ATL: Ex-Tropical Storm HERMINE - Discussion

[Shoshana]

That's some debris:

0244 AM FLASH FLOOD SALADO 30.93N 97.53W
09/08/2010 BELL TX BROADCAST MEDIA

BRIDGE IN SALADO HAS TREES AND DEBRIS...INCLUDING A
TRUCK...WASHED UP ONTO IT.

Not surprised- I've driven up I-35 thru Salado and water was deep over the freeway frontage road....

[Chacor]

I should point out it's wrong to call this "ex-Hermine". Hermine is still a tropical cyclone - tropical depressions over land in the US with flood threats and not expected to return over water are merely warned on by the HPC, not NHC. It's been this way for years (which I don't agree with).

[Portastorm]

Wow ... what a night! Generally 10-15 inches of rain in many parts of central and west Austin, more than 30 roads closed, numerous high-water rescues needed, hundreds of homes evacuated due to flooding issues ... all because of Hermine. Basically one of those feeder bands late yesterday set up like a conveyor belt along the I-35 corridor and ... BOOM!

I have to say that it has been a long, long time since I've seen a tropical system impact AUS so severely.

[Annie Oakley]

And also one missing woman who decided to drive past a barrier at a low-water crossing.

[PTrackerLA]

Amazing rainfall totals for the Austin area! I was reading the flood warnings and it seems Barton creek's major flood crest will rival one back in 1991! I've been to the jogging/hiking trails in this area before and have seen the creek high and flowing rapidly but it must be quite a sight to see this morning! Stay safe everyone out there in central Texas.

[WacoWx]

Wow ... what a night! Generally 10-15 inches of rain in many parts of central and west Austin, more than 30 roads closed, numerous high-water rescues needed, hundreds of homes evacuated due to flooding issues ... all because of Hermine. Basically one of those feeder bands late yesterday set up like a conveyor belt along the I-35 corridor and ... BOOM!

I have to say that it has been a long, long time since I've seen a tropical system impact AUS so severely.

I saw this band continue to build SW when i went to bed and knew there would be some SERIOUS issues. This is one for the record book for the Austin RR area. Not over yet either.

[artist]

for the city of Austin , from link given above -
http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/oem/oem_results.cfm

Status Street City/County date closed time closed date opened time opened
closed N. Lamar Between 9th & 12th 09/08/10 12:00 AM
open 14100 Fitzhugh Road 09/08/10 1:30 AM
closed WEIR LOOP Rd 09/08/10 8:00 AM
closed 12400 Hewitt Lane 09/08/19 1:30 AM
closed 800 Block Edgegrove Drive 09/08/10 1:30 AM
closed 2300 block River Hills Rd 09/08/10 1:30 AM
closed 2800 Bee Caves Road 09/08/10 1:30 AM
closed 9800 block FM 1826 09/08/10 1:30 AM
closed 10400 Doyle Road 09/08/10 1:30 AM
closed 12000 block Old San Antonio Road 09/08/10 1:30 AM
closed 18300 block Medina Vista Lane 09/08/10 1:30 AM
closed FM2769 between Bullick Hollow and Dies Ranch Rd 09/08/10 1:30 AM
closed Hillbilly Lane 09/08/10 1:30 AM
closed 22700 Big Sandy Drive 09/08/10 1:30 AM
closed 23400 Nameless Road 09/08/10 1:30 AM
closed 3900 block Westlake Drive 09/08/10 1:30 AM
closed 11500 Manchaca Road 09/08/10 1:30 AM
closed 3100 William Cannon 09/07/10 11:29 PM
closed Ditmar @ S. Congress 09/07/10 11:29 PM
closed 10140 Old San Antonio 09/07/10 11:29 PM
closed 10100 David Moore Dr 09/07/10 11:29 PM
closed 6701 Lakewood Dr. 09/07/10 11:29 PM
closed 5500 - 5600 Westgate Blvd. 09/07/10 11:02 PM
closed 6200 Joe Tanner 09/07/10 9:54 PM
closed 6700 Old Bee Caves Rd 09/07/10 9:43 PM
closed 7900 Postem Lane 09/07/10 9:20 AM
closed 2400 Hoeke (Hoeke & Postem) 09/07/10 9:20 AM
closed 301 W 32nd 09/07/10 8:25 PM
closed 12211 Waters Park 09/07/10 7:45 PM
closed 2800 O'Neal 09/07/10 7:45 PM
closed 3205 Adelphi 09/07/10 7:45 PM
closed 4900 Wasson 09/07/10 6:34 PM
closed Spicewood Springs from 360 to Old Lampasas 09/07/10 6:21 PM
closed 5300 Old Spicewood Springs Rd 09/07/10 5:40 PM

