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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#41 Postby Huracan Gorges » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:50 am

happy Labor Day........bout finally a see something big from Africa.......and with progress to the Atlantic......defeinlly keping a Close Eye......Action....and Active :wink:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#42 Postby Jimsot » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:51 am

pricetag56 wrote:maria just has that name hurricane maria it sounds serious.



It could just as well be NATE. NATE sounds like a loser to me, skip the Islands and go fishing.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#43 Postby StarmanHDB » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:51 am

RL3AO wrote:I was actually able to track the 850mb vort which stays very weak into the Bahamas and then into S Florida, maybe developing in the final 24 hours.


A very sarcastic (hopefully unnecessary) "wonderful". UCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCH!
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#44 Postby painkillerr » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:03 am

"Maria to be" has a low latitude (below 10N). And tracking west under the ridge could spell problems for the Caribbean. I'm watching this one closely.
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#45 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:05 am

painkillerr wrote:"Maria to be" has a low latitude (below 10N). And tracking west under the ridge could spell problems for the Caribbean. I'm watching this one closely.


Yeah the Caribbean seriously needs to watch this one.
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#46 Postby Time_Zone » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:07 am

Models dont seem to like this wave too much...at all really.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#47 Postby HurricaneFan » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:16 am

What about the strong shear affecting the wave to the NW of it?Wouldn't it affect 95L in the near future and possibly kill it?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#48 Postby Florida1118 » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:19 am

HurricaneFan wrote:What about the strong shear affecting the wave to the NW of it?Wouldn't it affect 95L in the near future and possibly kill it?

No, because this is moving westward and the shear is to the N/NW. So it is fine from shear for now
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#49 Postby Mouton » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:20 am

Pretty far south...does it even make it?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#50 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:21 am

The TAFB 12z surface analysis adds a low.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#51 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:21 am

Could be like every other slow developer we have seen so far. Which would be the worse scenario given the ridging is lookling to be really strong across the entire atlantic. Things could surely change, have a long time to watch, but has the potential to be a big one for at least the islands. Will not even speculate where this could gofrom there because almost every possibility is on the table after that.
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#52 Postby northjaxpro » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:22 am

It may take awhile for 95L to fully detach itself from the ITCZ, but once it does, I see no hindrances to handicap this system down the road to develop.
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#53 Postby gatorcane » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:27 am

Look at that nice Bermuda High there on 06Z GFS, 144 hours. We haven't seen that since probably the middle of July. Would certainly block 95L from recurving.

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The GFS also has support from the ECMWF on a strong Bermuda High ridge in the long-range, in fact on the ECMWF 00Z 168 hours, it bridges with the Azores High which would prevent 95L from recurving:

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Remarkably, both models have very similar upper air patterns in the medium to long-range
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#54 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:30 am

NOGAPS likes it a little bit. Here was the 00z run.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/ngptc2.c ... =Animation
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#55 Postby bella_may » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:32 am

Looks like the gulf coast will have another one to watch
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#56 Postby gatorcane » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:35 am

bella_may wrote:Looks like the gulf coast will have another one to watch


Too early to say right now but the upper air pattern across the Atlantic as progged by the GFS and ECMWF look like 95L is not going to recurve east of the Leewards, not to mention 95L is at a very low lattitude. After that, looks like things are a bit up in the air right now. In fact both these models are showing some kind of large cutoff mid to upper-level low that develops over the Central/Eastern United States that creates a big break in the ridge over the GOM/Florida/Bahamas.

Of course, 95L may not even develop until it gets much farther west as models don't seem too bullish right now (that can change though).
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#57 Postby HurricaneFan » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:35 am

But what are the models seeing to not develop this much?I mean,a number of waves they had developing early and it didn't happen,so why aren't they developing this wave sooner?
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#58 Postby fci » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:56 am

This time, no calls on Page 1-2-3 for a recurve or fish like for Katia.
Models this time look like this could be a low runner for a while...........
I guess we were all kind of bored (NOT!!) after Lee went away and Katia decided that she indeed wanted to be a fish after all.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#59 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:08 am

12z GFS has a low pressure in less than 72 hours. It didn't had that at 00z.

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#60 Postby Vortex » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:11 am

Very robust circulation...
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