ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION DANNY (05L)

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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM DANNY

#2121 Postby ROCK » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:22 pm

those bands are developing over land and not the ALT. There is a difference.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM DANNY

#2122 Postby massweathernet » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:39 pm

ROCK wrote:those bands are developing over land and not the ALT. There is a difference.


Yes, those main ones over land are diurnal. I was talking about the ones coming onshore. :cheesy:
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM DANNY

#2123 Postby Sanibel » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:44 pm

IMO you can't have a "dying storm" with energy like this:


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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM DANNY

#2124 Postby massweathernet » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:53 pm

http://www.mattnoyes.net/new_england_we ... storm.html

Pro Meteorologist Matt Noyes of NECN-Boston thinks that the ULL and Danny are going to form into one humongous hybrid storm..

Interesting concept. :eek:
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM DANNY

#2125 Postby wxman57 » Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:01 pm

massweathernet wrote:http://www.mattnoyes.net/new_england_weather/2009/08/danny-likely-to-merge-with-multiple-disturbances-to-form-damaging-hybrid-storm.html

Pro Meteorologist Matt Noyes of NECN-Boston thinks that the ULL and Danny are going to form into one humongous hybrid storm..

Interesting concept. :eek:


Actually, Danny will likely transition into a large extratropical storm that could cause gales into New England and across eastern Canada, which is what Matt Noyes was meaning.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM DANNY

#2126 Postby massweathernet » Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:06 pm

wxman57 wrote:
massweathernet wrote:http://www.mattnoyes.net/new_england_weather/2009/08/danny-likely-to-merge-with-multiple-disturbances-to-form-damaging-hybrid-storm.html

Pro Meteorologist Matt Noyes of NECN-Boston thinks that the ULL and Danny are going to form into one humongous hybrid storm..

Interesting concept. :eek:


Actually, Danny will likely transition into a large extratropical storm that could cause gales into New England and across eastern Canada, which is what Matt Noyes was meaning.


No, I caught that. To me, it seems like he's is depicting it as the next "Perfect Storm."
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM DANNY

#2127 Postby canetracker » Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:07 pm

Check out the link below. Does Danny look like he is trying to get his act together again?
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-rgb.html
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM DANNY

#2128 Postby massweathernet » Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:15 pm

canetracker wrote:Check out the link below. Does Danny look like he is trying to get his act together again?
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-rgb.html


To be honest, it looks like the LLC is moving northeast and the convection is staying in the same spot and dying then reforming over and over again in a vicious, never ending cycle. :cry: :(
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM DANNY

#2129 Postby jabber » Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:15 pm

Well here in Raleigh it was raining pine needles about 20 minutes ago as a band (or not band) moved through. Sure a lot diffrent then when I lived in florida.....
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM DANNY

#2130 Postby fci » Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:29 pm

NC George wrote:
vbhoutex wrote:
massweathernet wrote:Bands can clearly be seen on KLTX's NEXRAD in 248 NMI Mode:

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As was stated above I believe those bands over land seem to be more a product of the ULL moving into that area than Danny. Probably a combination of the two air masses colliding and squeezing the moisture out to put it very simply. There is no substantial convection directly as the result of Danny to the west of his LLCC that I can see.


I agree that the bands are a combination of the ULL and Danny, but the one primarily associated with the ULL are going from the SE to the NW, and moving northward, while the ones primarily associated with Danny are going from the NE to the SW, and moving westwards. It's easier to see on a longer loop of the GA/SC/NC area.


I just don't see how the bands moving from the SE through Raleigh can be associated with Danny several hundred miles away with convection primarily to the east of his somewhat naked swirl.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM DANNY

#2131 Postby massweathernet » Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:35 pm

Danny is boring me:

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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM DANNY

#2132 Postby O Town » Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:36 pm

fci wrote:I just don't see how the bands moving from the SE through Raleigh can be associated with Danny several hundred miles away with convection primarily to the east of his somewhat naked swirl.


I agree, not from Danny at all. More from that ULL that is moving their way pushing the storms out in front of it. Its what we in FL have been dealing with for a few days now from that thing and now its finally moving toward you guys.

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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM DANNY

#2133 Postby Stormavoider » Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:44 pm

wxman57 wrote:
massweathernet wrote:http://www.mattnoyes.net/new_england_weather/2009/08/danny-likely-to-merge-with-multiple-disturbances-to-form-damaging-hybrid-storm.html

Pro Meteorologist Matt Noyes of NECN-Boston thinks that the ULL and Danny are going to form into one humongous hybrid storm..

Interesting concept. :eek:


Actually, Danny will likely transition into a large extratropical storm that could cause gales into New England and across eastern Canada, which is what Matt Noyes was meaning.



You go funster!
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM DANNY

#2134 Postby funster » Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:02 pm

Stormavoider wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
massweathernet wrote:http://www.mattnoyes.net/new_england_weather/2009/08/danny-likely-to-merge-with-multiple-disturbances-to-form-damaging-hybrid-storm.html

Pro Meteorologist Matt Noyes of NECN-Boston thinks that the ULL and Danny are going to form into one humongous hybrid storm..

