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Re: Mediterranean Sea: 01M NONAME

#81 Postby Chacor » Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:04 am

bg1 wrote:Who would be in charge of tropical storm advisories if this becomes an official basin?


There's little point in speculating, but it definitely would not be the NHC (so people complaining about why the NHC isn't doing anything, wake up!).
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Re: Mediterranean Sea: 01M NONAME

#82 Postby Cranica » Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:26 am

My guess would be Meteo France - they already do advisories in the S. Indian if memory serves, and no other European agency to my knowledge does.
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#83 Postby Crostorm » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:08 am

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#84 Postby DanieleItalyRm » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:18 am

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#85 Postby Crostorm » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:36 am

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#86 Postby DanieleItalyRm » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:57 am

Porquerolles (Costa Azzurra) 122 km/h gust (66 kts)
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#87 Postby Crostorm » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:01 pm

Wind speed at 16:30
Île du Levant (83) Alt. 130m tempête rafales 111 km⁄h de l'est vent moyen 87 km⁄h
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http://www.infoclimat.fr/meteo-alerte-temps-reel.html#
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#88 Postby DanieleItalyRm » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:04 pm

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#89 Postby Crostorm » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:20 pm

DanieleItalyRm wrote:http://viewsurf.com/vue-191-Le_Lavandou_-_Grande_Plage.html



huge waves on beach :eek:
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Re: Mediterranean Sea: 01M NONAME

#90 Postby Cryomaniac » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:26 pm

bg1 wrote:Who would be in charge of tropical storm advisories if this becomes an official basin?


Meteo France seems logical.
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#91 Postby DanieleItalyRm » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:37 pm

Porquerolles 139 km/h

look these webcam very strong wind:
look saint Claire 18h 07 e 17h 37
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http://viewsurf.com/vue-189-Le_Lavandou ... e_Mer.html
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Re: Mediterranean Sea: 01M NONAME

#92 Postby DanieleItalyRm » Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:28 pm

The low down..
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#93 Postby Chacor » Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:48 pm

TXMM21 KNES 081827
TCSMED

A. 01M (NONAME)

B. 08/1800Z

C. 42.8N

D. 6.5E

E. THREE/MET-9

F. T3.0/3.0/D0.5/24HRS

G. IR/EIR/SWIR

H. REMARKS...CONVECTION...ALBEIT RELATIVELY SHALLOW...HAS WRAPPED
ITSELF AROUND MUCH MORE OF THE CENTER THAN 6 HOURS AGO. THE INCREASED
CURVATURE MEASURES 6/10 ON THE LOG10 SPIRAL RESULTING IN A DT OF 3.0. PT
AGREES WHILE MET IS 2.5. FT IS BASED ON DT. THERE IS SOME SUGGESTION
IN RECENT MICROWAVE IMAGERY THAT THE LOW AND MID LEVEL CENTERS MAY NOT
BE VERTICALLY ALIGNED...WITH THE LOW LEVEL CENTER BEING SLIGHTLY FARTHER
TO THE SW THAN THE POSITION GIVEN ABOVE.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

NIL


...TURK
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#95 Postby Crostorm » Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:32 pm

****** Tropical storm 01M/99L ******

SUMMARY: 8th NOV. 2011, 1800 UTC
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LOCATION...42.8N 6.5E
ABOUT 61 NM...112 KM SE OF MARSEILLE
ABOUT 111 NM...205 KM WNW OF AJACCIO, CORSICA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...52 MPH...83 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...QUASI-STATIONARY
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... Around 1000 hPa

UPDATE 18 UTC: Both shear and dry air seem to have taken their toll on 01M/99L. Latest HVIS data indicated a tilted vortex with the LLCC somewhat displaced to the SW (probably forced by modest NW/W-erly shear at higher levels). Current thinking is that if any warm-core structure is present, it will be a tilted one. Nevertheless, latest SAB update indicated another increase in strength and latest ASCAT data reveals 40-45 kt in the northern quadrant (some arrows not contaminated by ongoing DMC). The question arises, if this is not more typical for a subtropical feature due to ongoing modest shear. The system also has looped during the past few hours with only marginal movement to the north. A band of intense convection affects parts of SE-France right now and heavy to isolated excessive rainfall will be an imminent risk, next to an isolated tornado event with augmented LL shear! Further bands with heavy rainfall may affect SE-France/W-Ligurian coast during the night as the cyclone remains just offshore. Future intensity signals are mixed for 01M, as shear abates somewhat but it remains atop marginal cooler SSTs and it has drier air to the west to work with. Soundings upstream also confirm a slow warming trend at mid-levels. We would not be surprised to see a more pulsating activity of DMC next to the center/along the bands during the next 12-24h, but overall signs are more against another intense flare-up of persistent DMC. Models still show a stalling or westward moving system while weakening ahead of another upper trough over the far W-Atlantic.
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#97 Postby Kingarabian » Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:41 pm

This poses a possible threat to France and its no where on the news?
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#99 Postby Crostorm » Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:28 pm

08/11/2011 21:00 Porquerolles (83) Vent 149 km/h =41 m/s
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Re: Mediterranean Sea: 01M NONAME

#100 Postby Florida1118 » Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:39 pm

Dr.Master's take on this. He does not think it would be a TC if it were in NHC territory.
Unusual tropical storm-like low forms off coast of France
An unusual hybrid low pressure system has formed in the Mediterranean Sea, about 100 miles south of the coast of France. The low began as an extratropical storm named "Rolf", but has stalled out over the relatively warm waters of the Mediterranean over the past two days, and has acquired tropical characteristics. Heavy thunderstorms have built over the northeast portion of the low, and the storm has a symmetric spiral shape with a cloud-free center, like a tropical storm. The Navy is calling this system Invest 99L. The National Hurricane Center is not responsible for the Mediterranean Sea, so they are not issuing any products for 99L. NOAA's Satellite and Information Service (NESDIS) is giving 99L a tropical classification based on its satellite presentation, with winds in the 40 - 45 mph range. French radar shows heavy rains from 99L are beginning to affect Southeast France and the island of Corsica. The Lion Buoy, located about 100 miles to the west of the center of 99L, recorded sustained winds of tropical storm force, 40 mph, at 00 UTC yesterday. Water temperatures at the buoy were 17°C (63°F), far below the 26°C threshold usually needed to sustain a tropical storm. The coldest waters I've seen a tropical storm form in were 22°C during Hurricane Epsilon of 2005. I doubt that NHC would name this system if they did have responsibility for the Mediterranean, due to the cold water temperatures.

"Rolf" is expected to move slowly northwards into the coast of South France by Wednesday night. Meteo France is predicting heavy rains of 30 - 40 mm/hr (1.2 - 1.6"/hr) will affect the coast Tuesday night through Wednesday, with sustained winds of 50 mph, gusting to 75 mph.

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