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#81 Postby supercane » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:37 pm

WTPQ21 RJTD 220000
RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVISORY
NAME TD
ANALYSIS
PSTN 220000UTC 17.3N 139.3E FAIR
MOVE W 08KT
PRES 1002HPA
MXWD 030KT
GUST 045KT
FORECAST
24HF 230000UTC 16.4N 135.9E 120NM 70%
MOVE W 08KT
PRES 994HPA
MXWD 040KT
GUST 060KT =

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TPPN10 PGTW 220022
A. TROPICAL DEPRESSION 16W (NW OF GUAM)
B. 21/2330Z
C. 17.2N
D. 139.2E
E. FOUR/MTSAT
F. T1.0/1.5/S0.0/24HRS STT: W0.5/06HRS
G. IR/EIR/VIS/MSI
H. REMARKS: 19A/PBO XPSD LLCC/ANMTN. CNVCTN SHEARED 75NM W OF
LLCC YIELDING A DT OF 1.0. FT BASED ON DT. PT AND MET AGREE.
I. ADDITIONAL POSITIONS:
21/2006Z 17.3N 139.4E SSMI
21/2040Z 17.1N 139.6E TRMM
21/2042Z 17.0N 139.5E SSMS
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#82 Postby supercane » Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:47 pm

Interesting that JMA chose to keep writing advisories on this and stop with 17W, even though 17W at least has a clear (albeit exposed) circulation and this does not.
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TXPN26 KNES 220329
SIMWIR
A. 16W (NONAME)
B. 22/0257Z
C. 17.4N
D. 138.4E
E. FIVE/MTSAT
F. T1.0/1.5/W0.5/12HRS
G. IR/EIR/VIS
H. REMARKS...PBO EXTRAPOLATION. SYSTEM TOO WEAK TO CLASSIFY. FT BASED
ON CONSTRAINTS.
I. ADDL POSITIONS
NIL
...EARLE
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#83 Postby RobWESTPACWX » Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:22 pm

You know I admit when I'm wrong, and I may be wrong more and more about this storm. LOL Could be a weak typhoon in the long run. To note the longer it stays weak though, (TS OR BELOW BASICALLY) The farther West it will track.
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#84 Postby Typhoon Hunter » Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:59 am

Shear seems to be dropping of a lot in front of this system and JMA weather maps show a STS in 48 hours. I'll be keeping a very close eye on this for obvious reasons if it tracks more to the west.
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#85 Postby StormingB81 » Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:01 am

ecmwf looks a little bit odd like hsowing the storms only in a couple of frames towards the end....seems like that track though keeps getting closer to Okinawa.
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#86 Postby RobWESTPACWX » Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:03 am

NGPS is really developing this storm as well, I know it hasent been the greatest model but ya... still just looking at the sat shot I haft to go hmmm, I dont know about this one.
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Re: WPAC: TROPICAL DEPRESSION (16W)

#87 Postby StormingB81 » Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:11 am

Looks like it will be to the east of Okinawa as of right now...

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#88 Postby Chacor » Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:21 am

WTPQ21 RJTD 221200
RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVISORY
NAME TD
ANALYSIS
PSTN 221200UTC 17.0N 137.3E POOR
MOVE W 09KT
PRES 1004HPA
MXWD 030KT
GUST 045KT
FORECAST
24HF 231200UTC 17.3N 134.4E 120NM 70%
MOVE W 07KT
PRES 998HPA
MXWD 035KT
GUST 050KT =
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Re: WPAC: TROPICAL DEPRESSION (16W)

#89 Postby dexterlabio » Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:23 am

IMO this could have a "better" future once it tracks westwards continuously throughout the Philippine Sea, given the low vws on the area and high sst, but thank goodness that this will be steered towards the north though. :lol:
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Re: WPAC: TROPICAL DEPRESSION (16W)

#90 Postby RobWESTPACWX » Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:53 am

Okinawa still in the Cone, wouldn't be surprised if COR III goes up for Kadena, just as a cautionary measure.

