WPAC : TROPICAL DEPRESSION CONSON

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Re: WPAC : TYPHOON CONSON

#381 Postby Cookie » Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:13 am

Typhoon Hunter wrote:Lol probably the quickest interview I've ever done!

KWT wrote:TH are you filming its movement by any chance...The WPAC always gives people a chance to chase even in the slowest of seasons.


When you say its movement, you mean radar loop etc on my laptop? I've got a few shots of that but I'm primarily here covering for news agencies.

I'll be adding video onto Youtube tomorrow when I get back to Hong Kong. Can't upload in mainland China since it's banned.

My footage should be airing on The Weather Channel within the hour.


Look forward to seeing the footage mate, I hope you will post a link in this thread
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#382 Postby Typhoon Hunter » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:11 am

Ferocious conditions slamming my location again, shame I can't film since it's so dark.

Looking at the sat loop looks like I'm under some exploding convection hence the wild weather.
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Re: WPAC : TYPHOON CONSON

#383 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:37 pm

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#384 Postby senorpepr » Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:55 pm

Here are some precip totals for Typhoon Conson -- 00Z 14 July through 00Z 16 July.

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#385 Postby KWT » Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:21 pm

Microwave presentation is weakening again, not surprrising given how close to land it is right now really...
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#386 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:18 pm

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WTPN31 PGTW 162100
MSGID/GENADMIN/NAVMARFCSTCEN PEARL HARBOR HI/JTWC//
SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING//
RMKS/
1. TROPICAL STORM 03W (CONSON) WARNING NR 022
DOWNGRADED FROM TYPHOON 03W
01 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONE IN NORTHWESTPAC
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
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WARNING POSITION:
161800Z --- NEAR 18.6N 108.4E
MOVEMENT PAST SIX HOURS - 295 DEGREES AT 12 KTS
POSITION ACCURATE TO WITHIN 060 NM
POSITION BASED ON CENTER LOCATED BY SATELLITE
PRESENT WIND DISTRIBUTION:
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 060 KT, GUSTS 075 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 030 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
030 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 060 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
080 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
075 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
090 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
REPEAT POSIT: 18.6N 108.4E
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FORECASTS:
12 HRS, VALID AT:
170600Z --- 19.7N 107.1E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 055 KT, GUSTS 070 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 030 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
035 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 065 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
060 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
065 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
070 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 24 HR POSIT: 310 DEG/ 08 KTS
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24 HRS, VALID AT:
171800Z --- 20.7N 105.8E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 040 KT, GUSTS 050 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
DISSIPATING AS A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE OVER LAND
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 025 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
020 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
020 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
030 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 36 HR POSIT: 310 DEG/ 07 KTS
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36 HRS, VALID AT:
180600Z --- 21.5N 104.7E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 020 KT, GUSTS 030 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
DISSIPATED AS A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE OVER LAND
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REMARKS:
162100Z POSITION NEAR 18.9N 108.1E.
TROPICAL STORM (TS) 03W (CONSON), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 195 NM
SOUTHEAST OF HANOI VIETNAM, HAS WEAKENED FROM A TYPHOON AND TRACKED
WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT 12 KNOTS OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS. ANIMATED
WATER VAPOR IMAGERY SHOWS CONVECTION AMASSED MOSTLY ON THE SOUTHWEST
QUADRANT OF THE STORM. UPPER LEVEL ANALYSIS INDICATES INCREASING
NORTHEASTERLY VERTICAL WIND SHEAR (VWS). THIS IS SUPPORTED BY UPPER
AIR DATA FROM HANOI SHOWING WINDS AT AND ABOVE 500 MB TO BE WELL IN
EXCESS OF 50 KNOTS AND SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN THOSE OVER HAINAN.
THE CURRENT POSITION IS EXTRAPOLATED FROM A 161519Z TRMM MICROWAVE
IMAGE DEPICTING A PARTIAL EYE. THE CURRENT INTENSITY OF 60 KNOTS IS
BASED ON DVORAK ESTIMATES FROM PGTW, KNES, AND RJTD RANGING FROM 55
TO 65 KNOTS. THE SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE TRACKING WEST-
NORTHWESTWARD ALONG THE SOUTHWEST PERIPHERY OF THE MID-LEVEL
SUBTROPICAL RIDGE ANCHORED IN THE NORTHWEST PACIFIC AND MAKE LANDFALL
SOUTHEAST OF HANOI BETWEEN TAU 12 AND 24. THE AVAILABLE NUMERIC
GUIDANCE IS IN OVERALL GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THIS TRACK FORECAST.
MAXIMUM SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT AT 161800Z IS 19 FEET. NEXT WARNINGS
AT 170300Z, 170900Z, 171500Z AND 172100Z.
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#387 Postby KWT » Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:32 pm

Looks like this one will still come in stronger then the JWTC was expecting a few days ago...
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#388 Postby Typhoon Hunter » Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:24 pm

Overcast and damp morning here in Sanya - damage doesn't look too bad but I haven't had a proper chance to look around.

