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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L

#21 Postby Zanthe » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:49 pm

alienstorm wrote:FISH STORM OUT TO SEA

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What makes you say that? You seem really sure, that's why I wanna know ^_^
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#22 Postby KWT » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:57 pm

As for strength, I do personally think there is at least a chance this comes close to major status as it starts to eject northwards around say 50-60W. IMO it may just fall short but much depends on whether it survives its intial juant to the NW.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#23 Postby Stephanie » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:02 pm

REMINDER - this thread is for model discussion ONLY. All other posts will be moved to the general discussion thread for this storm.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - discuss

#24 Postby ConvergenceZone » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:09 pm

With incredibly strong high pressure absolutely DOMINATING the Atlantic, I'd be shocked if this didn't continue westward....
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#25 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:12 pm

Instantly predicting a hurricane. This one means business.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - discuss

#26 Postby cycloneye » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:12 pm

This system will be a fun CV type one to track to see how it evolves in the open waters of the Atlantic.

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#27 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:14 pm

I'm in total agreement with the thinking this one is headed westward, and with Ernesto, Florence and TD7/Gordon taking the SAL away, I see Helene becoming the first major hurricane of the season, and boldly thinking a Category 4 or 5. Next week this could be an extremely dangerous hurricane.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - discuss

#28 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:17 pm

Im wondering if this will take a similar track to Isabel 2003 or Frances 2004, can't really discount that

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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - discuss

#29 Postby KWT » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:18 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:With incredibly strong high pressure absolutely DOMINATING the Atlantic, I'd be shocked if this didn't continue westward....


I'd agree, but if the models are right this one will be up at 20N in no time (before 30W possibly!), very hard to go across the whole Atlantic at that latitude so very early in the game

Besides, there is a weakness forecasted to develop around 50-55W. Had this one been at TD7's latitude, I think it'd have by-passed it, but that far north and probably strengthening its hard to see past a recurve into that weakness at this point like all the models are trying to do.
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#30 Postby BigB0882 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:18 pm

How many storms have formed this close to Africa (not that this has formed yet...) and made it all the way to the U.S.? I am curious. Certainly smells like a fish but a well timed strong high pressure can keep pushing it West. Glad to have stuff to track.
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#31 Postby pgoss11 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:19 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:I'm in total agreement with the thinking this one is headed westward, and with Ernesto, Florence and TD7/Gordon taking the SAL away, I see Helene becoming the first major hurricane of the season, and boldly thinking a Category 4 or 5. Next week this could be an extremely dangerous hurricane.

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Well it just seems to me if 93L does develope into a major it has along way to cross the Atlantic, gaining latitude to some degree and more susceptible to any weaknesses. Unless that high stays strong in the Atlantic, I can't see it making all the way across.

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#32 Postby KWT » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:23 pm

BigB0882 wrote:How many storms have formed this close to Africa (not that this has formed yet...) and made it all the way to the U.S.? I am curious. Certainly smells like a fish but a well timed strong high pressure can keep pushing it West. Glad to have stuff to track.


Someone said on another forum something like 5-6 have made it across having formed north of 15N and east of 35W...no certainty this one will form within those parameters, but if it does it seems unlikely it'll make it across, 6 systems out of hundreds isn't a big percentage risk.

Thinking about it, the CV islands may need to keep a close eye on it, has the potenial to be a TD/TS by the time it starts to leave this area.
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#33 Postby cycloneye » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:26 pm

KWT wrote:
BigB0882 wrote:How many storms have formed this close to Africa (not that this has formed yet...) and made it all the way to the U.S.? I am curious. Certainly smells like a fish but a well timed strong high pressure can keep pushing it West. Glad to have stuff to track.


Someone said on another forum something like 5-6 have made it across having formed north of 15N and east of 35W...no certainty this one will form within those parameters, but if it does it seems unlikely it'll make it across, 6 systems out of hundreds isn't a big percentage risk.

Thinking about it, the CV islands may need to keep a close eye on it, has the potenial to be a TD/TS by the time it starts to leave this area.


Is possible that they get a TS watch or warning.
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#34 Postby meriland23 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:28 pm

I am wondering how likely this is to turn into a fish or should we keep a eye on it in the US for it is a foreseeable possiblity that it may be a threat to the US
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#35 Postby pgoss11 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:30 pm

meriland23 wrote:I am wondering how likely this is to turn into a fish or should we keep a eye on it in the US for it is a foreseeable possiblity that it may be a threat to the US


I'm no expert but it is way out in the Atlantic and we have a lot of time to watch this storm. I'm sure the models will be flip flopping several times before we know what's really going to happen
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - discuss

#36 Postby OuterBanker » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:39 pm

Unofficial rule of thumb. North of 20 N before 60 W fish.

There are exceptions of course, but it's generally true.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - discuss

#37 Postby cycloneye » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:42 pm

OuterBanker wrote:Unofficial rule of thumb. North of 20 N before 60 W fish.

There are exceptions of course, but it's generally true.


Dont forget the small island of Bermuda in the middle of Atlantic.
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#38 Postby Gustywind » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:42 pm

cycloneye wrote:
Gustywind wrote::uarrow:
Hey Cycloneye, what's up with the UKMET model? :cheesy:


Yeah Gusty,tracks to the Butterfly island,but that run is not from 93L but from TD7.

ok :) strange coincidence but...surely a mistake lol
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - discuss

#39 Postby pgoss11 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:44 pm

[quote="OuterBanker"]Unofficial rule of thumb. North of 20 N before 60 W fish.

There are exceptions of course, but it's generally true.[/quote

That is the Hebert Box...right?
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#40 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:51 pm

This is probably going to be a humdinger of a hurricane, already has a super good structure

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