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Re: WPAC: MOLAVE - Typhoon

#141 Postby euro6208 » Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:15 pm

1900hurricane wrote:These passes are roughly two hours apart. Unsurprisingly, crossing a mountainous island had a rather adverse effect on the core.




I would not be surprised if this made landfall as a Cat 3 major with that kind of presentation. Any obs from Mindoro?
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Re: WPAC: MOLAVE - Typhoon

#142 Postby euro6208 » Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:21 pm

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Re: WPAC: MOLAVE - Typhoon

#143 Postby ElectricStorm » Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:34 pm

I think there's a pretty good chance this become a major over the next day or so. Looks to be a significant Cat 2+ landfall for Vietnam.
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Re: WPAC: MOLAVE - Typhoon

#144 Postby ElectricStorm » Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:32 pm

0z GFS peaks this at 956mb before landfall in Vietnam at 962mb.
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Re: WPAC: MOLAVE - Typhoon

#145 Postby mrbagyo » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:14 am

80 knots
21W MOLAVE 201026 0000 13.1N 120.4E WPAC 80 977
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Re: WPAC: MOLAVE - Typhoon

#146 Postby doomhaMwx » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:51 am

Already reorganizing.

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Molave will be the strongest in a train of lows/TCs that have struck Vietnam this month. Could be a significant hit for the area.

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Re: WPAC: MOLAVE - Typhoon

#147 Postby euro6208 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:56 am

Still expected to peak just shy of Cat 3.

