ATL: SANDY - Recon Discussion

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Re: ATL: SANDY - Recon Discussion

#181 Postby cycloneye » Sat Oct 27, 2012 11:16 am

Here is Saturdays TCPOD for Sunday and Monday.

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NOUS42 KNHC 271516
REPRPD
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1115 AM EDT SAT 27 OCTOBER 2012
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
         VALID 28/1100Z TO 29/1100Z OCTOBER 2012
         TCPOD NUMBER.....12-161

I.  ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
    1. HURRICANE SANDY
       FLIGHT ONE -- NOAA 42          FLIGHT TWO -- TEAL 71
       A. 29/0000Z                    A. 29/0000Z,0600Z
       B. NOAA2 2118A SANDY           B. AFXXX 2218A SANDY
       C. 28/2000Z                    C. 28/2145Z
       D. 34.2N 72.1W                 D. 34.2N 72.1W
       E. 28/2300Z TO 29/0200Z        E. 28/2330Z TO 29/0600Z
       F. SFC TO 15,000 FT            F. SFC TO 15,000 FT

       FLIGHT THREE -- TEAL 72
       A. 29/0900Z,1200Z,1500Z
       B. AFXXX 2318A SANDY
       C. 29/0645Z
       D. 35.8N 72.0W
       E. 28/0830Z TO 28/1500Z
       F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

    2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY.....CONTINUE 3-HRLY FIXES.
    3. REMARKS: THE NOAA G-IV WILL FLY A RESEARCH MISSION
       AROUND SANDY DEPARTING AT 28/1730Z.

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#182 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:52 pm

This makes me wonder, should they fly into intense non-tropical storms as well?
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#183 Postby brunota2003 » Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:29 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:This makes me wonder, should they fly into intense non-tropical storms as well?

They do fly into winter storms from time to time (high impact ones), we were thinking about trying to cover those flights too, just to help keep our hands in the mix and not have to relearn how to read everything every summer :lol:
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#184 Postby Dave » Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:03 pm

May have a bird with problems...no obs for 20 minutes now.

From last recco message received:

"Flight Level Dew Point: Not available, probably because the dew point hygrometer was not working."

Waiting to see what happens.
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#185 Postby brunota2003 » Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:06 pm

305 was the replacement for 309, wasn't it? Or was 305 the one with the issues last time?
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#186 Postby Dave » Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:10 pm

brunota2003 wrote:305 was the replacement for 309, wasn't it? Or was 305 the one with the issues last time?


I'm thinking 305 was the one with issues. Getting Recco's but nothing else.
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#187 Postby Dave » Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:12 pm

305's about 150 miles WSW of NOAA2's last center fix.
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Recon Discussion

#188 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:19 pm

The dew point stopped being available at 5:57:30pm EDT and they continued on releasing HDOBs after that until the last ob at 6:40:30pm EDT.
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#189 Postby Dave » Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:24 pm

Picking them up now Chris..thx
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#190 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:25 pm

Just so you know, when this site works:
http://www.opennoaaport.net:8015/rst/txt/knhc/
http://www.opennoaaport.net:8015/rst/txt/kwbc/
Obs come in fast. It was working a minute ago and now it is not again though.
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#191 Postby HenkL » Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:47 pm

Please take over NOAA2 mission, someone.
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#192 Postby Dave » Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:01 pm

HenkL wrote:Please take over NOAA2 mission, someone.


I've got it right now but if someone wants to take over NOAA2 go ahead....still on AF305 also.

