EPAC: HILARY - Remnants

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Re: EPAC: HILARY - Hurricane

#81 Postby Epsilon_Fan » Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:40 pm

Very impressive presentation right now, I wouldn't be surprised to wake up to a Cat 5. This ramped up like Wilma did several years ago, if not faster!

Something about these little tiny hurricanes that get so strong. Their size almost makes it easy to overlook. I remember a little tiny storm hitting Australia that was a Cat 5 but it didn't look like a classic Cat 5. There was also a little tiny one a year or two ago that hit central america after RIing before landfall. I guess these little ones can ramp up quick.

The EPac is putting the Atl. to shame with powerful storms. Luckily all of them have been fish storms up to this point.
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#82 Postby bexar » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:04 pm

It looks Cat 5 to me now :eek:

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I wonder how this storm would be referenced to Sec. Hillary Clinton :lol:

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Re: EPAC: HILARY - Hurricane

#83 Postby Macrocane » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:11 pm

The NHC tends to be more conservative in the EPAC than the Atlantic, but it really looks like it's still intensifying, maybe a cat 5 at the next intermediate.
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#84 Postby Extratropical94 » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:33 pm

They also often tend to go with Dvorak numbers, so the magical number we're waiting for is 7.0

SSD ADT currently at 6.4 with raw T's of 6.8
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#85 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:51 pm

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Atleast 155mph storm.
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Re: EPAC: HILARY - Hurricane

#86 Postby lilybeth » Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:12 am

Those visuals are amazing. I cannot believe she was just a TS what, 24 hours ago? Tiny but mighty.
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#87 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:45 am

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Cleared out again.

The show goes on all night...
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#88 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:53 am

SATELLITE IMAGES INDICATE THAT HILARY CONTINUES TO STRENGTHEN...AND
THE MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NOW ESTIMATED TO BE NEAR 145
MPH...235 KM/H...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. HILARY IS A CATEGORY
FOUR HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON HURRICANE WIND SCALE. SOME
ADDITIONAL STRENGTHENING IS POSSIBLE ON FRIDAY...WITH FLUCTUATIONS
IN INTENSITY EXPECTED OVER THE WEEKEND.
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Re: EPAC: HILARY - Hurricane

#89 Postby Cranica » Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:10 am

What's the RI record for the EPAC? This has got to be pretty close.
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Re: EPAC: HILARY - Hurricane

#90 Postby Ad Novoxium » Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:42 am

It belongs to either Elida of 2002 or Rick of 2009, because I can't remember if Rick toppled Elida's record.
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#91 Postby Chacor » Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:43 am

Absolutely stunning storm.
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#92 Postby Extratropical94 » Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:03 am

Data from 5 hours ago:
23/0545 UTC 16.0N 101.4W T6.5/6.5 HILARY -- East Pacific
That's 125 knots / 145 mph.
Could be T7.0/7.0 at 1145Z according to SSD's ADT, which would likely cause an upgrade to Cat. 5 - 140kt/160mph at 11am EDT/8am PDT.
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Re: EPAC: HILARY - Hurricane

#93 Postby Cyclenall » Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:09 am

Ok, Hurricane Hilary is officially an awesome hurricane now, look at the 9:45 UTC imagery of it...just insane and shocking. I haven't seen any hurricane look that good since Hurricane Rick in 2009 and it's starting to seem like a redux. My guess at strength is 135 knots but it could already be 140 knots which would mean another CAT5 hurricane during a La Nina! It would also mean many other things such as; The Epac having 3 consecutive years of CAT5 hurricanes, No CAT5 hurricanes in the Atlantic since 2007 but 3 in the Epac (during the negative AMO), and the models being epically wrong yet again for a Epac hurricane for its intensity (except the HWFI showing 160 knots, it could come close! 8-) ).

The NHC is coming on board and catching up to its intensity. I would personally be forecasting a category 5 hurricane at this point, I think the % chances are now 80%, up from 50% 16 hours ago. It had a perfect cyclone shape, almost like Cyclone Monica's shape from April 2006 for a time until new banding started to form around it. On AVN, a thick red CDO has completely surrounded the eye with pockets of -80C cloud tops which normally means instant CAT5 but the eye just needs some slight improvement and it's obvious. Eye size has shrunk and is two steps above what I would call a pinhole eye. After reviewing Hurricanes Rick, Celia, Dora, and Eugene in the Epac I see why some are rated stronger than Hilary currently is - Eye temperature and structure. There is way more weight on that than anything else, even if there is a huge thick CDO of very deep convection completely wrapped around a "semi-ok" eye. I kind of already knew this but I forgot just how much weight is given to the eye, apparently a lot.
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#94 Postby RL3AO » Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:21 am

Not very often you have a cat 4 this close to land with no recon.
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Re: EPAC: HILARY - Hurricane

#95 Postby RL3AO » Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:24 am

Cyclenall wrote:I kind of already knew this but I forgot just how much weight is given to the eye, apparently a lot.


The eye and eyewall is the clue to show the difference between a strong 3/weak 4 and a strong 4/5. In the latter you have a PERFECTLY round eye thats usually very warm (>0C? Just a guess) on IR with very intense convection surrounding it.

With the cat 3/weak 4 its usually a mostly round eye without as intense of convection.

According to ADT the center temp has gone from -20 to +3C in 4 hours. Only thing keeping dvorak down is the cloud tops are only -70 or so and not the -80 like they were 12 hours ago.
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#96 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:30 am

Close to D-max, convection should increase again. Eye needs to become slightly better defined.
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#97 Postby RL3AO » Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:33 am

Yellow Evan wrote: Eye needs to become slightly better defined.


I don't think it can get much better defined then it is now.
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#98 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:46 am

To quote Lixon, the satellite presentation is spectacular.
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Re: EPAC: HILARY - Hurricane

#99 Postby Blown Away » Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:54 am

What a beautiful hurricane, kinda looks like Charley.
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#100 Postby HurricaneRobert » Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:54 am

I don't know why she needs to carry that blob with her.
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