ATL: PALOMA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

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Re: ATL: PALOMA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#781 Postby I-wall » Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:09 am

Why do the models take the remnants of Paloma southwest while NOAA says it's going to stall and dissipate off the coast of Cuba? Are the models just confused?
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Re: ATL: PALOMA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#782 Postby Sanibel » Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:11 am

Weak center just over water north of Cuba. Fading sheared energy well east.
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#783 Postby gatorcane » Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:46 am

Can we remove Paloma from "Active Forums?"
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#784 Postby cycloneye » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:26 pm

gatorcane wrote:Can we remove Paloma from "Active Forums?"


We always leave the threads for 24-48 hours after the last advisory is written to let the members make comments before we move the storm threads to the archieve forum.
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Re: ATL: PALOMA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#785 Postby drezee » Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:38 pm

still a nice swirl there!!!
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#786 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:15 am

The remnant circulation of paloma combined with a ridge of high
pressure to the north is producing a tight pressure gradient with strong winds in my location:
http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.ph ... &map.y=155
NE 20 mph Officially in Saint Petersburg right near Tampa Bay.
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#787 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:53 am

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Re: ATL: PALOMA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#788 Postby gatorcane » Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:56 am

Paloma's remnants are heading into an area of much more favorable upper-level winds which are decreasing over the entire NW Caribbean and Western Caribbean Sea.

But fortunately, Paloma has been so damaged its highly unlikely she can regenerate and no models are regenerating her thankfully.
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Re: ATL: PALOMA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#789 Postby Sanibel » Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:05 pm

Not sure if that is a stalling loop or southward movement back into the Caribbean.


Not sure if it has enough to rebound even if it did go back into the Caribbean.
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#790 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:19 pm

It would have to drift well South of Cuba, to get away from hostile shear, per 12Z GFS, and the low level vorticity dissipates long before that happens, also per the 12Z GFS.

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#791 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:32 pm

Something I find interesting, the remnant circulation of Paloma is moving
south of Cuba back into the caribbean sea. Regardless of tropical development, I am
a little bit concerned that once the cold front arrives this Friday, it may baroclinically
enhance the remnant circulation of Paloma and lead to a strong wind/storm event
across the Florida Peninsula. Current national weather forecasts show wind gusts of
30 mph in association with the frontal complex.

This would be like last year- the remnant circulation of Tropical Storm Olga
combined with a cold front and brought wind gusts to 78 mph at Clearwater Beach.
I am going to keep an eye on that circulation. I don't think it will be that strong, but you never know...
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#792 Postby caribepr » Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:35 pm

Grinning here because while Fla people are concerned, I'm watching the loop thinking...hmm. moving this way, air falling down (while against it), still moving this way...hmmm. Keeping an eye on it.

I know that is very technical talk and I'll try to avoid it in the future! 8-)
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#793 Postby gatorcane » Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:44 pm

Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:Something I find interesting, the remnant circulation of Paloma is moving
south of Cuba back into the caribbean sea. Regardless of tropical development, I am
a little bit concerned that once the cold front arrives this Friday, it may baroclinically
enhance the remnant circulation of Paloma and lead to a strong wind/storm event
across the Florida Peninsula. Current national weather forecasts show wind gusts of
30 mph in association with the frontal complex.

This would be like last year- the remnant circulation of Tropical Storm Olga
combined with a cold front and brought wind gusts to 78 mph at Clearwater Beach.
I am going to keep an eye on that circulation. I don't think it will be that strong, but you never know...


No need to be concerned, by the way if I had a microscope I may be able to find the remant Low of Paloma in the image below. By tomorrow at this time it will be completed poofed: :P

Paloma is history and is not going to regenerate or cause any more issues.

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Re: ATL: PALOMA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#794 Postby tolakram » Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:32 pm

Swirl

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#795 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:14 am

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Re: ATL: PALOMA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#796 Postby Cyclenall » Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:42 pm

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1. A WEAK AREA OF LOW PRESSURE...THE REMNANT OF TROPICAL DEPRESSION
PALOMA...IS LOCATED BETWEEN CUBA AND THE CAYMAN ISLANDS AND IS
MOVING WEST-NORTHWESTWARD NEAR 10 MPH. THE ASSOCIATED SHOWER
ACTIVITY IS LIMITED...AND CONDITIONS DO NOT FAVOR RE-DEVELOPMENT OF
THIS SYSTEM.


Can someone explain why the NHC is still giving code yellow for nothing? :lol:
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