[artist]

map of outages for AUstin -

http://my.austinenergy.com/outages/

[artist]

For immediate release
September 8, 2010

Waterway closures are anticipated by early Wednesday morning
Flooding conditions have created high and swift water that will require the closure of all area waterways by early Wednesday morning. These waterways include Lake Austin, Lady Bird Lake, the portion of the Colorado River below Longhorn Dam, and creeks within the City of Austin, including Barton Creek.

It is extremely important for persons to avoid these waterways. Swift currents may overwhelm non-motorized boats and those with small motors, and debris in the waterway poses a significant threat to life and property.

Persons are advised that it is an offense to violate a waterway closure Order or to attempt a low water crossing of any road that has been barricaded. Watercrafts being operated on waters during a Flood Ban will be impounded.

As little as six inches of moving water can be extremely dangerous. Flooding can happen “in a flash” with little or no warning and the floodwaters can reach full peak in only a few minutes. When approaching a flooding road, TURN AROUND DON’T DROWN.

Parents are particular cautioned to keep children away from creeks, streams, and waterways.

###

[gboudx]

Basically one of those feeder bands late yesterday set up like a conveyor belt along the I-35 corridor and ... BOOM!

This band setup all the way into DFW, and is still on-going. Some parts of the metroplex showing radar estimates of 8+ so far. Mostly out towards Ft. Worth, Arlington and Irving. We needed a good soaking rain, but not this much. My home "only" had 2+ so far.

[CrazyC83]

I should point out it's wrong to call this "ex-Hermine". Hermine is still a tropical cyclone - tropical depressions over land in the US with flood threats and not expected to return over water are merely warned on by the HPC, not NHC. It's been this way for years (which I don't agree with).

That is correct. It is officially ex-Hermine when the HPC advisories change to "remnants of Hermine". That is the point where the circulation dissipates.

[artist]

there have already been several deaths associated with Hermine and there are other people missing in Texas

[somethingfunny]

WOW what a day! Thank God that band finally moved on to the east....if we'd had another one or two hours of rain like that we'd be underwater like Nashville and Atlanta were.

Most of DFW has seen 6-10" of rain.

[theregulator]

there have already been several deaths associated with Hermine and there are other people missing in Texas

I've been "tweeting" on this heavily since the storm made landfall (http://www.twitter.com/trmyhre), and I am thoroughly amazed at the lack of action on the part of @TexGov (Texas Governor Perry) to ask for any Federal assistance or declaration of disaster. What more has to happen before this becomes a significant enough a catastrophe?

Could it be the lingering and now increasing threat of tornadoes? http://www.texasstormchasers.com/2010/0 ... ncreasing/

[artist]

WOW what a day! Thank God that band finally moved on to the east....if we'd had another one or two hours of rain like that we'd be underwater like Nashville and Atlanta were.

Most of DFW has seen 6-10" of rain.

I have family that lives there. Has the flooding subsided some?

[somethingfunny]

WOW what a day! Thank God that band finally moved on to the east....if we'd had another one or two hours of rain like that we'd be underwater like Nashville and Atlanta were.

Most of DFW has seen 6-10" of rain.

I have family that lives there. Has the flooding subsided some?

