know what happened to the deep convection wave we were calling 95L last night on 'Active Storms'.
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Re: Invest 95L Model Runs

#15 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:53 am

WHXX01 KWBC 231249
CHGHUR
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1249 UTC SAT AUG 23 2008

DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.

ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL952008) 20080823 1200 UTC

...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS. .. ...36 HRS...
080823 1200 080824 0000 080824 1200 080825 0000

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 19.1N 47.7W 19.8N 51.5W 20.7N 54.9W 21.3N 57.7W
BAMD 19.1N 47.7W 19.8N 50.5W 20.2N 53.1W 20.7N 55.4W
BAMM 19.1N 47.7W 19.9N 50.7W 20.4N 53.5W 21.0N 56.0W
LBAR 19.1N 47.7W 19.9N 51.1W 20.6N 54.4W 20.9N 57.3W
SHIP 25KTS 30KTS 36KTS 44KTS
DSHP 25KTS 30KTS 36KTS 44KTS

...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS. .. ..120 HRS...
080825 1200 080826 1200 080827 1200 080828 1200

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 22.0N 60.2W 22.8N 63.6W 22.4N 67.1W 21.8N 71.4W
BAMD 21.2N 57.2W 22.4N 59.4W 23.0N 61.5W 23.8N 64.6W
BAMM 21.6N 58.1W 22.5N 60.8W 22.5N 63.6W 23.0N 67.4W
LBAR 21.3N 59.9W 21.5N 63.3W 20.6N 67.0W 20.4N 71.3W
SHIP 53KTS 67KTS 77KTS 85KTS
DSHP 53KTS 67KTS 77KTS 85KTS

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 19.1N LONCUR = 47.7W DIRCUR = 280DEG SPDCUR = 20KT
LATM12 = 18.3N LONM12 = 43.7W DIRM12 = 283DEG SPDM12 = 20KT
LATM24 = 17.6N LONM24 = 39.5W
WNDCUR = 25KT RMAXWD = 60NM WNDM12 = 25KT
CENPRS = 1014MB OUTPRS = 1015MB OUTRAD = 120NM SDEPTH = M
RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM

$$
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Re: Invest 95L Model Runs

#16 Postby SouthFLTropics » Sat Aug 23, 2008 8:39 am

Based on the early models it appears that 95L may become more of a threat to FL and/or the East Coast than 94L. JMO, and I know it's early and things will change but it appears that those models are pointing right at us.

BTW, does anybody have a link to the GFS runs for 95L?

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Re: Invest 95L Model Runs

#17 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:08 am

SouthFLTropics wrote:Based on the early models it appears that 95L may become more of a threat to FL and/or the East Coast than 94L.

SFT


I agree, that XTRP model looks ominous! :eek: :lol: j/k

Seriously, we need to keep an eye on it as it moves westward.
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#18 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:08 am

it looks like if 95L develops its going westbound for a while based on the models.

Interesting, unfortunately I think we have to watch this one. Bear watch activated.
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#19 Postby fci » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:18 am

I think 95L is another example of an Invest that is way too far north to be an issue for South Florida.

We had a similar situation last year; I want to say with one of the 92L's; the one that was in a simlar position the first week of September.

Many cite Andrew as being out by 20/50 and it came due west but that is far for the "norm".

I think that 95L, if it develops; will not be a South Florida issue and would only be a Carolina's issue and that it most likely would be a "fish".

That is IF it develops which I find unlikely.

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Re: Invest 95L Model Runs

#20 Postby Sanibel » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:26 am

94L and 95L will be influences on each other if both form.
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