Also if someone wants to do the graphics be my guest...sorta got my hands full.
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Recon Discussion

#193 Postby Cyclenall » Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:21 pm

Dave wrote:000
URNT15 KNHC 280001
AF305 1818A SANDY HDOB 20 20121027
235100 3019N 07502W 6970 02777 9615 +110 +110 340014 015 023 002 01
235130 3020N 07500W 6967 02779 9611 +110 +110 333015 016 022 003 01
235200 3020N 07458W 6967 02776 9608 +110 +110 331015 016 017 004 01
235230 3021N 07456W 6965 02775 9607 +110 +110 328017 018 013 003 01
235300 3022N 07454W 6967 02770 9595 +110 +110 331016 018 011 003 01
235330 3023N 07452W 6968 02766 9589 +120 +120 342014 016 013 003 01
235400 3024N 07451W 6971 02763 9585 +120 +120 337012 013 014 002 01
235430 3024N 07449W 6965 02770 9584 +120 +120 341011 012 011 003 01
235500 3025N 07447W 6970 02763 9575 +130 +121 345012 012 012 001 03
235530 3026N 07445W 6967 02763 9564 +139 +115 329007 011 010 004 03
235600 3027N 07443W 6967 02763 9558 +147 +105 279004 007 009 002 03
235630 3028N 07442W 6965 02768 9574 +134 +110 174009 010 020 001 00
235700 3028N 07442W 6965 02768 9577 +134 +107 153014 017 020 002 03
235730 3031N 07439W 7005 02724 9583 +132 +114 147019 020 021 003 00
235800 3032N 07438W 6994 02737 9585 +127 +121 143018 020 022 003 00
235830 3033N 07436W 6963 02775 9580 +133 +109 142018 019 022 005 00
235900 3035N 07435W 6967 02773 9578 +135 +112 143021 022 026 003 00
235930 3036N 07433W 6963 02780 9577 +142 +109 143023 023 025 004 00
000000 3037N 07432W 6975 02768 9569 +151 +103 148025 026 027 003 00
000030 3039N 07430W 6967 02781 9578 +147 +104 149027 029 027 002 00
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957 mb extrap


Hey Dave, I think you missed the 955.8 mb value a few lines above with other lower values.
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#194 Postby Dave » Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:23 pm

Fixed...thanks for catching that!
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#195 Postby Dave » Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:56 pm

At 9:00 PM EDT I'm going to need a couple volunteers to pick up AF & NOAA hdobs...Break time for me! Thanks!
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Recon Discussion

#196 Postby cycloneye » Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:48 pm

Crazy,you continue with NOAA and I stick with Air Force. :)
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Recon Discussion

#197 Postby cycloneye » Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:24 am

Here is Sundays TCPOD with the final missions for Monday and Tuesday.

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WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1215 PM EDT SUN 28 OCTOBER 2012
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
         VALID 29/1100Z TO 30/1100Z OCTOBER 2012
         TCPOD NUMBER.....12-162

I.  ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
    1. HURRICANE SANDY
       FLIGHT ONE -- TEAL 73          FLIGHT TWO -- TEAL 71
       A. 29/1800Z,2100Z,30/0000Z     A. 30/0300Z,0600Z,0900Z
       B. AFXXX 2418A SANDY           B. AFXXX 2518A SANDY
       C. 29/1500Z                    C. 29/2345Z
       D. 37.5N 71.8W                 D. 39.3N 73.7W
       E. 29/1730Z TO 30/0000Z        E. 30/0230Z TO 30/0900Z
       F. SFC TO 10,000 FT            F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

       FLIGHT THREE -- TEAL 72
       A. 30/1200Z,1500Z,1800Z
       B. AFXXX 2618A SANDY
       C. 30/XXXXZ
       D. 40.0N 73.0W
       E. 30/1130Z TO 30/1800Z
       F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

    2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY.....NEGATIVE.
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ATL: SANDY - Recon

#198 Postby Peach » Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:23 pm

For the amatuers, like myself, I added up the FCT ADV from NHC, got 740 miles of TS winds, is this correct? :?:
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Recon

#199 Postby artist » Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:54 pm

Peach wrote:For the amatuers, like myself, I added up the FCT ADV from NHC, got 740 miles of TS winds, is this correct? :?:

hopefully someone that knows will be along soon to answer you Peach.
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Recon Discussion

#200 Postby cycloneye » Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:53 pm

Hmmm Air Force plane finds 9503 but still has not reached center.
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