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#91 Postby Grifforzer » Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:30 pm

SUBJECT: Tropical Depression In Sea East Of The Philippines

At 3:00 AM JST, Tropical Depression (1004 hPa) located at 17.0N 136.5E has 10 minute sustained winds of 30 knots with gusts of 45 knots. The depression is reported as moving west at 7 knots

Dvorak Intensity: T1.5

Forecast and Intensity
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24 HRS: 17.6N 133.3E - 35 knots (CAT 1/Tropical Storm)

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WTPQ21 RJTD 221800
RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVISORY
NAME TD
ANALYSIS
PSTN 221800UTC 17.0N 136.5E POOR
MOVE W 07KT
PRES 1004HPA
MXWD 030KT
GUST 045KT
FORECAST
24HF 231800UTC 17.6N 133.3E 120NM 70%
MOVE W 08KT
PRES 998HPA
MXWD 035KT
GUST 050KT
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#92 Postby StormingB81 » Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:47 pm

This is going ot be close depends how long it travels west far before starting to make that turn..if it gets to the 130 Okinawa may have to watch it even more..
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#93 Postby supercane » Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:01 pm

WTPN32 PGTW 222100
MSGID/GENADMIN/NAVMARFCSTCEN PEARL HARBOR HI/JTWC//
SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING//
RMKS/
1. TROPICAL DEPRESSION 16W (SIXTEEN) WARNING NR 006
03 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONES IN NORTHWESTPAC
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
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WARNING POSITION:
221800Z --- NEAR 17.2N 136.5E
MOVEMENT PAST SIX HOURS - 270 DEGREES AT 09 KTS
POSITION ACCURATE TO WITHIN 060 NM
POSITION BASED ON CENTER LOCATED BY SATELLITE
PRESENT WIND DISTRIBUTION:
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 025 KT, GUSTS 035 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
REPEAT POSIT: 17.2N 136.5E
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FORECASTS:
12 HRS, VALID AT:
230600Z --- 17.2N 135.1E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 025 KT, GUSTS 035 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
VECTOR TO 24 HR POSIT: 275 DEG/ 06 KTS
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24 HRS, VALID AT:
231800Z --- 17.3N 133.8E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 030 KT, GUSTS 040 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
VECTOR TO 36 HR POSIT: 290 DEG/ 05 KTS
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36 HRS, VALID AT:
240600Z --- 17.6N 132.9E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 035 KT, GUSTS 045 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
VECTOR TO 48 HR POSIT: 300 DEG/ 05 KTS
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EXTENDED OUTLOOK:
48 HRS, VALID AT:
241800Z --- 18.1N 132.0E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 040 KT, GUSTS 050 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 040 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
040 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
040 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 72 HR POSIT: 320 DEG/ 04 KTS
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72 HRS, VALID AT:
251800Z --- 19.2N 131.0E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 055 KT, GUSTS 070 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 025 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
025 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 080 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
075 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
070 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
080 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 96 HR POSIT: 345 DEG/ 05 KTS
---
LONG RANGE OUTLOOK:
NOTE...ERRORS FOR TRACK HAVE AVERAGED NEAR 250 NM
ON DAY 4 AND 350 NM ON DAY 5... AND FOR INTENSITY
NEAR 20 KT EACH DAY.
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96 HRS, VALID AT:
261800Z --- 21.0N 130.5E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 060 KT, GUSTS 075 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
VECTOR TO 120 HR POSIT: 360 DEG/ 06 KTS
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120 HRS, VALID AT:
271800Z --- 23.3N 130.5E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 070 KT, GUSTS 085 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
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REMARKS:
222100Z POSITION NEAR 17.2N 136.2E.
TROPICAL DEPRESSION (TD) 16W, LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 735 NM SOUTHEAST
OF KADENA, HAS TRACKED WESTWARD AT 09 KNOTS OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS.
ANIMATED INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS INCREASED CONVECTION
SHEARED 80NM TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER
(LLCC). THERE IS LOW CONFIDENCE IN THE INITIAL POSITION, WHICH WAS
BASED ON AN UNORGANIZED LLCC DEPICTED IN A 221723Z AMSU MICROWAVE
IMAGE. THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS BASED ON PGTW AND RJTD DVORAK
ESTIMATES OF 25 KNOTS. UPPER LEVEL ANALYSIS INDICATES THE LLCC IS
LOCATED IN AN AREA OF MODERATE VERTICAL WIND SHEAR AND SUBSIDENCE
INDUCED BY A TROPICAL UPPER TROPOSPHERIC TROUGH (TUTT) CELL. TD 16W
IS CURRENTLY TRACKING ALONG THE SOUTHERN PERIPHERY OF A LOW- TO MID-
LEVEL SUBTROPICAL RIDGE (STR) TO THE NORTH AND IS EXPECTED TO
CONTINUE TRACKING WESTWARD OVER THE NEXT 36 TO 48 HOURS. AFTER TAU
48, AN UPPER LEVEL MID-LATITUDE TROUGH IS EXPECTED TO WEAKEN THE STR
AND CAUSE TD 16W TO TRACK POLEWARD. AS THE TUTT CELL CONTINUES TO
MOVE WESTWARD AND VERTICAL WIND SHEAR AND SUBSIDENCE CONSEQUENTLY
RELAX, THE SYSTEM SHOULD BEGIN TO CONSISTENTLY INTENSIFY.
ADDITIONALLY, POLEWARD OUTFLOW INTO THE UPPER LEVEL TROUGH SHOULD
INCREASE BY TAU 72 AND INCREASE THE INTENSIFICATION RATE. THERE IS
SPREAD IN THE MODELS WITH NOGAPS, GFS, AND ECMWF TRACKING THE SYSTEM
MORE POLEWARD DUE TO A DEEPER MID-LATITUDE TROUGH. THE GFDN AND JGSM
MODELS CONTINUE TRACKING TD 16W WESTWARD ALONG A STRONGER STR. THIS
FORECAST IS IN AGREEMENT WITH THE MODELS TRACKING MORE POLEWARD
GIVEN THE EXPECTATION OF A DEEPER MID-LATITUDE TROUGH. MAXIMUM
SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT AT 221800Z IS 13 FEET. NEXT WARNINGS AT
230300Z, 230900Z, 231500Z AND 232100Z. REFER TO TYPHOON 15W (MEGI)
WARNINGS (WTPN31 PGTW) FOR SIX-HOURLY UPDATES. REFER TO TROPICAL
DEPRESSION 17W (SEVENTEEN) WARNINGS (WTPN33 PGTW)FOR SIX-HOURLY
UPDATES.//
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#94 Postby StormingB81 » Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:55 pm