WDPN32 PGTW 260900
MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI//
SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR TYPHOON 21W (MOLAVE) WARNING NR
010//
RMKS/
1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS.
2. 6 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS.
TYPHOON (TY) 21W (MOLAVE), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 139 NM WEST-
SOUTHWEST OF MANILA, PHILIPPINES, HAS TRACKED WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT
15 KNOTS OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS. ANIMATED MULTISPECTRAL SATELLITE
IMAGERY (MSI) SHOWS THAT THE SYSTEM HAS BECOME SLIGHTLY LESS
ORGANIZED AFTER PASSAGE OVER THE RUGGED TERRAIN OF MINDORO, WITH THE
CONVECTIVE CORE SIGNIFICANTLY WEAKENED AND DEGRADED. A 260503Z AMSR2
36 GHZ MICROWAVE IMAGE AND A 260556Z LOW RESOLUTION ATMS 16.5 GHZ
MICROWAVE IMAGE SHOW WELL DEFINED LOW-LEVEL MICROWAVE EYE
FEATURES, WITH DEEP CONVECTIVE BANDING WRAPPING INTO A DEFINED LOW-
LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER (LLCC), INDICATING THAT THE LOW-LEVEL CORE,
WHILE WEAKENED, IS QUICKLY REFORMING. THE INITIAL POSITION IS PLACED
WITH HIGH CONFIDENCE BASED ON THE AFOREMENTIONED MICROWAVE IMAGERY.
DUE TO THE RECENT TERRAIN INTERACTION AND ATTENDANT DISRUPTION OF
THE CORE, THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS ASSESSED AT 80 KTS, PLACED IN THE
MIDDLE OF DVORAK CURRENT INTENSITY ESTIMATES OF T4.0 (65 KTS) TO
4.5 (77 KTS) FROM RJTD AND PGTW RESPECTIVELY, AN ADVANCED DVORAK
TECHNIQUE ESTIMATE OF T4.9 (88 KTS) AND A SATELLITE CONSENSUS
ESTIMATE OF 86 KNOTS. ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS REVEALS THAT TY 21W
LIES IN AN OVERALL FAVORABLE REGION WITH ROBUST EQUATORWARD AND
WESTWARD OUTFLOW, LOW TO MODERATE (15-25 KTS) VWS, AND WARM (28-29
CELSIUS) SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES. TY 21W IS TRACKING WESTWARD ALONG
THE SOUTHERN PERIPHERY OF A SUBTROPICAL RIDGE (STR) POSITIONED TO
THE NORTH.
3. FORECAST REASONING.
A. THERE IS NO CHANGE TO THE FORECAST PHILOSOPHY SINCE THE
PREVIOUS PROGNOSTIC REASONING MESSAGE.
B. TY 21W IS FORECAST TO TRACK WEST TO WEST-NORTHWESTWARD THROUGH
TAU 72 UNDER THE STEERING INFLUENCE OF THE DEEP-LAYERED STR
ENTRENCHED OVER SOUTHERN CHINA. A RESUMPTION OF INTENSIFICATION IS
EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT 24 HOURS, REACHING A PEAK OF 95 KNOTS BY TAU
24 AS THE UPPER-LEVEL PATTERN SHIFTS SLIGHTLY, LEADING TO AN
INCREASE IN DIVERGENCE OVER TOP OF THE SYSTEM. IMPROVEMENT IN THE
UPPER-LEVEL OUTFLOW WILL ALLOW FOR STEADY INTENSIFICATION EVEN AS
SSTS COOL TO LESS THAN 28 DEG CELSIUS AND VWS INCREASES. THE 25/18Z
COAMPS-TC RUN CONTINUES TO REFLECT A HIGH LIKELIHOOD OF A PEAK OF
100 KNOTS OR LESS WITH A SMALL CHANCE OF A PEAK ABOVE 100 KNOTS
AROUND TAU 36. TY 21W IS FORECAST TO MAKE LANDFALL JUST BEFORE TAU
48, SOUTH OF DA NANG, VIETNAM AND WILL CONTINUE INLAND NORTHEAST
THAILAND BY TAU 72, WEAKENING RAPIDLY OVER THE RUGGED TERRAIN.
NUMERICAL MODEL GUIDANCE IS IN EXTREMELY TIGHT AGREEMENT WITH A 35NM
SPREAD IN SOLUTIONS AT TAU 24, INCREASING TO 95NM AT TAU 48, JUST
AFTER LANDFALL. THE JTWC FORECAST TRACK LIES ALONG THE NORTHERN EDGE
OF THE FORECAST ENVELOPE THROUGH TAU 36, THEN NEAR THE MULTI-MODEL
CONSENSUS FROM TAU 48 TO 72 WITH HIGH CONFIDENCE.
C. IN THE EXTENDED RANGE, TY 21W WILL WEAKEN RAPIDLY AS IT TRACKS
WESTWARD OVER MOUNTAINOUS TERRAIN WITH DISSIPATION OVER LAND
EXPECTED BY TAU 96 NEAR THE THAILAND-MYANMAR BORDER. WITH THE
EXCEPTION OF JGSM WHICH REMAINS A SOUTHERN OUTLIER, NUMERICAL MODEL
GUIDANCE REMAINS IN TIGHT AGREEMENT THROUGH TAU 96, LENDING OVERALL
HIGH CONFIDENCE IN THE JTWC FORECAST TRACK PLACED NEAR THE MULTI-
MODEL CONSENSUS.//
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Re: WPAC: MOLAVE - Typhoon

#148 Postby euro6208 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:57 am

90 knots?


TPPN12 PGTW 260925

A. TYPHOON 21W (MOLAVE)

B. 26/0850Z

C. 13.45N

D. 118.38E

E. FIVE/HMWRI8

F. T5.0/5.0/D1.5/24HRS STT: S0.0/03HRS

G. IR/EIR/VIS/MSI

H. REMARKS: 40A/PBO SBC/ANMTN. LLCC EMBEDDED IN CMG YIELDS A DT
OF 5.0. MET AND PT AGREE. DBO DT.

I. ADDITIONAL POSITIONS:
26/0503Z 13.38N 119.57E AMS2
26/0506Z 13.23N 119.62E ATMS
26/0556Z 13.48N 118.92E MMHS
26/0742Z 13.30N 118.77E SSMI


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Re: WPAC: MOLAVE - Typhoon

#149 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:38 am

JTWC warning #10

Expected peak: 95 knots. (110 mph, just shy of CAT 3 strength.)

