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Re: East Coast : INVEST 91L

#101 Postby Thunder44 » Wed May 27, 2009 12:37 pm

Guess I was right after all. The recon was cancelled:

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ABNT20 KNHC 271734
TWOAT
SPECIAL TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
130 PM EDT WED MAY 27 2009

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

THE AREA OF LOW PRESSURE CENTERED ABOUT 75 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF
CAPE HATTERAS NORTH CAROLINA HAS CHANGED LITTLE TODAY. CONDITIONS
ARE NOT FAVORABLE FOR SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT...AND THE OPPORTUNITY
FOR THE SYSTEM TO BECOME A TROPICAL CYCLONE BEFORE REACHING COLDER
OCEAN WATERS IS DIMINISHING. SHOWERS FROM THIS SYSTEM ARE
CURRENTLY AFFECTING COASTAL NORTH CAROLINA. AS THE AREA OF LOW
PRESSURE MOVES TOWARD THE NORTH OR NORTHEAST AT 10-15 MPH...THE
SYSTEM WILL CONTINUE TO BRING SOME SHOWERS TO THE AREA FOR THE
REMAINDER OF TODAY. THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...LESS THAN 30 PERCENT...
OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48
HOURS. THE AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE MISSION SCHEDULED FOR THIS
AFTERNOON HAS BEEN CANCELED. AN ADDITIONAL SPECIAL TROPICAL
WEATHER OUTLOOK WILL BE ISSUED AT 8 PM EDT. SEE LOCAL WEATHER
FORECAST OFFICE PRODUCTS FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THIS SYSTEM.

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FORECASTER LANDSEA/FRANKLIN
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#102 Postby wxman57 » Wed May 27, 2009 12:38 pm

capepoint wrote:should be very near 41036 right now.


Actually, it passed 150 miles east of 41036 and is now about 65 miles SSE of buoy 41025. The buoy has been reporting an easterly wind at 10 kts and 1011.3mb. Buoy 41036 150 miles to the WSW has a NW wind of 5 kts. As Derek said, just a low-level swirl at this point. Development chances slim. Even the Gulf Stream is too cool to support development so far north so early in the season.
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#103 Postby HURAKAN » Wed May 27, 2009 12:39 pm

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Re: Recon : INVEST 91L

#104 Postby Thunder44 » Wed May 27, 2009 12:42 pm

As of latest STWO, this afternoon's flight was cancelled too.
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Re: East Coast : INVEST 91L

#105 Postby wxman57 » Wed May 27, 2009 3:04 pm

Here's a map with surface plots. Just a weak eddy with 5-10 kts around the center:

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Re: East Coast : INVEST 91L

#106 Postby cpdaman » Wed May 27, 2009 3:08 pm

strongest winds are probably on the N'eastern and S'eastern side of the low....no obs there....probably 25 mph.....
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Re: East Coast : INVEST 91L

#107 Postby wxman57 » Wed May 27, 2009 3:39 pm

cpdaman wrote:strongest winds are probably on the N'eastern and S'eastern side of the low....no obs there....probably 25 mph.....


Just got a ship report on the eastern side of the center - Wind about 150 deg at 15 kts. It's in an area of heavier showers, too. Bones is walking up to the microphone...
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#108 Postby HURAKAN » Wed May 27, 2009 4:20 pm

1800Z

AL, 91, 2009052718, , BEST, 0, 344N, 744W, 25, 1008
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Re: East Coast : INVEST 91L

#109 Postby wxman57 » Wed May 27, 2009 6:43 pm

Looks like it's made the turn to the NE. Wind shear is on the increase. Convection is decreasing (if that's possible), and water cooler and cooler. This one's dead...

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#110 Postby Derek Ortt » Wed May 27, 2009 6:45 pm

NEXT INVEST PLEASE!
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Re: East Coast : INVEST 91L

#111 Postby srainhoutx » Wed May 27, 2009 6:47 pm

I bet the complex that came off TX kept some folks hoping today more than 91L. :wink:
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Re: East Coast : INVEST 91L

#112 Postby cycloneye » Wed May 27, 2009 6:51 pm

Bones,you can come now!

253
ABNT20 KNHC 272348
TWOAT
SPECIAL TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
745 PM EDT WED MAY 27 2009

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

SHOWER ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH THE AREA OF LOW PRESSURE CENTERED
ABOUT 90 MILES EAST-SOUTHEAST OF CAPE HATTERAS NORTH CAROLINA IS
DECREASING. THE LOW IS EXPECTED TO MOVE GENERALLY NORTHEASTWARD
AWAY FROM THE COAST AROUND 15 MPH OVER THE NEXT OR SO. CONDITIONS
ARE NOT FAVORABLE FOR SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT...AND THE OPPORTUNITY
FOR THE SYSTEM TO BECOME A TROPICAL CYCLONE BEFORE REACHING COOLER
OCEAN WATERS CONTINUES TO DIMINISH. THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...LESS
THAN 30 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING
THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

NO ADDITIONAL SPECIAL TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOKS ARE ANTICIPATED FOR
THIS SYSTEM. SEE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORECAST OFFICE PRODUCTS
FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

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FORECASTER BERG/PASCH
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#113 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Wed May 27, 2009 6:56 pm

I'm thankful these spin ups are showing up in May instead of August.
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#114 Postby wxman57 » Wed May 27, 2009 6:57 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:NEXT INVEST PLEASE!


I vote that the next invest should be in mid August.
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#115 Postby Derek Ortt » Wed May 27, 2009 8:07 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:NEXT INVEST PLEASE!


I vote that the next invest should be in mid August.


make it mid september
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Re: East Coast : INVEST 91L

#116 Postby Sanibel » Wed May 27, 2009 10:36 pm

Another season with ghost systems early on. Last year had ghost systems and you know what followed.
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#117 Postby HURAKAN » Wed May 27, 2009 10:39 pm

AL, 91, 2009052800, , BEST, 0, 351N, 740W, 25, 1007

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Re: East Coast : INVEST 91L

#118 Postby xironman » Thu May 28, 2009 6:42 am

2009, maybe the year of too little, too late? We are two for two.

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#119 Postby HURAKAN » Thu May 28, 2009 6:48 am

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We need to hear from the NHC.
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#120 Postby capepoint » Thu May 28, 2009 6:51 am

I'll second the motion for the next invest to be in september. All in favor......
Seriously tho....
A question to you pro-mets and experienced amatures....
I read somewhere that it seems that the models did correctly indicate the start-up of these two lows, but I dont know if they are also giving false alarms. I seem to remember last year the models giving several false alarms that never materialized. Could it be that the models are doing better this year, or have I just not been paying much attention.

thanks
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