SO basically if it doesnt turn by tomorrow night Okinawa has to watch it even more..even still I think it will only be a minimal storm IF it does come here. However Okinawa has had 87 Inches of rain YTD so flooding clould be a bigger issue then the wind...


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#95 Postby supercane » Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:03 pm

WTPN32 PGTW 230300
MSGID/GENADMIN/NAVMARFCSTCEN PEARL HARBOR HI/JTWC//
SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING//
RMKS/
1. TROPICAL DEPRESSION 16W (SIXTEEN) WARNING NR 007
03 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONES IN NORTHWESTPAC
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
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WARNING POSITION:
230000Z --- NEAR 16.1N 135.2E
MOVEMENT PAST SIX HOURS - 255 DEGREES AT 09 KTS
POSITION ACCURATE TO WITHIN 060 NM
POSITION BASED ON CENTER LOCATED BY SATELLITE
PRESENT WIND DISTRIBUTION:
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 025 KT, GUSTS 035 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
REPEAT POSIT: 16.1N 135.2E
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FORECASTS:
12 HRS, VALID AT:
231200Z --- 16.2N 133.9E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 025 KT, GUSTS 035 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
VECTOR TO 24 HR POSIT: 280 DEG/ 05 KTS
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24 HRS, VALID AT:
240000Z --- 16.4N 132.8E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 030 KT, GUSTS 040 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
VECTOR TO 36 HR POSIT: 295 DEG/ 05 KTS
---
36 HRS, VALID AT:
241200Z --- 16.8N 131.9E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 035 KT, GUSTS 045 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
VECTOR TO 48 HR POSIT: 305 DEG/ 04 KTS
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EXTENDED OUTLOOK:
48 HRS, VALID AT:
250000Z --- 17.3N 131.2E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 040 KT, GUSTS 050 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 040 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
035 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 72 HR POSIT: 330 DEG/ 04 KTS
---
72 HRS, VALID AT:
260000Z --- 18.6N 130.4E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 055 KT, GUSTS 070 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 025 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
025 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 080 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
075 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
070 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
080 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 96 HR POSIT: 355 DEG/ 05 KTS
---
LONG RANGE OUTLOOK:
NOTE...ERRORS FOR TRACK HAVE AVERAGED NEAR 250 NM
ON DAY 4 AND 350 NM ON DAY 5... AND FOR INTENSITY
NEAR 20 KT EACH DAY.
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96 HRS, VALID AT:
270000Z --- 20.5N 130.2E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 060 KT, GUSTS 075 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
VECTOR TO 120 HR POSIT: 360 DEG/ 06 KTS
---
120 HRS, VALID AT:
280000Z --- 23.0N 130.2E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 070 KT, GUSTS 085 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
---
REMARKS:
230300Z POSITION NEAR 16.1N 134.9E.
MAXIMUM SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT AT 230000Z IS 15 FEET.
TROPICAL DEPRESSION (TD) 16W, LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 730 NM SOUTHEAST
OF KADENA, HAS TRACKED WESTWARD AT 09 KNOTS OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS.
NEXT WARNINGS AT 230900Z, 231500Z, 232100Z AND 240300Z. REFER TO
TYPHOON 15W (MEGI) WARNINGS (WTPN31 PGTW)FOR SIX-HOURLY UPDATES.
REFER TO TROPICAL DEPRESSION 17W (SEVENTEEN) WARNINGS (WTPN33 PGTW)
FOR SIX-HOURLY UPDATES.//
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Re: WPAC: TROPICAL DEPRESSION (16W)

