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#61 Postby gatorcane » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:20 pm

Recurve east of Bahamas on 18Z GFS
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#62 Postby sunnyday » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:20 pm

As always this far out, won't there likely be many changes in its strength/path? 8-) 8-)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#63 Postby Riptide » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:21 pm

90L is fairly close to stalling inside the COL region of the departing cold front. This one bears watching more than any other this season.

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#64 Postby Frank2 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:06 pm

I never said the season was over so don't sue me (lol) - amazing how we went from nothing at the start of the week to two systems and perhaps three by the weekend - must be the lunar eclipse...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#65 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:13 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:Cristobal Deja Vu

That's what I was about ready to say, Cristobal 2.0 only stronger if the Euro's right! This time around to save me from anymore headaches I'm going with recurve out to sea, the time of year too really supports that.
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#66 Postby gatorcane » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:54 pm

Heads up Luis, HWRF is strong into eastern Puerto Rico: :eek:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#67 Postby cycloneye » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:57 pm

Yeah no kidding.
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#68 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:04 pm

:uarrow: Everyone knows by now that the HWRF intensifies these things too quickly and always seems to show a track that would affect landmasses. Lets just say it just got lucky with it's predictions for Arthur. :wink:
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#69 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:11 pm

gatorcane wrote:Recurve east of Bahamas on 18Z GFS


Oct...would expect nothing less. Will likely trend further and further east in the coming days..

Go Gators.
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#70 Postby Frank2 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:14 pm

Everyone knows by now that the HWRF intensifies these things too quickly and always seems to show a track that would affect landmasses. Lets just say it just got lucky with it's predictions for Arthur.


Not to mention the GFS - up to 48 hours ago some were comparing that program to a burned out light bulb : )
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#71 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:14 pm

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:
gatorcane wrote:Recurve east of Bahamas on 18Z GFS


Oct...would expect nothing less. Will likely trend further and further east in the coming days..

Go Gators.

Just like with Cristobal, it kept trending East.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#72 Postby sunnyday » Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:57 pm

I hate the word 'recurve' because that's all we hear anymore. Can we call it something else? Someone suggested 'exit stage right' before. 8-) 8-)
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#73 Postby SeGaBob » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:09 pm

sunnyday wrote:I hate the word 'recurve' because that's all we hear anymore. Can we call it something else? Someone suggested 'exit stage right' before. 8-) 8-)



Something I don't get about that is why they call it a recurve. Most systems curve away only once.

Back to 90L, it seems thunderstorm activity has decreased for the time being.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#74 Postby Blown Away » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:24 pm

Geez, it's almost mid Oct and we have a westward moving system like its Sept 1st... Few have ever made this type of track... Looks like the islands could see something, who knows about the CONUS, crazy things happen in Oct...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#75 Postby blp » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:33 pm

I was looking at the Euro Ensemble mean for the 500MB and I see more of a zonal pattern than the operational run. The ENE movement at 240hr still does not indicate an OTS scenario it could loop back if a ridge builds in so still early.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#76 Postby gatorcane » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:58 pm

blp wrote:I was looking at the Euro Ensemble mean for the 500MB and I see more of a zonal pattern than the operational run. The ENE movement at 240hr still does not indicate an OTS scenario it could loop back if a ridge builds in so still early.

Operational run:

http://oi57.tinypic.com/2woh9om.jpg

Ensemble:

http://oi61.tinypic.com/30nis7p.jpg


Not to mention that map is 240 hours from now. As one of our promets pointed out early, the pattern is extremely complex in the medium to long-range especially when looking how Super Typhoon Vongfong will impact things downstream. Beyond about 4-5 days with the models is highly uncertain.
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#77 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:58 pm

So far out through 72hrs. the 00z GFS shows nothing, could this be a trend? Guess we will find out when the Euro comes out.
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#78 Postby Hurricaneman » Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:04 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:So far out through 72hrs. the 00z GFS shows nothing, could this be a trend? Guess we will find out when the Euro comes out.


even at 90hrs theres a whole lot of nothing but this could be a late bloomer and typically with shallower systems they tend to go more west and another reason for not developing much at 90hrs is Hispaniola which could be huge in terms of track and intensity in the long run

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#79 Postby Alyono » Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:06 pm

starts developing around 108 hour north of Hispañiola
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#80 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:06 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:So far out through 72hrs. the 00z GFS shows nothing, could this be a trend? Guess we will find out when the Euro comes out.


even at 90hrs theres a whole lot of nothing but this could be a late bloomer and typically with shallower systems they tend to go more west and another reason for not developing much at 90hrs is Hispaniola which could be huge in terms of track and intensity in the long run

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Also it is the GFS which has been plain nuts this season. Who knows though, tonight's Euro should tell us more.
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