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#41 Postby thetruesms » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:20 pm

Anyone else noticed that the NOAA missions are named after Muppets characters? Right now we've got Gonzo leaving dropsondes all over the place, and Miss Piggy on her way in :lol:
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#42 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:23 pm

thetruesms wrote:Anyone else noticed that the NOAA missions are named after Muppets characters? Right now we've got Gonzo leaving dropsondes all over the place, and Miss Piggy on her way in :lol:


yeah and Kermit!! lol
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#43 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:26 pm

thetruesms wrote:Anyone else noticed that the NOAA missions are named after Muppets characters? Right now we've got Gonzo leaving dropsondes all over the place, and Miss Piggy on her way in :lol:
I added that to the recon network link to represent the actual plane "nicknames" for NOAA aircraft. It is not mission specific.

http://celebrating200years.noaa.gov/mag ... lcome.html
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#44 Postby thetruesms » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:32 pm

Whoops, somehow in all this time I've missed their nicknames :oops: With the PGI trio going on, I got tricked into thinking it was something new
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#45 Postby Scorpion » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:34 pm

I'm thinking recon could find a borderline 5 when it comes in
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#46 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:37 pm

thetruesms wrote:Whoops, somehow in all this time I've missed their nicknames :oops: With the PGI trio going on, I got tricked into thinking it was something new
I only added it to the Google Earth recon system in the past day. The aircraft identifier helps distinguish things when there is a lot of recon.
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#47 Postby Aquawind » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:02 pm

Looking at the data and graphics of the flight patterns in the RECON data thread is awesome.. 8-)
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#48 Postby weatherSnoop » Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:20 am

I thought the 03 flag was for SFMR. Does that impact the pressure readings as well?
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#49 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:24 am

From NHOP (National Hurricane Operations Plan), Appendix G:

First column indicates status of positional variables as follows:
0 All parameters of nominal accuracy
1 Lat/lon questionable
2 Geopotential altitude or static pressure questionable
3 Both lat/lon and GA/PS questionable

Second column indicates status of meteorological variables as follows:
0 All parameters of nominal accuracy
1 T or TD questionable
2 Flight-level winds questionable
3 SFMR parameter(s) questionable
4 T/TD and FL winds questionable
5 T/TD and SFMR questionable
6 FL winds and SFMR questionable
9 T/TD, FL winds, and SFMR questionable
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#50 Postby weatherSnoop » Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:27 am

Thanks, I should have known that...appreciate the lesson
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#51 Postby SunnyThoughts » Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:28 am

A HUGE thanks to DAVE for posting all the recon obs Everyone appreciates all your hard work Dave, thanks again!
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#52 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:30 am

Forgot the link to NHOP:
http://www.ofcm.gov/nhop/10/nhop10.htm

So if the first number is a 2 or 3, then extrap pressure is questionable since you can't do a proper extrap if you don't know reliably what level you are at.
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#53 Postby weatherSnoop » Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:30 am

Well, stuck on obs 8 and I need to turn in
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#54 Postby SunnyThoughts » Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:59 pm

Is the next task for Earl coming in the near future? Next couple of hours I think?
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Re: ATL: EARL - Recon Discussion

#55 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:08 pm

It's already out there actually, it is just not transmitting HDOBS yet it would appear.

At 3:40PM EDT it was 214 miles (345 km) to the ENE (69°) from Daytona Beach, FL, USA.
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Re: ATL: EARL - Recon Discussion

#56 Postby tailgater » Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:50 pm

Anyone notice that they dropping dropsondes off the SE US coast.
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#57 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:01 pm

I just noticed from the plan of the day that the current Air Force mission is from 24,000 TO 33,000 FT, so not a normal mission.

FLIGHT TWO -- TEAL 78
A. 01/0000Z
B. AFXXX 0807A EARL
C. 31/1730Z
F. 24,000 TO 33,000 FT

The next normal flight should depart at 9:15PM EDT. Looks like they mistakenly have "A. 01/1800Z" instead of "A. 01/0600Z".

FLIGHT THREE -- TEAL 77
A. 01/1800Z
B. AFXXX 0907A EARL
C. 01/0115Z
D. 24.0N 69.7W
E. 01/0530Z TO 01/0800Z
F. SFC TO 15,000 FT
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#58 Postby SunnyThoughts » Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:23 pm

I believe the AF plane is sitting on the runway
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#59 Postby brunota2003 » Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:36 pm

Out of curiosity, didn't a G-IV flight go out tonight, and if so, will the data from the dropsondes be in the 00Z models? (Meaning the ones that come out after 11 pm like the 00Z GFS)
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Re: ATL: EARL - Recon Discussion

#60 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:46 pm

Plane not decending yet, but it will do that shortly.
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