WPAC JANGMI: Tropical Storm - Discussion

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#141 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Sep 27, 2008 5:36 pm

MiamiensisWx wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:It appears the storm has peaked (thankfully, but probably too late).

Huh? A large Cat 2/3/4 would still produce extensive to severe wind damage, and even TS/Category 1 systems have produced copious precipitation over the island...

I would argue that a large TC (experiencing an ERC and corresponding increase in wind radii) could be worse than a small, narrow, intense TC. Most TC related deaths in Taiwan are related to flooding from heavy precipitation.


Yes you are right, that is why I said too late. But a storm with 145-150 kt winds would be catastrophic no matter what.
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#142 Postby Derek Ortt » Sat Sep 27, 2008 5:51 pm

remember where this thing is hitting

wind damage in Taiwan is not as bad as it is here. We have seen that many times (and has been discussed many times).

I'd expect there to be very serious flooding inland, however. Could easily get 20-30 inches of rain in the mountains
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#143 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Sep 27, 2008 5:58 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:remember where this thing is hitting

wind damage in Taiwan is not as bad as it is here. We have seen that many times (and has been discussed many times).

I'd expect there to be very serious flooding inland, however. Could easily get 20-30 inches of rain in the mountains


You're right, and I don't think Taiwan is very prone to storm surge either. Category 5 storms are not exceptional in the Western Pacific (few years pass without them) so they have to be built for extreme winds there.
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#144 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:06 pm

27/2030 UTC 22.1N 123.5E T6.0/7.0 JANGMI -- West Pacific Ocean

Starting to weaken.
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#145 Postby RL3AO » Sat Sep 27, 2008 7:26 pm

From MODIS

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From 0445 UTC Friday
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#146 Postby Cyclenall » Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:25 pm

Best looking tropical cyclone of 2008. It's great that recon got to fly into this thing :D .
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#147 Postby Chacor » Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:45 pm

Radar from southern Japan...
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#148 Postby Ptarmigan » Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:10 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:remember where this thing is hitting

wind damage in Taiwan is not as bad as it is here. We have seen that many times (and has been discussed many times).

I'd expect there to be very serious flooding inland, however. Could easily get 20-30 inches of rain in the mountains


Typhoons in Taiwan can dump as much 50 inches of rain. Typhoon Nari in 2001 dumped nearly 60 inches of rain.
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#149 Postby Chacor » Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:16 pm

Sinlaku left over 60 inches of storm total rainfall.
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#150 Postby Chacor » Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:27 am

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Re: WPAC JANGMI - Typhoon: Discussion

#151 Postby Typhoon Hunter » Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:01 am

Hualien harbour at its most beautiful:

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#152 Postby Chacor » Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:00 am

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#153 Postby Chacor » Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:08 am

Loop every 20 minutes from 9:30 am Japan time (0030 UTC) this morning until 4:30 pm Japan time (0730 UTC) plus landfall at 4:40 pm:

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#154 Postby HurricaneBill » Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:15 am

I'm surprised JTWC never upgraded Jangmi to Category 5 status. Maybe they will in the post-season.
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Re: WPAC JANGMI - Typhoon: Discussion

#155 Postby P.K. » Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:37 am

Message from Typhoon Hunter - "Lot of lightning here 22km north of Hualien!"
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#156 Postby Aslkahuna » Sun Sep 28, 2008 4:16 am

RCTP recently reported NNE winds of 69mph gusting to 104 mph.

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#157 Postby Crostorm » Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:25 am

TAIPEI (AP): Typhoon Jangmi lashed Taiwan with torrential rains and powerful winds on Sunday, causing widespread flooding, shutting down offices and forcing the cancellation of international flights.

Jangmi _ the fourth and most powerful typhoon to hit the island this year _ made landfall in Ilan county in northeastern Taiwan at mid afternoon Sunday, the Central Weather Bureau said.

Power was cut to 86,000 households as the area was hit by gusts of up to 140 miles (227 kilometers) per hour, the highest level the bureau's equipment can measure, it said.

ETTV Cable News reported the strong winds overturned a bus on a highway in Ilan, injuring three passengers.

The usually bustling capital of Taipei was eerily quiet with only a few cars on streets buffeted by the stormy weather. Trees were uprooted and building scaffolding blown off.

The Disaster Relief Center said dozens of villagers were evacuated from the scenic mountain resort of Lushan in central Taiwan, where all 20 hotels were ordered closed. The area was badly damaged when Typhoon Sinlaku hit two weeks ago, with massive mudslides destroying at least three hotels.

Hundreds of fishing boats sheltered at ports, and domestic flights and rail services were canceled, television stations reported.

Taiwan's China Airlines and EVA Airways said several flights to Asia were canceled or rescheduled for Monday. China's Southern and Hainan Airlines canceled their flights to the island from Beijing and Shanghai.

The Disaster Relief Center said authorities were pumping flood waters from many low-lying areas and were closely monitoring water levels in rivers, particularly at 19 major bridges that would be closed if necessary.

The Central Weather Bureau said Jangmi would move northwest toward southern China early Monday but its outer bands would continue to dump heavy rains in Taiwan. Mountainous areas could record up to 40 inches (1,000 millimeters) of rain in the two-day period, the bureau said.

Typhoons frequently hit Taiwan between July and October, causing flash floods and deadly landslides. Typhoon Sinlaku killed 12 people and left 10 others missing
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Re: WPAC JANGMI - Typhoon: Discussion

#158 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:39 am

Hard to tell with the eye filling on landfall, but is Jangmi bending Southwest?
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Re: WPAC JANGMI - Typhoon: Discussion

#159 Postby Sanibel » Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:22 am

Like that typhoon in the Phillipines another weird tracker. Looks like it veered slightly S of W on landfall.
Ripped right through the center of Taiwan.
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Re: WPAC JANGMI - Typhoon: Discussion

#160 Postby r_u_stuck2 » Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:20 am

I have a friend who is from Nebraska and lives in Taipei. He just reported on another message board that the eye just went over them, he went outside and said several motorscooters were blown over. No loss of power where he is and he is surprised that they have cancelled school tomorrow.
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