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Re: WPAC: INVEST 91W

#21 Postby euro6208 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:17 am

How about 879 mb? Almost similiar in track to EURO.

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Re: WPAC: INVEST 91W (TROPICAL DEPRESSION - JMA)

#22 Postby mrbagyo » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:55 pm

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Re: WPAC: INVEST 91W (TROPICAL DEPRESSION - JMA)

#23 Postby ManilaTC » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:55 pm

This should be 25W now. A dead-center ASCAT pass with 20-25 kt barbs with 30kt barbs on the eastern half.

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Re: WPAC: INVEST 91W (TROPICAL DEPRESSION - JMA)

#24 Postby mrbagyo » Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:47 am

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Re: WPAC: INVEST 91W (TROPICAL DEPRESSION - JMA)

#25 Postby euro6208 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:23 am

TXPQ29 KNES 150309
TCSWNP

A. TROPICAL DISTURBANCE (91W)

B. 15/0230Z

C. 8.6N

D. 137.6E

E. THREE/HIMAWARI-8

F. T1.0/1.0/D1.0/24HRS

G. IR/EIR/VIS

H. REMARKS...CURVED VIS BANDING MEASURES SLIGHTLY GREATER THAN .2 ON
LOG-10 SPIRAL FOR DT=1.0. MET AND PT=1.0. FT IS BASED ON DT.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

NIL


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Re: WPAC: INVEST 91W (TROPICAL DEPRESSION - JMA)

#26 Postby doomhaMwx » Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:06 am

The next name on JMA's list is "Lan"...

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Re: WPAC: INVEST 91W (TROPICAL DEPRESSION - JMA)

#27 Postby euro6208 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 5:46 am

It's a very small system. Likely underestimated by dvorak. Too organized to be just a LPA from JTWC and a TD from JMA.

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Re: WPAC: INVEST 91W (TROPICAL DEPRESSION - JMA)

#28 Postby euro6208 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:50 am

25W TWENTYFIVE 171015 0600 9.0N 137.3E WPAC 20 1003

25W is here...
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Re: WPAC: TROPICAL DEPRESSION 25W

#29 Postby doomhaMwx » Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:01 am

JTWC first warning for 25W

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Re: WPAC: Tropical Depression 25W

#30 Postby 1900hurricane » Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:50 pm

JTWC forecast actually looks on the conservative side to me. 25W is one that I think could ramp up in a hurry.

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Re: WPAC: Tropical Depression 25W

#31 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Oct 15, 2017 2:01 pm

TPPN11 PGTW 151840

A. TROPICAL DEPRESSION 25W (W OF YAP)

B. 15/1800Z

C. 10.26N

D. 136.39E

E. FIVE/HMWRI8

F. T2.0/2.0 STT: D0.5/03HRS

G. IR/EIR

H. REMARKS: 38A/PBO SBC/ANMTN. .50 WRAP ON LOG10 SPIRAL YIELDS
2.5 DT. MET/PT N.A. DBO CONSTRAINTS.

I. ADDITIONAL POSITIONS: NONE


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Re: WPAC: Tropical Depression 25W

#32 Postby NotoSans » Sun Oct 15, 2017 2:14 pm

Upgraded to TS Lan by JMA. Can become the second category 5 of the season IMO.
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Re: WPAC: Tropical Storm Lan

#33 Postby 1900hurricane » Sun Oct 15, 2017 2:36 pm

Oh wow, the developing structure is actually a little further along than I was expecting. Very high ceiling with this one potentially, as is often the case with storms around here this time of year.

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Re: WPAC: Tropical Depression 25W

#34 Postby Sciencerocks » Sun Oct 15, 2017 2:56 pm

My personal in house estimate based on its current convective organization and that microwave image is near 45 knots. ;) lol
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Re: WPAC: Tropical Depression 25W

