EPAC: ADRIAN - Tropical Depression

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Re: EPAC: ADRIAN - Hurricane

#161 Postby Ptarmigan » Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:55 pm

I knew Adrian would be a major hurricane.
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#162 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:57 pm

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Latest .. very impressive
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Re: EPAC: ADRIAN - Hurricane

#163 Postby Macrocane » Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:05 pm

It looks like it is still intensifying, if it reaches category five it would be a very rare occurrence, 2 Junes in a row with cat 5's.
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Re: EPAC: ADRIAN - Hurricane

#164 Postby Hurricane Jed » Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:09 pm

Macrocane wrote:It looks like it is still intensifying, if it reaches category five it would be a very rare occurrence, 2 Junes in a row with cat 5's.

Not to mention a Category 5 hurricane 3 straight years.
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#165 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:57 pm

Looks to be about 125 kt right now. My guess for the pressure is 941mb.
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#166 Postby Bobo2000 » Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:34 am

For right now I think it's at 130-135 knots. It probably will reach a high end Category 4, but maybe not Category 5.


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Re: EPAC: ADRIAN - Hurricane

#167 Postby arkestra » Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:53 am

It looks the Pacific has more annular hurricanes than the Atlantic:
2006: Daniel
2008: Felicia
2011: Adrian

The last annular hurricane in Atlantic is supposed to be
2005: Epsilon
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#168 Postby KWT » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:29 am

It looks very impressive right now, looks a high end cat-4 to me at the moment, say 130kts.
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#169 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:36 am

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wow, very impressive microwave image
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Re: EPAC: ADRIAN - Hurricane

#170 Postby leanne_uk » Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:36 am

Wow what a stunning system!
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#171 Postby Chacor » Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:49 am

Will be interesting to see what the 12z ATCF does. Looks like it may have strengthened since the last advisory. Eye seems to be more symmetrical and slightly smaller.
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#172 Postby Chacor » Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:03 am

For the record on annularity, here are the official criteria for a storm to pass the screening stage of the objective annular hurricane index. If a storm passes all the requirements, annularity is assessed by the forecaster.

Storm intensity (NHC analysis) greater than 84 kt.
Sea-surface temperatures greater than 24.3°C but less than 29.1°C.
Vertical shear (NCEP analysis) is less than 21.97 kt.
200 hPa winds (NCEP analysis) less than 2.92 kt positive vector; greater than 22.94 kt negative vector
Flux convergence (NCEP analysis) greater than 9 m/second-day negative vector; less than 11 m/second-day positive vector (where 1 m/s-day = 0.0000115740741 m / s-2)
Eye radius (sat imagery) greater than 50 km
Eye temperature (sat imagery) greater than 15°C.

http://www.ofcm.gov/ihc07/Presentations ... macher.ppt

Whilst having no rainbands is listed as a typical characteristic, it is actually not a requirement for annularity.
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Re: EPAC: ADRIAN - Hurricane

#173 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:34 am

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#174 Postby Chacor » Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:59 am

Officially, ATCF best-track shows that Adrian weakened 2 hPa since 06z, no change in winds.

EP, 01, 2011061012, , BEST, 0, 152N, 1072W, 120, 948, HU, 34, NEQ, 80, 80, 70, 80, 1008, 180, 20, 0, 0, E, 0, , 0, 0, ADRIAN, D,
EP, 01, 2011061012, , BEST, 0, 152N, 1072W, 120, 948, HU, 50, NEQ, 50, 50, 40, 50, 1008, 180, 20, 0, 0, E, 0, , 0, 0, ADRIAN, D,
EP, 01, 2011061012, , BEST, 0, 152N, 1072W, 120, 948, HU, 64, NEQ, 25, 25, 20, 25, 1008, 180, 20, 0, 0, E, 0, , 0, 0, ADRIAN, D,
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#175 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:38 am

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Impressive water vapor image
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Re: EPAC: ADRIAN - Hurricane

#176 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:00 am

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very impressive
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#177 Postby Cyclenall » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:15 am

CrazyC83 wrote:Looks to be about 125 kt right now. My guess for the pressure is 941mb.