My footage is on CNN and you can see clip on their website -

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiap ... bp9gQc951G
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Re: WPAC : TYPHOON CONSON

#389 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:34 pm

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#390 Postby KWT » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:00 pm

Looks like Conson is back to looking like half a strong with the southern side looking pretty solid but pretty much a non-existant northern section.
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Re: WPAC : TYPHOON CONSON

#391 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:19 pm

Japan Meteorological Agency
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #41
SEVERE TROPICAL STORM CONSON (T1002)
9:00 AM JST July 17 2010
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SUBJECT: Category Two Typhoon In The Gulf Of Tonkin

At 0:00 AM UTC, Severe Tropical Storm Conson (980 hPa) located at 18.9N 107.7E has 10 minute sustained winds of 60 knots with gusts of 85 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving west northwest at 9 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: T3.5

Storm Force Winds
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40 NM from the center

Gale Force Winds
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160 NM from the center

Forecast and Intensity
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24 HRS: 20.7N 105.7E - 40 knots (CAT 1/Tropical Storm)
48 HRS: 22.5N 103.7E - 30 knots (Tropical Depression)
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#392 Postby Chacor » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:30 pm

^ Doesn't look anything at all like an official JMA advisory. Where's that from?
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Re: WPAC : SEVERE TROPICAL STORM CONSON

#393 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:33 pm

Chacor,here is the official JMA one. I found that on another board.

http://www.jma.go.jp/en/typh/

STS 1002 (Conson)
Issued at 00:40 UTC, 17 July 2010
<Analyses at 17/00 UTC>
Scale -
Intensity -
Center position N18°55'(18.9°)
E107°40'(107.7°)
Direction and speed of movement WNW 15km/h(9kt)
Central pressure 980hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 30m/s(60kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 45m/s(85kt)
Area of 50kt winds or more Wide 70km(40NM)
Area of 30kt winds or more Wide 300km(160NM)

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#394 Postby ManilaTC » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:55 pm

phwxenthusiast wrote:
theavocado wrote:
ClarkEligue wrote:a lot of changes have to happen at PAGASA, three hour warnings when a storm is about 24 hours from landfall, such as it should be an independent body...and get those freaking dopplers online!


I'm not sure 3 hourly warnings would do much. Numerical models are only run every 6 or 12 hours, depending on the model. I don't see that changing anytime soon: given the choice of applying new computer power to faster outputs or higher resolution, most of the time higher resolution wins.

Totally agree with the RADAR issue....


well they should not entirely rely on numerical models alone... they could look at the latest satellite images, wind and barometer readings to make a "rough" estimate as to how the typhoon is progressing...

i, too, can't wait for the radars to be online...



It does not take a rocket scientist, my dear.

The three-hourly warnings 24 hours before expected landfall only need to have the following:
- latest center fix (based on satellite imagery and radar)
- current speed and direction
- intensity estimate.
- landfall target area and estimated ETA
- ETA for eyewall and eye passage
- and upgrade warnings as much as possible....

Also maybe rehash the warning system:

if people by experience know that on a 4 step system, signal #2 is not that strong... will they prepare? a signal #2 by a strong 95kph tropical storm making a eyewall/center passage can be disastrous as exemplified by Conson.

they will certainly prepare if the warnings say

A SEVERE TROPICAL STORM WARNING is over NORTHERN QUEZON, METRO MANILA, RIZAL, LAGUNA, CAVITE, BATAAN, BULACAN AND BATAAN. Winds of up to 95 kph with gusts of 120 kph are expected in the next 12 hours.

How about that?

they can still use the forecast reasonings for their 5am, 11am, 5pm, 11pm bulletins.

this so as not to catch us flatfooted.
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#395 Postby Chacor » Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:39 am

It would not be a bad idea for PAGASA to borrow the NHC's warning format.
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#396 Postby wyq614 » Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:04 am

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Yes, eye appeared again.
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#397 Postby senorpepr » Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:01 am

Updated precip totals for Conson through 17 July 00Z.

Paracel Islands really got hit with some heavy precip... One island received 6.33" (~161 mm) over the 72 hour period and another received 12.11" (~308 mm).

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Re: WPAC : SEVERE TROPICAL STORM CONSON

#398 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:54 am

http://www.jma.go.jp/en/typh/

TS 1002 (Conson)
Issued at 12:50 UTC, 17 July 2010
<Analyses at 17/12 UTC>
Scale -
Intensity -
Center position N20°35'(20.6°)
E106°55'(106.9°)
Direction and speed of movement NW 15km/h(8kt)
Central pressure 990hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 23m/s(45kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 35m/s(65kt)
Area of 30kt winds or more Wide 220km(120NM)
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#399 Postby Typhoon Hunter » Sat Jul 17, 2010 9:46 am

Hi guys.

Video now online of the show in Sanya yesterday. It's a real shame the back end of the eyewall hit after dark, but I did as best I could.

Enjoy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT2FtvzBamQ
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#400 Postby Cookie » Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:09 pm

Typhoon Hunter wrote:Hi guys.

Video now online of the show in Sanya yesterday. It's a real shame the back end of the eyewall hit after dark, but I did as best I could.

Enjoy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT2FtvzBamQ


thanks mate amazing :D
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