#96 Postby Extratropical94 » Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:11 am

Latest JTWC Warning (5:00 am, #08)

WTPN32 PGTW 230900
MSGID/GENADMIN/NAVMARFCSTCEN PEARL HARBOR HI/JTWC//
SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING//
RMKS/
1. TROPICAL DEPRESSION 16W (SIXTEEN) WARNING NR 008
03 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONES IN NORTHWESTPAC
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
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WARNING POSITION:
230600Z --- NEAR 16.2N 133.7E
MOVEMENT PAST SIX HOURS - 275 DEGREES AT 14 KTS
POSITION ACCURATE TO WITHIN 060 NM
POSITION BASED ON CENTER LOCATED BY A COMBINATION OF
SATELLITE AND EXTRAPOLATION
PRESENT WIND DISTRIBUTION:
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 025 KT, GUSTS 035 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
REPEAT POSIT: 16.2N 133.7E
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FORECASTS:
12 HRS, VALID AT:
231800Z --- 16.4N 132.5E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 025 KT, GUSTS 035 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
VECTOR TO 24 HR POSIT: 290 DEG/ 05 KTS
---
24 HRS, VALID AT:
240600Z --- 16.7N 131.5E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 030 KT, GUSTS 040 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
VECTOR TO 36 HR POSIT: 305 DEG/ 05 KTS
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36 HRS, VALID AT:
241800Z --- 17.2N 130.7E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 035 KT, GUSTS 045 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
VECTOR TO 48 HR POSIT: 320 DEG/ 04 KTS
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EXTENDED OUTLOOK:
48 HRS, VALID AT:
250600Z --- 17.8N 130.2E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 040 KT, GUSTS 050 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 040 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
035 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 72 HR POSIT: 340 DEG/ 03 KTS
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72 HRS, VALID AT:
260600Z --- 19.1N 129.7E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 055 KT, GUSTS 070 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 025 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
025 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 090 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
085 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
075 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
080 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 96 HR POSIT: 355 DEG/ 05 KTS
---
LONG RANGE OUTLOOK:
NOTE...ERRORS FOR TRACK HAVE AVERAGED NEAR 250 NM
ON DAY 4 AND 350 NM ON DAY 5... AND FOR INTENSITY
NEAR 20 KT EACH DAY.
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96 HRS, VALID AT:
270600Z --- 21.2N 129.6E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 060 KT, GUSTS 075 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
VECTOR TO 120 HR POSIT: 010 DEG/ 07 KTS
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120 HRS, VALID AT:
280600Z --- 23.9N 130.1E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 070 KT, GUSTS 085 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
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REMARKS:
230900Z POSITION NEAR 16.2N 133.4E.
