ATL: Ex Tropical Storm EARL - Discussion

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Re: ATL: Ex Tropical Storm EARL - Discussion

#4561 Postby Terry » Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:53 pm

Category 5 wrote:
vbhoutex wrote:I'd like to make a suggestion about this. I think that you guys have some legitimate questions concerning Earl. Email the NHC and tell them what you think and why and ask them why they ended the advisories. I would be interested in their response. They are always open to questions and generally will respond.


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Category5 - please let us know the response.
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#4562 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:00 pm

Chacor wrote:I'd guess that would be gusts, not sustained. That's in hurricane strength territory.


Indeed those were gusts. The highest sustained winds I believe were around 110 km/h (70 mph).

If those were sustained, that would support an 80 kt intensity since it is highly unlikely the highest winds were recorded given the large RMW.
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Re: ATL: Ex Tropical Storm EARL - Discussion

#4563 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:41 pm

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This is NOT official, but here is what I would do for the best track of Earl:

August 25

0000 - 14.0N / 25.8W - 30 kt - 1005mb - Tropical depression
0600 - 14.1N / 28.1W - 30 kt - 1004mb
1200 - 14.2N / 30.3W - 35 kt - 1003mb - Tropical storm
1800 - 14.4N / 31.8W - 35 kt - 1003mb

August 26

0000 - 14.6N / 33.0W - 35 kt - 1003mb
0600 - 14.8N / 34.1W - 35 kt - 1003mb
1200 - 15.0N / 35.5W - 40 kt - 1001mb
1800 - 15.2N / 37.4W - 40 kt - 999mb

August 27

0000 - 15.4N / 39.6W - 40 kt - 1000mb
0600 - 15.6N / 41.2W - 35 kt - 1002mb
1200 - 15.7N / 43.2W - 35 kt - 1002mb
1800 - 15.7N / 45.1W - 40 kt - 999mb

August 28

0000 - 15.8N / 47.2W - 45 kt - 996mb
0600 - 15.8N / 49.2W - 50 kt - 994mb
1200 - 15.9N / 51.0W - 50 kt - 993mb
1800 - 16.3N / 53.3W - 50 kt - 993mb

August 29

0000 - 16.5N / 54.6W - 55 kt - 990mb
0600 - 16.7N / 56.2W - 60 kt - 987mb
1200 - 17.1N / 57.7W - 65 kt - 985mb - Hurricane
1800 - 17.4N / 59.0W - 70 kt - 977mb

August 30

0000 - 17.7N / 60.4W - 80 kt - 971mb
0600 - 18.1N / 61.8W - 85 kt - 969mb
1200 - 18.5N / 63.0W - 95 kt - 961mb
1800 - 19.0N / 64.2W - 105 kt - 948mb

August 31

0000 - 19.6N / 65.2W - 110 kt - 938mb
0600 - 20.0N / 66.3W - 115 kt - 931mb
1200 - 20.8N / 67.4W - 110 kt - 935mb
1800 - 21.6N / 68.3W - 110 kt - 940mb

September 1

0000 - 22.6N / 69.2W - 110 kt - 941mb
0600 - 23.5N / 70.6W - 105 kt - 941mb
1200 - 24.5N / 71.6W - 105 kt - 943mb
1800 - 25.7N / 72.7W - 115 kt - 939mb

September 2

0000 - 27.1N / 73.4W - 120 kt - 931mb
0600 - 28.6N / 74.4W - 125 kt - 927mb - Minimum pressure
1200 - 30.1N / 74.8W - 115 kt - 936mb
1800 - 31.7N / 75.2W - 105 kt - 945mb

September 3

0000 - 33.0N / 74.7W - 95 kt - 950mb
0600 - 34.6N / 74.4W - 85 kt - 956mb
1200 - 36.2N / 73.5W - 75 kt - 959mb
1800 - 37.5N / 72.5W - 70 kt - 961mb

September 4

0000 - 39.0N / 70.8W - 60 kt - 961mb - Tropical storm
0600 - 40.8N / 68.3W - 65 kt - 962mb - Hurricane
1200 - 43.0N / 65.7W - 70 kt - 960mb
1430 - 43.7N / 65.1W - 70 kt - 959mb - Landfall, Western Head NS
1800 - 46.0N / 63.3W - 65 kt - 964mb

September 5

0000 - 49.5N / 60.3W - 55 kt - 971mb - Tropical storm
0600 - 51.1N / 58.0W - 45 kt - 980mb - Extratropical
1200 - 53.1N / 55.7W - 40 kt - 984mb
1800 - Absorbed in larger low
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#4564 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:44 pm

Some notes in there:

1) I brought it down to 35 kt for a bit in the long stretch at 40 kt, when it appeared to weaken a bit.

2) The intensity in its first strengthening episode appears to be too high based on aircraft data (Dvorak given extra weight then). During that long stretch at Cat 4, I brought it down to Cat 3 for all but 6 hours (when it was 931mb).

3) The apparent slow strengthening up to landfall was taken into account. I made the assumption it weakened to a TS when Recon left, then quickly bounced back. That has some uncertainty though, it may have remained a hurricane.

4) Recon gaps were smoothed out and pressures adjusted, especially before the first Recon flight.

5) For the most part, track points are unchanged.
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Re: ATL: Ex Tropical Storm EARL - Discussion

#4565 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Sun Sep 05, 2010 2:12 pm

My final blog post regarding this event. The official summary of the effects Earl had on Atlantic Canada:

http://hybridstorm-weatherblog.blogspot.com/2010/09/summary-effects-of-earl-on-atlantic.html
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#4566 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Sun Sep 05, 2010 2:14 pm

WeatherGuesser wrote:CBC story says they clocked winds at 135Km/H

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/st ... -hits.html


Yeah, at Beaver Island in Nova Scotia which would be 85 mph a gust of course. Check out my last blog post, as noted above, it contains the official summary of Earl in Atlantic Canada.
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Re: ATL: Ex Tropical Storm EARL - Discussion

#4567 Postby Category 5 » Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:51 pm

From Dennis Feltgen

"Earl strongest winds were removed from the center, and the storm's
profile was becoming baroclinic, marking the transition from tropical to
extratropical/post-tropical."

I didn't get a in depth look at the exact wind profile but that is indicative of an ET/PT system.
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