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Re: EPAC: INVEST 93E

#41 Postby TheAustinMan » Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:59 pm

Fairly broad circulation as relayed by the latest ASCAT pass.

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Satellite data - http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... -long.html
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 93E -70% / 90%

#42 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:26 pm

EP, 93, 2014060118, , BEST, 0, 119N, 942W, 25, 1007, LO
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 93E -70% / 90%

#43 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:01 pm

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NAM keeps it offshore for a bit.

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GFS has it closer to the coast, but moving very slowly. High rain threat IMO.
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#44 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Sun Jun 01, 2014 3:32 pm

Starting to think that it won't be until Tuesday or Wednesday when this is classified. Convective activity is lacking and the circulation, while closed, is very broad. This is a classic example of monsoonal development, and systems like these take days to organize substantially (remember Alex 2010?).
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#45 Postby Steve820 » Sun Jun 01, 2014 5:12 pm

I think this will become a depression tomorrow or Tuesday. I predict a peak of around 50-60 mph. The guys in southern Mexico/Guatemala need to prepare, since it could get destructive or deadly! I think us in SoCal are lucky because the Central Americans are getting :rain: from this invest and we're doing this: :layout: and :sprinkler: !!
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 93E -70% / 90%

#46 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jun 01, 2014 6:33 pm

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
500 PM PDT SUN JUN 1 2014

For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:

An area of low pressure located a few hundred miles south-southeast
of Puerto Angel, Mexico, is producing disorganized showers and
thunderstorms. This disturbance has changed little over the past
several hours. Environmental conditions are expected to become
conducive for development, and a tropical depression could form
during the next couple of days while the low drifts northwestward,
and then northward later in the week. Regardless of tropical
cyclone formation, this system is expected to produce locally heavy
rains across portions of western Central America and southeastern
Mexico this week. These rains could cause life-threatening flash
floods and mud slides in areas of mountainous terrain.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...high...70 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...90 percent

$$
Forecaster Pasch
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#47 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Jun 01, 2014 6:58 pm

This could be a big land impacting storm though...major flood potential.
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#48 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:05 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:This could be a big land impacting storm though...major flood potential.


Not sure if this is from 93E, but it may have already killed 6:

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Re: EPAC: INVEST 93E - 70% / 90%

#49 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:44 pm

No change as it continues stationary.

EP, 93, 2014060200, , BEST, 0, 119N, 942W, 25, 1007, LO
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 93E - 70% / 90%

#50 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:55 pm

cycloneye wrote:No change as it continues stationary.

EP, 93, 2014060200, , BEST, 0, 119N, 942W, 25, 1007, LO


Euro so far spot on on it being stationary.
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#51 Postby hurricanes1234 » Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:15 pm

I know it may be a little early, but I'm starting to question development ever so slightly.
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#52 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:24 pm

Anticyclonic flow has developed aloft, reducing shear to near 5kt. SHIPS keeps it this low for the foreseeable future.
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 93E - 70% / 90%

#53 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:08 pm

If convection doesn't begin to concentrate over the LLC soon IMO NHC may have to go down from the 70%/90% range that has been for the past 24 hours.
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Why the lack of convection?

#54 Postby hurricanes1234 » Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:27 pm

Why the convection is lacking, I don't know, as the waters are more than warm enough, the shear is low, and the air seems to be reasonably moist. Anyway, if this busts (not saying it would), it would be good news for Mexico.
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#55 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:55 pm

TXPZ22 KNES 020024
TCSENP

A. TROPICAL DISTURBANCE (93E)

B. 01/2345Z

C. 11.8N

D. 93.9W

E. FIVE/GOES-E

F. TOO WEAK

G. IR/EIR/VIS

H. REMARKS...THIS SYSTEM IS TOO WEAK TO CLASSIFY DUE TO LACK OF
CONVECTION AROUND CENTER. THIS WILL BE FINAL POSITION UNTIL REQUIREMENTS
ARE MET.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

NIL


...SWANSON
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Re: Why the lack of convection?

#56 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:06 pm

hurricanes1234 wrote:Why the convection is lacking, I don't know, as the waters are more than warm enough, the shear is low, and the air seems to be reasonably moist. Anyway, if this busts (not saying it would), it would be good news for Mexico.


There'd still be heavy rains regardless.
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#57 Postby SeGaBob » Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:09 pm

I personally don't think this will develop...but with the convection being stretched out some a more widespread area will get heavy rain than if it consolidated.



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#58 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:15 pm

SeGaBob wrote:I personally don't think this will develop...but with the convection being stretched out some a more widespread area will get heavy rain than if it consolidated.



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Why not? It has a few days left over favorable conditions. Wind shear is low and SSTS are very warm.
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 93E - 70% / 90%

#59 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:28 pm

cycloneye wrote:If convection doesn't begin to concentrate over the LLC soon IMO NHC may have to go down from the 70%/90% range that has been for the past 24 hours.

I think they'll leave it. The system has a defined LLC and any consistent increase of convection will probably put it over the top.
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#60 Postby SeGaBob » Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:29 pm

:uarrow: Yellow Evan It hasn't really been taking advantage of these favorable conditions yet...and the convection seems stretched out a lot. Maybe it might start upwelling cooler water because of it moving slow. I do see your point though and I may be wrong.

Edit: I keep spotting spelling problems... :x
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