TROPICAL DEPRESSION (TD) 16W, LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 685 NM
SOUTHEAST OF OKINAWA, JAPAN, HAS TRACKED WESTWARD AT 14 KNOTS OVER
THE PAST SIX HOURS. ANIMATED MULTISPECTRAL SATELLITE IMAGERY AND A
230459Z SSMIS MICROWAVE IMAGE SHOW A BROAD, ILL-DEFINED LOW LEVEL
CIRCULATION CENTER (LLCC) THAT IS EAST OF THE MAIN CONVECTION. THE
INITIAL POSITION IS BASED ON THE SSMIS IMAGE WITH LOW CONFIDENCE. THE
INITIAL INTENSITY IS BASED ON RJTD AND PGTW DVORAK INTENSITY
ESTIMATES OF 25 KNOTS. UPPER LEVEL ANALYSIS INDICATES THE LLCC IS
LOCATED IN AN AREA OF MODERATE VERTICAL WIND SHEAR AND SUBSIDENCE TO
THE NORTH INDUCED BY A TROPICAL UPPER TROPOSPHERIC TROUGH (TUTT).
TD 16W IS CURRENTLY TRACKING ALONG THE SOUTHERN PERIPHERY OF
A LOW- TO MID-LEVEL SUBTROPICAL RIDGE (STR) TO THE NORTH AND IS
EXPECTED TO CONTINUE TRACKING WESTWARD OVER THE NEXT 12 TO 36
HOURS. AFTER TAU 36, AN UPPER LEVEL MID-LATITUDE TROUGH IS EXPECTED
TO WEAKEN THE STR AND CAUSE TD 16W TO TRACK POLEWARD. AS THE TUTT
CELL CONTINUES TO MOVE WESTWARD AND ALLOWS VERTICAL WIND SHEAR AND
SUBSIDENCE TO CONSEQUENTLY RELAX, THE SYSTEM SHOULD BEGIN TO
STEADILY INTENSIFY. AS TD 16W INTENSIFIES, IT IS EXPECTED TO TRACK
POLEWARD ALONG THE WESTERN PERIPHERY OF A MID-LEVEL STEERING RIDGE.
POLEWARD OUTFLOW INTO THE UPPER LEVEL TROUGH SHOULD INCREASE BY TAU
60 AND INCREASE THE INTENSIFICATION RATE. THE MODELS CONTINUE TO SHOW
UNCERTAINTY AS THEY ARE SPREAD IN THE TIMING OF THE POLEWARD TURN.
NOGAPS, GFS, UKMO, AND ECMWF MODELS ARE TRACKING THE SYSTEM
POLEWARD. THE GFDN AND JGSM MODELS ARE OUTLIERS AND ERRONEOUSLY
TRACK TD 16W WESTWARD ALONG A STRONGER STR. THIS FORECAST IS IN
AGREEMENT WITH THE MODELS TRACKING MORE POLEWARD GIVEN THE
EXPECTATION OF A DEEPER MID-LATITUDE TROUGH. ADDITIONALLY, THERE IS
UNCERTAINTY IN THE LATER TAUS OF THE INTENSITY FORECAST. THIS IS DUE
TO AN EXPECTED COLD SURGE ORIGINATING OVER NORTHERN CHINA, WHICH MAY
INCREASE VERTICAL WIND SHEAR IN THE LATER TAUS AND CAUSE THE SYSTEM
TO INTENSIFY LESS THAN PREVIOUSLY PREDICTED. MAXIMUM SIGNIFICANT WAVE
HEIGHT AT 230600Z IS 15 FEET. NEXT WARNINGS AT 231500Z, 232100Z,
240300Z AND 240900Z. REFER TO TROPICAL DEPRESSION 17W (SEVENTEEN)
WARNINGS (WTPN33 PGTW) FOR SIX-HOURLY UPDATES. REFER TO TROPICAL
STORM 15W (MEGI) WARNINGS (WTPN31 PGTW) FOR THE FINAL WARNING ON THAT
SYSTEM.//
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#97 Postby StormingB81 » Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:52 am

so niw it moved SW what should that do with the track
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Re: WPAC: TROPICAL DEPRESSION (16W)

#98 Postby RobWESTPACWX » Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:03 am

Might move it a little farther W, not sure, what do you think?

I also wanted to share this here, my thoughts on the track for this storm
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#99 Postby StormingB81 » Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:34 am

I am thinking more and more we have to watch this system and NOGAPS has it commign RIGHT NEXT to us now!
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#100 Postby RobWESTPACWX » Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:38 am

And NGPS is turning it in to a pretty deep storm, when GFS jumps on board though I will believe this more and more
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