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WPAC: INVEST 91W

#1 Postby Meow » Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:41 pm

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Near Sansha.
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 91W

#2 Postby dexterlabio » Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:11 am

so it has formed, finally...
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 91W

#3 Postby Meow » Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:04 am

dexterlabio wrote:so it has formed, finally...

This system has been monitored by the JMA as a low-pressure area for many days.
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 91W

#4 Postby dexterlabio » Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:05 am

^yes it was on JMA's weather map for days and i was waiting for JTWC to follow by declaring it an invest...


Euro has been consistently showing this as a weak system being dragged by Sanba across Luzon, and their latest run shows it passing north of the capital, maybe as a weak depression.
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 91W

#5 Postby Meow » Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:20 am

dexterlabio wrote:^yes it was on JMA's weather map for days and i was waiting for JTWC to follow by declaring it an invest...

Euro has been consistently showing this as a weak system being dragged by Sanba across Luzon, and their latest run shows it passing north of the capital, maybe as a weak depression.

I doubt 91W will become Jelawat, as Sanba is now very strong.
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 91W

#6 Postby dexterlabio » Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:51 am

Meow wrote:I doubt 91W will become Jelawat, as Sanba is now very strong.



Agreed. As long as Sanba lingers nearby, the developing circulation of this disturbance will keep on getting disrupted...but I won't be surprised if it develops to a weak tropical depression in SCS, but being a TS is unlikely IMO. Though again, there will be some chances for 91W to become Jelawat if it managed to hold itself together and develop once it's in Philippine Sea...Sanba is forecast to be well away from PI then...

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Re: WPAC: INVEST 91W

#7 Postby mrbagyo » Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:52 am

dexterlabio wrote:^yes it was on JMA's weather map for days and i was waiting for JTWC to follow by declaring it an invest...


Euro has been consistently showing this as a weak system being dragged by Sanba across Luzon, and their latest run shows it passing north of the capital, maybe as a weak depression.


If it pass just north of Manila, Manila will get another round of sea surges, since it will be exposed to the right semicircle ( if ever this develops in to something).
Now imagine this scenario, hope this would not happen(the worst case scenario), what if a storm intensify into a major typhoon in the West Philippine Sea/ South china Sea, then re-curve and direct hit Manila big time at the height of the southwest monsoon with matching high tide , the most likely result... storm surge will reverse the flow of Pasig river pushing it inward, torrential rain will also add significantly to the flooding, wind damage will be horrendous, the damage will surely be catastrophic just like Katrina did in New Orleans. even though the chance of this happening is relatively small, there is always that possibility , so never ever underestimate a storm that form in that area because it may suddenly become a killer...remember the invest pulled by Saola... its just an invest
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 91W

#8 Postby dexterlabio » Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:56 am

Meow wrote:
Near Sansha.



by the way, where is Sansha? :)
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 91W

#9 Postby mrbagyo » Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:05 am

dexterlabio wrote:
Meow wrote:
Near Sansha.



by the way, where is Sansha? :)

looks like a disputed island in the West Philippine Sea/ South China Sea ( whatever you want to call it)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sansha
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 91W

#10 Postby dexterlabio » Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:08 am

mrbagyo wrote:
If it pass just north of Manila, Manila will get another round of sea surges, since it will be exposed to the right semicircle ( if ever this develops in to something).
Now imagine this scenario, hope this would not happen(the worst case scenario), what if a storm intensify into a major typhoon in the West Philippine Sea/ South china Sea, then re-curve and direct hit Manila big time at the height of the southwest monsoon with matching high tide , the most likely result... storm surge will reverse the flow of Pasig river pushing it inward, torrential rain will also add significantly to the flooding, wind damage will be horrendous, the damage will surely be catastrophic just like Katrina did in New Orleans. even though the chance of this happening is relatively small, there is always that possibility , so never ever underestimate a storm that form in that area because it may suddenly become a killer...remember the invest pulled by Saola... its just an invest



agreed. whether this becomes a weak storm, depression or mere invest, it will bring heavy rainfall over PI. winds were not really a big issue in Manila from tropical cyclones but the rains and ensuing floods...plus the surge as the monsoon is still active...

regarding the major system hitting Manila from the west...never heard of that kind of instance in the past but that surely is a bad scenario for Manila if ever happens.
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 91W

#11 Postby euro6208 » Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:10 am

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hmm.... euro actually develops this BUT in the philippine sea then up north passing okinawa to the east and hitting near tokyo as a moderate tropical storm...
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 91W

#12 Postby dexterlabio » Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:40 pm

Euro 12z doesn't develop this into a TC in the Philippine Sea anymore...it dies out right away after hitting PI, and that seems reasonable for me. Actually I now think any development of this disturbance will be very, very limited given the outflow coming from the monstrous Sanba which will disrupt its circulation, and the proximity...

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Re: WPAC: INVEST 91W

#13 Postby euro6208 » Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:53 am

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the philippines must be getting alot of rain from this system...thankfully it isn't a tropical cyclone...
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 91W

#14 Postby Meow » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:21 am

euro6208 wrote:the philippines must be getting alot of rain from this system...thankfully it isn't a tropical cyclone...

It is dead.
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