Interesting concept. :eek:


Actually, Danny will likely transition into a large extratropical storm that could cause gales into New England and across eastern Canada, which is what Matt Noyes was meaning.



You go funster!


w00t! :D
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#2135 Postby funster » Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:16 pm

Lots of new convection since earlier today. (Arrows show all the new convection)

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#2136 Postby massweathernet » Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:33 pm

funster wrote:Lots of new convection since earlier today. (Arrows show all the new convection)

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It appears that most of the convection you have noted are actually associated with the ULL that is currently passing through central Georgia and NOT with Danny.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM DANNY (Advisories)

#2137 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:44 pm

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TROPICAL STORM DANNY INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 10A
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL052009
800 PM EDT FRI AUG 28 2009

...DANNY NOW MOVING NORTH-NORTHEASTWARD WITH NO CHANGE IN
ORGANIZATION...

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR THE NORTH CAROLINA COAST
FROM CAPE LOOKOUT NORTHWARD TO DUCK...INCLUDING THE PAMLICO AND
ALBEMARLE SOUNDS. A TROPICAL STORM WATCH MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM
CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE WITHIN THE WATCH AREA...IN THIS CASE...
WITHIN 24 HOURS. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING MAY BE REQUIRED FOR
PORTIONS OF THIS AREA TONIGHT.

INTERESTS ELSEWHERE FROM THE CAROLINAS NORTHWARD TO NEW ENGLAND AND
THE CANADIAN MARITIMES SHOULD MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF DANNY.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA IN THE UNITED
STATES...INCLUDING POSSIBLE INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE
MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE
FORECAST OFFICE. FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA
OUTSIDE OF THE UNITED STATES...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR NATIONAL METEOROLOGICAL SERVICE.

AT 800 PM EDT...0000 UTC...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM DANNY WAS
LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 30.9 NORTH...LONGITUDE 75.1 WEST OR ABOUT
300 MILES...480 KM...SOUTH OF CAPE HATTERAS NORTH CAROLINA AND ABOUT
765 MILES...1230 KM...SOUTH-SOUTHWEST OF NANTUCKET MASSACHUSETTS.

DANNY IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHEAST NEAR 8 MPH...13 KM/HR.
A GENERAL NORTHWARD TO NORTH-NORTHEASTWARD MOTION IS EXPECTED WITH
AN INCREASE IN FORWARD SPEED DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. ON
THIS TRACK...THE CENTER OF DANNY IS EXPECTED TO PASS OFFSHORE OF
THE OUTER BANKS OF NORTH CAROLINA EARLY SATURDAY...PASS OFFSHORE OF
SOUTHEASTERN NEW ENGLAND ON SATURDAY NIGHT AND MOVE NEAR THE
CANADIAN MARITIMES SUNDAY.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 40 MPH...65 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. SOME SLIGHT STRENGTHENING IS POSSIBLE TONIGHT...WITH LITTLE
CHANGE IN INTENSITY EXPECTED ON SATURDAY. DANNY IS EXPECTED TO
BECOME EXTRATROPICAL ON SATURDAY NIGHT.

TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 175 MILES...280 KM
MOSTLY TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THE CENTER.

THE ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 1006 MB...29.71 INCHES.

LARGE SWELLS FROM DANNY ARE EXPECTED TO PRODUCE DANGEROUS SURF
CONDITIONS AND LIFE-THREATENING RIP CURRENTS ALONG THE U.S. EAST
COAST DURING THE NEXT DAY OR TWO. PLEASE CONSULT STATEMENTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORECAST OFFICE FOR MORE
DETAILS.

...SUMMARY OF 800 PM EDT INFORMATION...
LOCATION...30.9N 75.1W
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...40 MPH
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NORTH-NORTHEAST OR 30 DEGREES AT 8 MPH
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1006 MB


THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL
HURRICANE CENTER AT 1100 PM EDT.

$$
FORECASTER BEVEN

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#2138 Postby funster » Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:46 pm

Is this ULL going to suck the energy out of Danny like a Wraith and become a big "hybrid" storm?

massweathernet wrote:
funster wrote:Lots of new convection since earlier today. (Arrows show all the new convection)

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It appears that most of the convection you have noted are actually associated with the ULL that is currently passing through central Georgia and NOT with Danny.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM DANNY

#2139 Postby Emmett_Brown » Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:23 pm

If I didn't know better, I would think that Danny is reforming a couple of hundred miles to the SE in that big blow up of convection... you can see the LLC quickly moving ENE under the top of the convection shield. This thing has 9 lives and several split personalities...
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM DANNY

#2140 Postby lonelymike » Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:19 pm

Yeah Danny is toast as a tropical storm it would seem. As Derek says NEXT please. :ggreen:
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