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#261 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:43 pm

gatorcane wrote:Any chance NHC pulls the trigger at 11PM EST or maybe 5AM EST?

At least we will have an official track and increased awareness to the general public of the Caribbean islands and those further upstream possibly in the path.

For example, if this does end up hitting Florida, we are only looking at about 6 days from now.

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96L is near the 24 hour window from the islands... At the rate it's going it might be a TD/TS by 5am... I say 5am...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#262 Postby MGC » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:43 pm

Still a sharp trough at the surface....looks like 96L is starting to spin at the mid levels. Doubt it takes too long for it to work its way down to the surface. Convection is currently robust, so I'd guess another 12-24 hours and we'll have a TD. Would not be surprised if recon finds a weak TS tomorrow.......MGC

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#263 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:46 pm

gatorcane wrote:Any chance NHC pulls the trigger at 11PM EST or maybe 5AM EST?

At least we will have an official track and increased awareness to the general public of the Caribbean islands and those further upstream possibly in the path.

For example, if this does end up hitting Florida, we are only looking at about 6 days from now.

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I think Gatorcane NHC will probably wait until at the earliest 11 a.m. tomorrow before pulling the trigger for an upgrade, unless 96L really organizes overnight. This may be a situation in which this may skip the TD designation straight to TS if the organization trend continues by the time Recon gets out there tomorrow.
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#264 Postby Hammy » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:49 pm

'CaneFreak wrote:Not a prayer. This thing doesn't even have a closed circulation yet. Did you miss the ASCAT posted above? They will have to wait for Recon to get in there tomorrow afternoon if they even fly.


This is organizing pretty quickly, it may not have a fully closed circulation for another day or two, but I see no reason why they wouldn't fly tomorrow.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#265 Postby dexterlabio » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:50 pm

somethingfunny wrote:Right there crossing over 13°N/53°W as the sun set.... just my opinion here....

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LOL the last pic cracked me up. Yeah, it may not have a discernible LLCC atm but it has better chance to become a significant TC than Bertha, IMO...
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#266 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:52 pm

There looks to be a deep band of convection firing to the SE of the main blob - could we possibly be seeing the first feeder band taking shape?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#267 Postby tropicwatch » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:53 pm

It looks like it is coming together quite nicely this evening.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#268 Postby meriland23 » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:55 pm

I wonder if this will be like Arthur in terms of strength ( and possibly track) or worse.
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#269 Postby Bocadude85 » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:57 pm

Blown Away wrote:
gatorcane wrote:Any chance NHC pulls the trigger at 11PM EST or maybe 5AM EST?

At least we will have an official track and increased awareness to the general public of the Caribbean islands and those further upstream possibly in the path.

For example, if this does end up hitting Florida, we are only looking at about 6 days from now.

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96L is near the 24 hour window from the islands... At the rate it's going it might be a TD/TS by 5am... I say 5am...


I'd be very surprised to see NHC pull the trigger before recon.
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#270 Postby Evil Jeremy » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:58 pm

What time does Recon fly out tomorrow?
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#271 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:04 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:What time does Recon fly out tomorrow?


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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#272 Postby asd123 » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:06 pm

Attention fellow storm2kers, it's important that we not put out advisories unless the criteria are met to create unnecessary hype. But the NHC and other weather officials need to keep a very close eye as this system seems to be rapidly organizing on sat compared to earlier today. Forget about the 5am 11 am 6pm 11pm advisories, if the weather officials deem it necessary they will issue a special advisory.

The Lesser Antilles look to be "relatively" safe should this become a td or ts, as landfall would be expected late Thursday evening or Early Friday Morning.

The General public with absolutely no weather knowledge (I know you storm2kers don't buy into the hype) will watch a weather forecast will listen, but some words like "tropical disturbance" and Florida path will stick out to them and they would think a tropical storm (really an invest disturbance and not an actual ts) is racing towards Florida.
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#273 Postby ozonepete » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:11 pm

Bocadude85 wrote:
Blown Away wrote:
gatorcane wrote:Any chance NHC pulls the trigger at 11PM EST or maybe 5AM EST?

At least we will have an official track and increased awareness to the general public of the Caribbean islands and those further upstream possibly in the path.

For example, if this does end up hitting Florida, we are only looking at about 6 days from now.

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96L is near the 24 hour window from the islands... At the rate it's going it might be a TD/TS by 5am... I say 5am...


I'd be very surprised to see NHC pull the trigger before recon.


As Blown Away said, they may not have much choice because of how close it is to the islands. If it is clear from the satellite presentation and resulting Dvorak numbers overnight that this is a TD and is still intensifying, they may have to go as early as 5AM or soon after. They've had to do this before as we all know.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#274 Postby hurricanehunter69 » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:20 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
cycloneye wrote:50%-70%

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT WED AUG 20 2014

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

Shower and thunderstorm activity associated with an elongated area
of low pressure located several hundred miles east of the Windward
Islands is slowly becoming better organized. Additional development
is possible during the next day or two, and a tropical depression
could form as the system moves west-northwestward at 10 to 15 mph
across the Lesser Antilles and into the Caribbean Sea. After that
time, land interaction could limit development potential over the
weekend. Regardless of tropical cyclone formation, gusty winds and
heavy rainfall are possible across portions of the Lesser Antilles,
Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands on Thursday night and Friday.
Interests in those islands should closely monitor the progress of
this system. An Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter aircraft is
scheduled to investigate the low tomorrow afternoon, if necessary.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...50 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...70 percent.

$$
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Looks like I was spot on correct earlier when I predicted it would possibly be 50/70% @ 8pm. 8-)

Yeah, but just two dayz ago you said "NO" wave had a chance....? Do you think this system has a chance despite all the negative factors?
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#275 Postby deltadog03 » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:21 pm

Its looking pretty good so far. It would appear that all systems are a go for takeoff! A stronger system will be a slower system, so that would put the GOM and FL in bigger threat IMO
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#276 Postby floridasun78 » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:35 pm

this could be like second system may gave usa scare after Aurthur Personal Forecast Disclaimer:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#277 Postby tropicwatch » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:35 pm

Look at the conditions above it, wow 8-)

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#278 Postby ROCK » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:38 pm

:uarrow: anti-cyclone aloft....couldnt be any better IMO

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#279 Postby ozonepete » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:48 pm

ROCK wrote::uarrow: anti-cyclone aloft....couldnt be any better IMO

good to be back!!


hey rock buddy! good to have you back. And yup, that anti-cyclone aloft is really venting this right now. Also helping it stay symmetric and expand its circulation envelope.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#280 Postby HurricaneTracker2031 » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:59 pm

ozonepete wrote:
ROCK wrote::uarrow: anti-cyclone aloft....couldnt be any better IMO

good to be back!!


hey rock buddy! good to have you back. And yup, that anti-cyclone aloft is really venting this right now. Also helping it stay symmetric and expand its circulation envelope.


I believe it has. The northern vertex appears to be the new domiant and excellent rotation and convection. However, it is still elongated at this time, but won't be for lo.g once this strengthens more. My next update is at tomorrow evening.

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