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ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#1 Postby tolakram » Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:44 pm

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#2 Postby AdamFirst » Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:47 pm

This one came out of left field.
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Re: ATL: 94L INVEST - Discussion

#3 Postby Florida1118 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:48 pm

SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS OVER THE SOUTHERN CARIBBEAN SEA OFF THE
COAST OF COLOMBIA AND PANAMA ARE ASSOCIATED WITH A BROAD AREA OF
LOW PRESSURE. CONDITIONS APPEAR FAVORABLE FOR SOME DEVELOPMENT OF
THIS SYSTEM OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS AS IT DRIFTS SLOWLY
WESTWARD OR WEST-NORTHWESTWARD. THERE IS A MEDIUM CHANCE...30
PERCENT
...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

Looks fine for development. So now we have 2 more to greek, as V seems likely.
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#4 Postby tolakram » Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:55 pm

AdamFirst wrote:This one came out of left field.


Not really, or did I miss the sarcasm? :)

The reliable models have been predicting development down here for nearly a week now, in particular the GFS.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#5 Postby Vortex » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:06 pm

Here we go.....
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#6 Postby cycloneye » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:11 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#7 Postby GCANE » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:21 pm

Been building really nicely on WV this morning.

http://www.goes.noaa.gov/HURRLOOPS/huwvloop.html
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#8 Postby MGC » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:25 pm

Convection has really increased since yesterday....we'll have to see if this trend continues......MGC
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#9 Postby GCANE » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:28 pm

ASCAT this morning.

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#10 Postby dwsqos2 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:31 pm

So, we have a totally boring disturbance getting smacked around by some southeasterlies.

In response to someone from the other thread:

When I say shear, I mean in the future; look at gfs progs. Actually, I also mean in the present.

And, I'm sorry, but it isn't exactly encouraging that the Euro has nothing but a weak low; really the gfs isn't much stronger.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#11 Postby Ntxw » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:33 pm

I think it's possible this one might get a name! Though water heat content won't likely support a major or a big storm...

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#12 Postby Macrocane » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:46 pm

dwsqos2 wrote:So, we have a totally boring disturbance getting smacked around by some southeasterlies.

In response to someone from the other thread:

When I say shear, I mean in the future; look at gfs progs. Actually, I also mean in the present.

And, I'm sorry, but it isn't exactly encouraging that the Euro has nothing but a weak low; really the gfs isn't much stronger.


I don't want to sound offensive but, why are you always so skeptical about the development of tropical cyclones? You were skeptical with Richard, Tomas and Paula to name a few.

By the way, I beleive it has a good chance to develop into a tropical storm, conditions seems to be conducive for that though a hurricane is less likely.
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#13 Postby Ntxw » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:49 pm

Macrocane wrote:
dwsqos2 wrote:So, we have a totally boring disturbance getting smacked around by some southeasterlies.

In response to someone from the other thread:

When I say shear, I mean in the future; look at gfs progs. Actually, I also mean in the present.

And, I'm sorry, but it isn't exactly encouraging that the Euro has nothing but a weak low; really the gfs isn't much stronger.


I don't want to sound offensive but, why are you always so skeptical about the development of tropical cyclones? You were skeptical with Richard, Tomas and Paula to name a few.


The poster likes taking a conservative approach, 'I'll believe it when I see it'. Just as there are a few who believes every invest becomes a major. Off topic. I do think the best spot for this to finally go is CA.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#14 Postby Macrocane » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:52 pm

Yeah, Central America seems to be the final destination of 94L, that's one of the reasons against a stronger system too close to land and not much time over water.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#15 Postby Evil Jeremy » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:52 pm

I knew something like this would happen. I have a Western Caribbean cruise booked for next Saturday lol. Any idea on where this one should be going?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#16 Postby Macrocane » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:53 pm

According to some models it will head towards Central America, other models show a Cuba landfall, I guess it depends on the strength of the system.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#17 Postby MGC » Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:33 pm

9 times out of 10 I am against development of a TC this early. Odds do favor against development this time of the year. On average we only see a TC one out of two seasons in Nov. Odds to seem to be increasing for 94L though. There is a large amount of dry air to the north of the disturbance, but I've seen cyclones form in similar situations......MGC
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#18 Postby GCANE » Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:59 pm

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#19 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:15 pm

The poster likes taking a conservative approach, 'I'll believe it when I see it'. Just as there are a few who believes every invest becomes a major. Off topic. I do think the best spot for this to finally go is CA.



There is a very clearcut difference between conservative and immoderate downcasting. Just my frank opinion.



Anywho, I am completely shocked by this activity I feel like we must be the WPAC or something. 94L looks to be in a good place to potentially score the coveted V name but IMO even if it didnt develop we would still get the V storm eventually. I am not so certain we will go greek though...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion

#20 Postby GCANE » Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:34 pm

Getting a lot of popup afternoon thunderstorms over Columbia due to solar heating of the landmass.

A great indication of the instability of the air there.

That air should feed into 94L and keep convection going.

In fact, I just ran a HYSPLIT trajectory analysis for a parcel initialized at 10N 75W.

Results show very strong ascent into the LLC.


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