#35 Postby euro6208 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:25 pm

WDPN32 PGTW 151500
MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI//
SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR TROPICAL DEPRESSION 25W (TWENTYFIVE)
WARNING NR 01//
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1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS.
2. 6 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS.
TROPICAL DEPRESSION 25W (TWENTYFIVE), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 78 NM
WEST OF YAP, FSM, HAS TRACKED WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT 06 KNOTS OVER THE
PAST SIX HOURS. ANIMATED ENHANCED INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS
THE SYSTEM HAS IMPROVED AS FORMATIVE CONVECTIVE BANDS, ALBEIT STILL
SHALLOW, HAVE BECOME MORE ORGANIZED AND SYMMETRICALLY WRAPPED INTO A
DEFINED LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER. THE INITIAL POSITION LINED UP
WELL WITH A LOW REFLECTIVITY CIRCULATION FEATURE IN THE 150922Z SSMIS
MICROWAVE PASS. THE INITIAL INTENSITY OF 25 KNOTS IS CONSISTENT WITH
DVORAK ESTIMATES FROM PGTW, KNES, AND RJTD. UPPER LEVEL ANALYSIS
INDICATES THE SYSTEM IS IN AN AREA OF LOW (05-10 KNOT) VERTICAL WIND
SHEAR AND MODERATE RADIAL OUTFLOW THAT IS PROVIDING ADEQUATE
VENTILATION TO THE CENTRAL CONVECTION. ALONG-TRACK SEA SURFACE
TEMPERATURES IN THE PHILIPPINE SEA ARE 30 DEG CELSIUS AND ALSO
FAVORABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT. THE CYCLONE IS CURRENTLY TRACKING WITH THE
LOW LEVEL EASTERLY TRADEWIND FLOW.
3. FORECAST REASONING.
A. THIS IS THE INITIAL PROGNOSTIC REASONING BULLETIN ON THIS
SYSTEM AND SETS THE FORECAST PHILOSOPHY.
B. NEAR TERM, TD 25W WILL GRADUALLY TRACK ON A MORE NORTHWESTWARD
TRAJECTORY AS A NEAR EQUATORIAL RIDGE TO THE EAST EMERGES AS THE
INITIAL STEERING MECHANISM. HOWEVER, AFTER TAU 24, A MID-LEVEL
REFLECTION OF THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE (STR) TO THE NORTHEAST WILL
ASSUME STEERING AND DRIVE THE CYCLONE ON A MORE WESTWARD TRACK. AFTER
TAU 36, THE STR WILL WEAKEN AND RECEDE, ALLOWING TD 25W TO TRACK MORE
POLEWARD. THE FAVORABLE DYNAMICS MENTIONED IN PARA 2 WILL PERSIST AND
PROMOTE A FASTER THAN NORMAL INTENSIFICATION; BY TAU 72 THE SYSTEM
WILL BE A MODERATE TYPHOON AT 90 KNOTS CENTRAL WIND SPEED.
C. AFTER TAU 72, TD 25W WILL CONTINUE ITS NORTHWARD TRACK UNDER
THE STEERING INFLUENCE OF THE STR AND MAY LIKELY UNDERGO RAPID
INTENSIFICATION AS FAVORABLE CONDITIONS FURTHER IMPROVE INCLUDING
INCREASED POLEWARD OUTFLOW. THE SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO REACH 110 KNOTS
CENTRAL WIND SPEED BY END OF FORECAST, POSSIBLY HIGHER. THE AVAILABLE
NUMERIC GUIDANCE, TYPICAL WITH DEVELOPING SYSTEMS, IS IN POOR
AGREEMENT AS INDICATED IN THE WIDE SPREAD IN THE MODEL ENVELOPE. IN
VIEW OF THIS, THERE IS LOW CONFIDENCE IN THE INITIAL JTWC TRACK
FORECAST ON TD 25W.//
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Re: WPAC: LAN - Tropical Storm

#36 Postby euro6208 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:32 pm

GFS bottoms to 878 mb and EURO 937 mb. Both agrees on a massive Japan strike.

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Re: WPAC: LAN - Tropical Storm