Yes , the rain has tapered off. Most areas didn't see more than street flooding although in the Mid-Cities from Arlington/Grand Prairie up through Lewisville/Southlake a number of apartment complexes and trailer parks flooded. Six Flags is underwater as well, but that happens all the time.

TXC113-090547-
/O.CON.KFWD.FL.W.0082.000000T0000Z-000000T0000Z/
/DALT2.3.ER.100908T1111Z.100909T1200Z.000000T0000Z.NO/
1247 PM CDT WED SEP 8 2010

THE FLOOD WARNING CONTINUES FOR
THE TRINITY RIVER AT DALLAS.
* UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE...OR UNTIL THE WARNING IS CANCELLED.
* AT 1200 PM WEDNESDAY THE STAGE WAS 34.61 FEET.
* FLOOD STAGE IS 30 FEET.
* MINOR FLOODING IS OCCURRING AND MAJOR FLOODING IS FORECAST.
* FORECAST...THE RIVER WILL CONTINUE RISING TO A CREST BETWEEN 48 AND
49 FEET BY THURSDAY MORNING THEN BEGIN FALLING BUT REMAIN ABOVE
FLOOD STAGE INTO THE WEEKEND.
* AT 48 FEET THE AREA AROUND THE OLD PROCTER AND GAMBLE PLANT WILL
FLOOD. PERSONS ALONG THE RIVER AND IN FLOOD PRONE AREAS SHOULD
EXPECT MUCH HIGHER WATER THAN NORMAL.

[artist]

WOW what a day! Thank God that band finally moved on to the east....if we'd had another one or two hours of rain like that we'd be underwater like Nashville and Atlanta were.

Most of DFW has seen 6-10" of rain.

I have family that lives there. Has the flooding subsided some?

Yes , the rain has tapered off. Most areas didn't see more than street flooding although in the Mid-Cities from Arlington/Grand Prairie up through Lewisville/Southlake a number of apartment complexes and trailer parks flooded. Six Flags is underwater as well, but that happens all the time.

TXC113-090547-
/O.CON.KFWD.FL.W.0082.000000T0000Z-000000T0000Z/
/DALT2.3.ER.100908T1111Z.100909T1200Z.000000T0000Z.NO/
1247 PM CDT WED SEP 8 2010

THE FLOOD WARNING CONTINUES FOR
THE TRINITY RIVER AT DALLAS.
* UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE...OR UNTIL THE WARNING IS CANCELLED.
* AT 1200 PM WEDNESDAY THE STAGE WAS 34.61 FEET.
* FLOOD STAGE IS 30 FEET.
* MINOR FLOODING IS OCCURRING AND MAJOR FLOODING IS FORECAST.
* FORECAST...THE RIVER WILL CONTINUE RISING TO A CREST BETWEEN 48 AND
49 FEET BY THURSDAY MORNING THEN BEGIN FALLING BUT REMAIN ABOVE
FLOOD STAGE INTO THE WEEKEND.
* AT 48 FEET THE AREA AROUND THE OLD PROCTER AND GAMBLE PLANT WILL
FLOOD. PERSONS ALONG THE RIVER AND IN FLOOD PRONE AREAS SHOULD
EXPECT MUCH HIGHER WATER THAN NORMAL.

thanks somethingfunny!

[artist]

A man drowned early Wednesday afternoon as he was swept away from firefighters trying to rescue him on a flood-swollen creek north of Alvarado in Johnson County, Cleburne's fire chief said.

http://www.star-telegram.com/

[South Texas Storms]

we had 7.5 inches in san antonio. not as bad as austin, but still there were numerous high water rescues late last night.

[somethingfunny]

6.92" here in Garland. The max seems to be nearly 11" in Keller, as far as DFW goes. I'll try to find a total precipitation map. This system really nailed all of the major inland metro areas in Texas all together - San Antonio, Austin, Killeen/Fort Hood, and DFW seem to be the epicenters of damage with relatively little outside of the immediate I-35 corridor.