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Re: ATL : INVEST 93L

#401 Postby Evil Jeremy » Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:37 am

Despite all the shear, you can tell that 93L is really trying to do something at this point. It is really fighting the shear: http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/loop-vis.html
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Re: ATL : MODELS : INVEST 93L

#402 Postby HouTXmetro » Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:44 am

LOL, whats the TCVN model? Needless to say there in nothing to develop. However it something does develop the models are not in agreement.
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#403 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:03 am

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Where's 94L!?!?!?!
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Re: ATL : INVEST 93L

#404 Postby Frank2 » Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:05 am

Perhaps, but the old rule of thumb says that when a system gets completely sheared it might regenerate, but even if it does it will not regain it's original organization - that seems to always be true...

P.S. Last evening some dumb cluck on TWC or elsewhere said that perhaps it might travel around the high to it's east and head towards Florida as a tropical storm - it made me think of my evacuation plan, for the first time this season...

Thoughts like that are about as much fun as having the hives....
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#405 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:08 am

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Looking less and less likely.
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#406 Postby senorpepr » Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:21 am

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NOUS42 KNHC 281600
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1200 PM EDT SUN 28 JUNE 2009
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 29/1100Z TO 30/1100Z JUNE 2009
TCPOD NUMBER.....09-031

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. SUSPECT AREA -- GULF OF MEXICO
FLLGHT ONE -- TEAL 70
A. 29/1800Z
B. AFXXX 01AAA INVEST
C. 29/1600Z
D. 23.0N 90.0W
E. 29/1700Z TO 30/0000Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY: BRGIN 12 HRLY FIXES
AT 30/1500Z IF SYSTEM DEVELOPS.

II. PACIFIC REQUIREMENTS
1. NEGATIVE RECONNAISSANCE REQUIREMENTS.
2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEDING DAY.....NEGATIVE.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 93L

#407 Postby tailgater » Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:23 am

Evil Jeremy wrote:Despite all the shear, you can tell that 93L is really trying to do something at this point. It is really fighting the shear: http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/loop-vis.html


Yes, looking the SAT loops it seems it has more low level structure this morning but lots of shear right now, I guess conditions aren't so great in GOM.
I see some weak convection trying to wrap around the Naked swirl just north of the Yucatan but 5% sounds good to me.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 93L

#408 Postby ROCK » Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:23 am

Maybe the NAM was on to something....this is flowing that ULL into the WGOM. Let it clear the Yuc and sit in the BOC for awhile. Nice warm water down there....
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#409 Postby Derek Ortt » Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:25 am

12 hourly fixes in the GOM? I thought 6 hourly were required for the GOM?
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#410 Postby senorpepr » Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:34 am

A correction...

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NOUS42 KNHC 281600 COR
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1200 PM EDT SUN 28 JUNE 2009
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 29/1100Z TO 30/1100Z JUNE 2009
TCPOD NUMBER.....09-031 CORRECTION

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS -- NO CHANGE
1. SUSPECT AREA -- GULF OF MEXICO
FLLGHT ONE -- TEAL 70
A. 29/1800Z
B. AFXXX 01AAA INVEST
C. 29/1600Z
D. 23.0N 90.0W
E. 29/1700Z TO 30/0000Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY: BRGIN 12 HRLY FIXES
AT 30/1500Z IF SYSTEM DEVELOPS.

3. NOTE: THE MISSIONS TASKED FOR 28/18 AND 29/06Z
WERE CANX BY NHC AT 28/1200Z. -- ADDED --

II. PACIFIC REQUIREMENTS
1. NEGATIVE RECONNAISSANCE REQUIREMENTS.
2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEDING DAY.....NEGATIVE.
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#411 Postby senorpepr » Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:35 am

Derek Ortt wrote:12 hourly fixes in the GOM? I thought 6 hourly were required for the GOM?


I was led to believe it was based on the threat and strength of the storm. I may be wrong, however...
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#412 Postby Bailey1777 » Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:40 am

I love how the Accuweather graphic cover's the entire gulf coast. Can't miss there.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 93L

#413 Postby HurricaneRobert » Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:01 pm

I was hoping that meant showers along the gulf coast.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 93L

#414 Postby HouTXmetro » Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:08 pm

HurricaneRobert wrote:I was hoping that meant showers along the gulf coast.


I could be wrong but I think a frontal boundary should drape itself along the Gulf coast. The instability in addition to the Tropical Wave may provide fuel for some moisture along the Gulf.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 93L

#415 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:40 pm

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ABNT20 KNHC 281738
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 PM EDT SUN JUN 28 2009

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

DISORGANIZED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS EXTEND FROM THE NORTHEASTERN
YUCATAN PENINSULA INTO THE SOUTHERN GULF OF MEXICO. DEVELOPMENT...
IF ANY...OF THIS SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO BE SLOW TO OCCUR AS IT
DRIFTS NORTHWESTWARD OVER THE NEXT DAY OR TWO. THERE IS A LOW
CHANCE...LESS THAN 30 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A
TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER PASCH/LANDSEA


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#416 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:03 pm

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The actual tropical wave is moving west towards Texas...convection diffuse-
in other words their should be a large area of rain/moisture along the
gulf coast from Texas to Florida, regardless of development. Notice
the huge slug of moisture on the east side. Even if the wave goes
into Texas/Mexico, the whole gulf should have a lot more moisture to help
dry areas.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 93L

#417 Postby srainhoutx » Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:12 pm

ROCK wrote:Maybe the NAM was on to something....this is flowing that ULL into the WGOM. Let it clear the Yuc and sit in the BOC for awhile. Nice warm water down there....



I'll take the rain no matter how weak it is. Here's hoping and score one for the NAM. :lol:
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#418 Postby brunota2003 » Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:17 pm

senorpepr wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:12 hourly fixes in the GOM? I thought 6 hourly were required for the GOM?


I was led to believe it was based on the threat and strength of the storm. I may be wrong, however...

Yeah...I think due to the fact it is only an invest at the moment (much less anything tropical), it'd be a waste to support recon aircraft flying around so much. What would they do? Look for people sail boating or wind surfing? "I found one! See if y'all can find him!!!"
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#419 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:22 pm

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There is nothing to look or investigate at this moment.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 93L

#420 Postby Sanibel » Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:27 pm

Poof! Bust :oops:
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