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The eye feature is still there
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Re: WPAC: MOLAVE - Typhoon

#150 Postby aspen » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:05 am

The eyewall has been rebuilt, and signs of it are showing up on IR as well.
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Re: WPAC: MOLAVE - Typhoon

#151 Postby ejeraldmc » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:30 am

This is the most prolonged battering of a typhoon that I've ever experienced. Strong winds and rain were unrelenting from 2 am until 2 pm. Gusts and rain continue until now at 8:30 pm. I remember being in Rammasun and Kammuri, but this is much worse.
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Re: WPAC: MOLAVE - Typhoon

#152 Postby rileydoxsee98 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:47 am

What’s the strongest typhoons to ever impact Vietnam? This has a decent chance to come ashore as a Major (Cat 3+). Especially if it reaches a high end C3/Low end C4 peak.
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#153 Postby euro6208 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:55 am

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Re: WPAC: MOLAVE - Typhoon

#154 Postby euro6208 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:00 am

Another victim of having no recon and the latest benefiting recon.

I might start a thread one day showing the bias of dvorak vs recon. Who's down? :lol:

I have seen many this season...

People complaining seem to forget.

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Re: WPAC: MOLAVE - Typhoon

#155 Postby styzeb » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:13 am

rileydoxsee98 wrote:What’s the strongest typhoons to ever impact Vietnam? This has a decent chance to come ashore as a Major (Cat 3+). Especially if it reaches a high end C3/Low end C4 peak.

Cecil 85 made landfall in central Vietnam as a 115 mph Cat 3, perhaps it was strongest. Ah also Agnes 84 with the same strength.
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Re: WPAC: MOLAVE - Typhoon

#156 Postby mrbagyo » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:18 am

rileydoxsee98 wrote:What’s the strongest typhoons to ever impact Vietnam? This has a decent chance to come ashore as a Major (Cat 3+). Especially if it reaches a high end C3/Low end C4 peak.


The last major typhoon that I can remember was Doksuri in September 2017.
Another major landfall was Typhoon Zach way back on November 1st, 1995 (A La Nina Year) - around the same time when Super Typhoon Angela was churning in the Philippine Sea.
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Re: WPAC: MOLAVE - Typhoon

#157 Postby styzeb » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:25 am

mrbagyo wrote:
rileydoxsee98 wrote:What’s the strongest typhoons to ever impact Vietnam? This has a decent chance to come ashore as a Major (Cat 3+). Especially if it reaches a high end C3/Low end C4 peak.


The last major typhoon that I can remember was Doksuri in September 2017.
Another major landfall was Typhoon Zach way back on November 1st, 1995 (A La Nina Year) - around the same time when Super Typhoon Angela was churning in the Philippine Sea.


Ok Agnes = Celcil = Zack = 115 mph at landfall.
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Re: WPAC: MOLAVE - Typhoon

#158 Postby rileydoxsee98 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:40 am

styzeb wrote:
mrbagyo wrote:
rileydoxsee98 wrote:What’s the strongest typhoons to ever impact Vietnam? This has a decent chance to come ashore as a Major (Cat 3+). Especially if it reaches a high end C3/Low end C4 peak.


The last major typhoon that I can remember was Doksuri in September 2017.
Another major landfall was Typhoon Zach way back on November 1st, 1995 (A La Nina Year) - around the same time when Super Typhoon Angela was churning in the Philippine Sea.


Ok Agnes = Celcil = Zack = 115 mph at landfall.







Interesting that they are all in late October or early November. I guess it makes sense tho.
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#159 Postby mrbagyo » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:47 am

Typhoon Therese also from 1972
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Re: WPAC: MOLAVE - Typhoon

#160 Postby mrbagyo » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:53 am

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