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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#361 Postby Brent » Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:55 am

This has its chance. I think it's done.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#362 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:01 am

Brent wrote:This has its chance. I think it's done.


Models love it

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#363 Postby supercane » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:08 am

TWD sings a less rosy tune than the TWO, mentioning increasing shear in 93L's future.

000
AXNT20 KNHC 100557
TWDAT

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
205 AM EDT TUE AUG 10 2010

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION FOR NORTH AMERICA...CENTRAL
AMERICA...GULF OF MEXICO...CARIBBEAN SEA...NORTHERN SECTIONS OF
SOUTH AMERICA...AND ATLANTIC OCEAN TO THE AFRICAN COAST FROM THE
EQUATOR TO 32N. THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS BASED ON SATELLITE
IMAGERY...METEOROLOGICAL ANALYSIS...WEATHER OBSERVATIONS...AND
RADAR.

BASED ON 0000 UTC SURFACE ANALYSIS AND SATELLITE IMAGERY THROUGH
0515 UTC.

...SPECIAL FEATURES...
AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE IN THE CENTRAL ATLC IS ANALYZED AS A
1014 MB LOW NEAR 24N50W MOVING W-NW NEAR 10-15 KT AND IS
FORECAST TO TURN NW AND N DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS DUE TO
AN UPPER LEVEL LOW CENTERED NEAR 26N60W. EARLIER ASCAT PASSES
INDICATED A STRONG WIND FIELD LOCATED WITHIN 240 NM OF THE
CENTER OF THE LOW IN THE NORTHERN SEMICIRCLE. SCATTERED SHOWERS
AND LIMITED ISOLATED MODERATE TO STRONG CONVECTION ARE NE OF THE
LOW FROM 20N-27N BETWEEN 45W-51W. ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE
MARGINALLY CONDUCIVE FOR DEVELOPMENT DUE TO A LACK OF UPPER
LEVEL WIND SHEAR...HOWEVER AS THE LOW TRACKS NW...IT WILL BEGIN
TO MOVE INTO AN AREA OF INCREASED WIND SHEAR AND LIKELY THWART
DEVELOPMENT. CURRENTLY SURROUNDED BY A FAVORABLE AREA OF UPPER
LEVEL DIVERGENCE...ORGANIZATION OF CONVECTION AND OVERALL
IMPROVEMENT OF SATELLITE PRESENCE COULD RESULT IN THE FORMATION
OF A TROPICAL CYCLONE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.


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#364 Postby supercane » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:24 am

6Z position update from ATCF shows continued W motion, steady at 30kt:

AL, 93, 2010081006, , BEST, 0, 236N, 512W, 30, 1012, LO, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1016, 150, 90, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S,
AL, 93, 2010081000, , BEST, 0, 236N, 502W, 30, 1012, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 1016, 125, 100, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S,
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#365 Postby supercane » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:27 am

Dvorak classification from SSD back up to 1.0:

DATE/TIME LAT LON CLASSIFICATION STORM
10/0545 UTC 23.6N 51.1W T1.0/1.0 93L
09/2345 UTC 23.6N 50.4W TOO WEAK 93L
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#366 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:21 am

This is looking great tonight. Development looking likely if that convection holds. I have never been impressed convectively by this invest, but I am now.

It's an exciting night to be a weather enthusiast.
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#367 Postby bob rulz » Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:28 am

Indeed, it's had a major blow-up of convection. Hopefully it can sustain it. It's not directly over the center yet though.
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#368 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:40 am

Hmmm I wouldn't call it a major burst but its certainly something that may help to give this system a much needed boost.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#369 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:46 am

Still red but down to 60% at 8 AM TWO.

SATELLITE IMAGES INDICATE THAT THE SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY
ASSOCIATED WITH A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM LOCATED ABOUT 820 MILES
EAST-NORTHEAST OF THE LEEWARDS ISLANDS HAS NOT BECOME ANY BETTER
ORGANIZED SINCE YESTERDAY. THE LOW HAS SLOWED DOWN AND IS EXPECTED
TO MOVE NORTH-NORTHWESTWARD OR NORTHWARD TOWARD AN ENVIRONMENT A
LITTLE LESS FAVORABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT. HOWEVER... THERE IS STILL A
HIGH CHANCE...60 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL
CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.
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#370 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:51 am

Down to 60% which makes sense given the fact it still isn't producing the goods so to speak!

I still don't think we can rule out development though as it starts to curve NNE/NE.
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#371 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:03 am

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#372 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:04 am

12z

AL, 93, 2010081012, , BEST, 0, 241N, 514W, 30, 1012, LO
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#373 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:11 am

SHIPS still makes it a hurricane
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#374 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:22 am

What will be interesting to watch for is when the system starts to turn northwards, I've noticed systems with this sort of sheared looking presentation often get better organised when they move northwards.
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#375 Postby Aquawind » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:27 am

KWT wrote:What will be interesting to watch for is when the system starts to turn northwards, I've noticed systems with this sort of sheared looking presentation often get better organised when they move northwards.


Exactly..Go with the flow and grow.
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#376 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:35 am

Whilst I've not looked at the loop yet, that still image that Hurakan has pu up sure makes it look like it has a multiple low look to it, with two LLCs?
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#377 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:37 am

KWT wrote:Whilst I've not looked at the loop yet, that still image that Hurakan has pu up sure makes it look like it has a multiple low look to it, with two LLCs?


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small vortex going around the well-defined center
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#378 Postby Aquawind » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:40 am

Yep.. While the overall LL cirulation has been excellent for a few days now the actual center has looked pretty ugly at times. It looks like a little eddy has formed momentarily as well. I would imagine this happens often we just don't see it under the UL clouds.
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#379 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:42 am

Loop - http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... is_floater

Convection is forming very close to the center ... if it persists, we have a cyclone, if not, then no cyclone.
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#380 Postby Aquawind » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:46 am

HURAKAN wrote:Loop - http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... is_floater

Convection is forming very close to the center ... if it persists, we have a cyclone, if not, then no cyclone.



Yep it's missing that very important part of the puzzle.. Persistant convection..for a few days now.
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