ATL: INVEST 94L - DISCUSSION

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - DISCUSSION

#581 Postby Ptarmigan » Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:37 pm

Invest 94L came back to life. :ggreen:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - DISCUSSION

#582 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:17 pm

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looks like a slice of pizza! shear is ripping it apart
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#583 Postby Recurve » Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:06 am

How does all this weather keep missing Florida? We've had 30 seconds of sprinkles from this mess. Maybe tomorrow.
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#584 Postby Bobo2000 » Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:45 am

Looks nearly stationary. Invest 94L is struggling, but is putting up a fight.


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#585 Postby KWT » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:29 am

Amazed the NHC even bothered to make this 94L again, its only the shear that is pumping the convection up in the first place it seems
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - DISCUSSION

#586 Postby GCANE » Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:48 am

PV anomaly is relatively low with max winds at the surface.

Temp anomaly is 1C and at a lower altitude than a typical symmetry warm core.

No boundary layer inversion, so with the heavy shear, MCS-type convection should continue to fire.

Classic Sub Trop system.




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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - DISCUSSION

#587 Postby GCANE » Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:07 am

Surface pressure at Settlement Point, Grand Bahama Island



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#588 Postby NDG » Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:19 am

Yeap, 94L looks like crap, the area of lowest pressure is fairly much naked again. The only thing I see it becoming is, like global models show, into a strong extratropical system in the NW Atlantic as the mid level energy keeps moving NE.
However, the moisture in the low levels keeps moving little by little into the general area of the FL Peninsula.
With the ULL in the eastern GOM it might be enough for widespread showers and storms to spread across the Peninsula this weekend, hopefully.

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#589 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:31 am

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#590 Postby NDG » Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:39 am

I had not noticed the surface pressure at Nassau this morning, which is down to 1010 mb, down 5 mb in 24 hrs, much lower than the sourounding areas. I thought that lowest surface pressures were still south of Cuba.
And looking at the first vis sat loop, there appears to be a surface vorticity near that Island or northern Andros Island. Just an area of interest at this point, most likely it will happen the same thing in which a LLC is trying to develop here but eventually it will get sheared away with the surface vorticity get left behind and the mid level energy keep moving to the NE.
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#591 Postby NDG » Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:58 am

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#592 Postby NDG » Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:52 am

Definite weak LLC just coming out of northern Andros Island, but already loosing its convection.

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#593 Postby SouthDadeFish » Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:54 am

This thing would have a chance if it wasn't under 60 knots of shear....
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#594 Postby tailgater » Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:55 am

NDG wrote:I had not noticed the surface pressure at Nassau this morning, which is down to 1010 mb, down 5 mb in 24 hrs, much lower than the sourounding areas. I thought that lowest surface pressures were still south of Cuba.
And looking at the first vis sat loop, there appears to be a surface vorticity near that Island or northern Andros Island. Just an area of interest at this point, most likely it will happen the same thing in which a LLC is trying to develop here but eventually it will get sheared away with the surface vorticity get left behind and the mid level energy keep moving to the NE.


Yeah I also saw see the rotation in the lower cloud field on the first visible pics this morning right over Nassau. Ihe next TWO should point out this area in more detail. IMHO
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - DISCUSSION

#595 Postby Blown Away » Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:58 am

All that rain is so close but yet so far!! My plants and grass are screaming!!
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#596 Postby NDG » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:01 am

Surface conditions at Nassau Int'l airport agrees with sat indicated LLC just to its west, reporting SSE wind, pressure steady at 1010 mb, still 5 mb lower than 24 hrs ago.
Funny thing that surface plots do not show surface pressures anywhere close to 1010mb.

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METAR text:  MYNN 101400Z 15007KT 9999 -RA BKN012 BKN015TCU OVC120 27/26 A2984 
Conditions at:  MYNN (NASSAU INTL , BS) observed 1400 UTC 10 June 2011 
Temperature:  27.0°C (81°F) 
Dewpoint:  26.0°C (79°F) [RH = 94%] 
Pressure (altimeter):  29.84 inches Hg (1010.6 mb) 
Winds:  from the SSE (150 degrees) at 8 MPH (7 knots; 3.6 m/s) 
Visibility:  6 or more miles (10+ km) 
Ceiling:  1200 feet AGL 
Clouds:  broken clouds at 1200 feet AGL
broken clouds at 1500 feet AGL
overcast cloud deck at 12000 feet AGL 
Weather:  -RA  (light rain) 
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#597 Postby NDG » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:20 am

SouthDadeFish wrote:This thing would have a chance if it wasn't under 60 knots of shear....


Actually, Nassau's 12z sounding shows 40-50 knots of shear between H30 & H20, not that is much better. The LLC will have to get moving quick to the NE if it wants to keep up with convection, mid level SW shear is around 15-20 knots, pushing the convection NE.
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#598 Postby x-y-no » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:29 am

There's zero sign of the proximity of this system here in Ft. Lauderdale. I'm afraid we're going to get precious little of that promised rain.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - DISCUSSION

#599 Postby SouthFloridawx » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:49 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L - DISCUSSION

#600 Postby GCANE » Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:29 am

Pretty good environment just north of DR.



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