I agree with this intensity.

Chalk up another annular hurricane for the Epac huh? I wasn't expecting it but the fact its the first named system of the season and annular is interesting. Isn't this the first "first" named storm of the Epac season to reach CAT4 strength since Hurricane Adolph of 2001?

For the record on annularity, here are the official criteria for a storm to pass the screening stage of the objective annular hurricane index. If a storm passes all the requirements, annularity is assessed by the forecaster.

Storm intensity (NHC analysis) greater than 84 kt.

I think Hurricane Epsilon put that one to bed.
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Re: EPAC: ADRIAN - Hurricane

#178 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:40 am


HURRICANE ADRIAN DISCUSSION NUMBER 13
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP012011
800 AM PDT FRI JUN 10 2011

THE CLOUD PATTERN OF THE HURRICANE STILL CONSISTS OF A DISTINCT EYE
AND A CENTRAL DENSE OVERCAST BUT THE DEEP CONVECTION SURROUNDING
THE EYE HAS DIMINISHED DURING THE PAST FEW HOURS.
CONSEQUENTLY...THE DVORAK T-NUMBERS FROM BOTH TAFB AND SAB HAVE
DECREASED...YIELDING AN INITIAL INTENSITY OF 115 KNOTS. WITH NO
EYEWALL REPLACEMENT CYCLES ANTICIPATED...THE INTERACTION OF THE
CYCLONE WITH THE STRONG SST TEMPERATURE GRADIENT WILL PROBABLY BE
THE MAIN CAUSE FOR ADRIAN TO WEAKEN AS INDICATED IN THE FORECAST.
WEAKENING COULD OCCUR FASTER THAN EXPECTED AS SUGGESTED BY SOME
MODELS LIKE THE FSU SUPERENSEMBLE AND THE ECMWF.

ADRIAN CONTINUES TO BE TRAPPED SOUTH OF THE STRONG MID-LEVEL RIDGE
OVER NORTHERN MEXICO AND IS STILL MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST
OR 285 DEGREES AT 8 KNOTS. GLOBAL MODELS SUGGEST THAT THE STEERING
PATTERN WILL NOT CHANGE...THEREFORE...THE HURRICANE SHOULD CONTINUE
ON THE SAME GENERAL TRACK FOR THE NEXT 3 TO 4 DAYS UNTIL
DISSIPATION. IF ADRIAN REMAINS STRONGER THAN ANTICIPATED...IT COULD
ACQUIRE A MORE NORTHERLY COMPONENT ALONG THE WESTERN PERIPHERY OF
THE SUBTROPICAL HIGH BY THE END OF THE FORECAST PERIOD.
REGARDLESS...ADRIAN STILL WILL BE A WEAKENING CYCLONE MOVING OVER
COOL WATERS WELL AWAY FROM MEXICO.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 10/1500Z 15.3N 107.6W 115 KT 135 MPH
12H 11/0000Z 15.6N 109.0W 105 KT 120 MPH
24H 11/1200Z 16.0N 110.7W 90 KT 105 MPH
36H 12/0000Z 16.3N 112.0W 80 KT 90 MPH
48H 12/1200Z 16.8N 113.3W 60 KT 70 MPH
72H 13/1200Z 17.5N 114.5W 40 KT 45 MPH
96H 14/1200Z 18.5N 116.5W 25 KT 30 MPH
120H 15/1200Z 20.0N 119.0W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW

$$
FORECASTER AVILA


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#179 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:48 am

Yeah looks to have peaked. I would say peak intensity was at 0600Z and that was 125 kt.
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Re: EPAC: ADRIAN - Hurricane

#180 Postby vbhoutex » Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:40 pm

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