#37 Postby euro6208 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:06 pm

WDPN32 PGTW 152100
MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI//
SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR TROPICAL DEPRESSION 25W (TWENTYFIVE)
WARNING NR 02//
RMKS/
1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS.
2. 6 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS.
TROPICAL DEPRESSION 25W (TWENTYFIVE), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 107
NM WEST-NORTHWEST OF YAP, HAS TRACKED NORTH-NORTHWESTWARD AT 09
KNOTS OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS. ANIMATED ENHANCED INFRARED SATELLITE
IMAGERY SHOWS DEEP CONVECTION GRADUALLY ORGANIZING AROUND A LOW-LEVEL
CIRCULATION CENTER (LLCC). THE INITIAL POSITION IS PLACED WITH FAIR
CONFIDENCE BASED UPON THE 151719Z SSMI 85GHZ MICROWAVE IMAGE
DEPICTING DEEP CONVECTION WRAPPING AROUND THE NORTH SIDE OF THE LLCC.
THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS SET AT 30 KNOTS, CONSISTENT WITH DVORAK
ESTIMATES OF T2.0 FROM BOTH PGTW AND RJTD. UPPER LEVEL ANALYSIS
INDICATES THE SYSTEM IS IN AN AREA OF LOW VERTICAL WIND SHEAR (10-15
KNOTS), WITH MODERATE OUTFLOW. SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES IN THE
PHILIPPINE SEA ARE WARM (30 DEGREES C). THE DEPRESSION IS CURRENTLY
TRACKING TOWARD THE NORTHWEST.
3. FORECAST REASONING.
A. NO CHANGE TO THE FORECAST PHILOSOPHY SINCE THE PREVIOUS
PROGNOSTIC REASONING MESSAGE.
B. TD 25W WILL CONTINUE TO TRACK TOWARD THE NORTHWEST IN THE SHORT
TERM. AFTER 24 TO 36 HOURS, THE SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO TURN TOWARD THE
NORTH AS THE STEERING SUBTROPICAL RIDGE (STR) RE-ORIENTS TOWARD THE
EAST. FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS WILL PERSIST AND ALLOW FOR
STEADY INTENSIFICATION. BY TAU 72, TD 25W IS EXPECTED TO BECOME A 95
KNOT SYSTEM.
C. AFTER TAU 72, TD 25W WILL CONTINUE ITS NORTHWARD TRACK UNDER
THE STEERING INFLUENCE OF THE STR TO THE EAST. GIVEN WARM SEA SURFACE
TEMPERATURES AND FAVORABLE UPPER-LEVEL CONDITIONS, A PERIOD OF RAPID
INTENSIFICATION IS A POSSIBILITY AS THE SYSTEM TURNS TOWARD THE NORTH
AND EVENTUALLY THE NORTH-NORTHEAST. GLOBAL MODELS ARE IN GOOD
AGREEMENT WITH THE GENERAL NORTHWARD MOTION, ALTHOUGH THE TIMING OF
THE TURN IS STILL A BIT UNCERTAIN. UNTIL TD 25W BECOMES MORE
ORGANIZED, THERE IS LOW CONFIDENCE IN THE INITIAL JTWC TRACK
FORECAST.//
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Re: WPAC: LAN - Tropical Storm

#38 Postby euro6208 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:59 pm

1.5 inches reported at Yap.

Tropical Depression Lan west of Yap is already
showing signs of strengthening with banding features visible on IR
satellite loops this morning. Widespread deep convection continues
to flare up near the center and sporadic convection is seen near the
convergent bands. Deep convection near the center has produced more
than 1.5 inches of rain at Yap International Airport last night. On
the other hand, convection near one of the bands has remained south
of Koror so far. With low vertical wind shear and good outflow
enhanced by an upper-level trough to the north, TD 25W will likely
become a tropical storm later today as it gradually tracks northwest
into the Philippine Sea. This will introduce convergent fresh to
strong monsoon flow across Palau and western Yap State by this
evening. Therefore, anticipate rainy and windy conditions for both
Koror and Yap thru midweek. As the future tropical storm lifts
farther north of Koror and Yap near midweek, monsoonal winds should
also shift northward away from both places. This will allow
conditions to gradually improve with surface ridging building from
the south toward this weekend.
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Re: WPAC: LAN - Tropical Storm

#39 Postby euro6208 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:27 pm

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If you have been following our post about the French researchers and the 2 blimps they launched in the past week, there positions have been plotted on the image below. Models show a very good chance they will be pulled into the center of 25W as it quickly intensifies and heads NW into the Philippine Sea.



French scientists on Guam use experimental balloons to study tropical cyclones

Interesting. We might have some real time data on Lan.
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Re: WPAC: LAN - Tropical Storm

#40 Postby euro6208 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:45 pm

25W LAN 171016 0000 10.6N 135.7E WPAC 35 996
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