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#81 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:34 am

Sonde info deleted.
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#82 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:35 am

Center sonde from vortex message:

UZPN13 KNHC 090527
XXAA 59057 99191 71451 05195 99977 24804 11015 00704 ///// /////
92483 23211 13015 85221 20009 14012 70885 13017 15005 88999 77999
31313 09608 80455
61616 AF304 0210C JULIO OB 12
62626 CENTER MBL WND 12016 AEV 07520 DLM WND 14012 977696 WL150 1
1516 084 REL 1914N14509W 045507 SPG 1915N14510W 045939 =
XXBB 59058 99191 71451 05195 00977 24804 11850 20009 22786 18428
33709 14222 44696 12415
21212 00977 11015 11937 13017 22850 14012 33809 15015 44783 17515
55766 15510 66696 17005
31313 09608 80455
61616 AF304 0210C JULIO OB 12
62626 CENTER MBL WND 12016 AEV 07520 DLM WND 14012 977696 WL150 1
1516 084 REL 1914N14509W 045507 SPG 1915N14510W 045939 =
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#83 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:37 am

Storm slice NE (then north-ish) to SW pass:

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Location of slice:

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#84 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:41 am

000
URPN15 KNHC 090537
AF304 0210C JULIO HDOB 42 20140809
052900 1750N 14605W 6967 03178 //// +070 //// 284016 016 022 000 05
052930 1750N 14602W 6967 03180 //// +072 //// 284017 018 024 000 05
053000 1750N 14600W 6968 03175 0098 +075 +071 287018 018 023 000 00
053030 1750N 14557W 6966 03180 0097 +079 +068 285019 020 023 000 03
053100 1750N 14555W 6966 03180 0096 +080 +070 281020 020 024 000 00
053130 1750N 14552W 6967 03174 0090 +080 +071 278021 021 023 000 03
053200 1750N 14550W 6971 03170 0090 +080 +067 279020 021 023 000 00
053230 1751N 14547W 6962 03181 0091 +079 +068 280019 019 022 000 00
053300 1751N 14544W 6973 03168 0093 +076 +072 277020 021 023 000 01
053330 1751N 14542W 6966 03173 0093 +079 +069 274022 022 023 000 00
053400 1751N 14539W 6967 03177 0092 +080 +072 266023 023 025 000 00
053430 1751N 14537W 6965 03176 0092 +080 +073 266023 023 025 000 03
053500 1751N 14534W 6974 03165 0091 +080 +071 263023 024 026 000 00
053530 1751N 14532W 6962 03179 0087 +080 +070 259025 025 025 000 03
053600 1751N 14529W 6971 03166 0088 +082 +068 252025 026 026 000 00
053630 1751N 14526W 6964 03179 0085 +085 +063 247026 027 025 000 00
053700 1752N 14524W 6970 03173 0078 +090 +058 243028 029 026 000 00
053730 1752N 14521W 6963 03177 0079 +090 +058 247029 029 026 001 00
053800 1752N 14519W 6969 03169 0083 +087 +065 245030 030 027 000 00
053830 1752N 14516W 6966 03178 0082 +089 +064 242030 031 028 000 03
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#85 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:41 am

Will post updated sonde info shortly. There were two sondes dropped for wind. I confused them.
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#86 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:44 am

Chris_in_Tampa wrote:Will post updated sonde info shortly. There were two sondes dropped for wind. I confused them.

Don't really understand sondes.
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Re: CPAC: JULIO - Recon

#87 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:49 am

Both dropped in maximum wind band, just on opposite side of center. Both had same surface winds, but very different winds at other levels.

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NW of eye:


UZPN13 KNHC 090525
XXAA 59057 99194 71452 05195 99989 24002 01055 00600 ///// /////
92583 21202 04097 85315 18004 06096 70965 11001 07081 88999 77999
31313 09608 80450
61616 AF304 0210C JULIO OB 11
62626 MBL WND 02578 AEV 07520 DLM WND 05588 988697 WL150 01571 08
3 REL 1937N14523W 045027 SPG 1930N14533W 045508 =
XXBB 59058 99194 71452 05195 00989 24002 11850 18004 22697 10800
21212 00989 01055 11980 01576 22975 02073 33970 02077 44965 02566
55956 02584 66944 03084 77938 04095 88931 04100 99911 04592 11875
05100 22850 06096 33697 07080
31313 09608 80450
61616 AF304 0210C JULIO OB 11
62626 MBL WND 02578 AEV 07520 DLM WND 05588 988697 WL150 01571 08
3 REL 1937N14523W 045027 SPG 1930N14533W 045508 =


SW (south-ish) of eye:


UZPN13 KNHC 090529
XXAA 59057 99189 71452 05185 99986 24610 27555 00628 ///// /////
92556 22411 29551 85291 20026 28057 70957 16859 31050 88999 77999
31313 09608 80459
61616 AF304 0210C JULIO OB 13
62626 MXWNDBND SPL 1891N14518W 0504 MBL WND 29060 AEV 07520 DLM W
ND 29055 985696 WL150 28561 083 REL 1894N14525W 045954 =
XXBB 59058 99189 71452 05185 00986 24610 11881 19808 22850 20026
33834 20846 44735 15846 55696 16459
21212 00986 27555 11979 28057 22974 28566 33966 29061 44959 29565
55923 29550 66915 29054 77895 28548 88866 27556 99857 28054 11850
28057 22696 31046
31313 09608 80459
61616 AF304 0210C JULIO OB 13
62626 MXWNDBND SPL 1891N14518W 0504 MBL WND 29060 AEV 07520 DLM W
ND 29055 985696 WL150 28561 083 REL 1894N14525W 045954 =
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#88 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:50 am

000
URPN15 KNHC 090547
AF304 0210C JULIO HDOB 43 20140809
053900 1752N 14513W 6964 03179 0080 +088 +065 244031 032 027 000 00
053930 1752N 14511W 6966 03175 0081 +086 +067 244031 032 026 000 00
054000 1752N 14508W 6974 03164 0080 +090 +059 242030 031 027 000 00
054030 1752N 14506W 6963 03178 0081 +089 +060 241030 031 028 000 00
054100 1752N 14503W 6971 03169 0084 +089 +061 237030 030 027 000 00
054130 1753N 14500W 6965 03176 0081 +090 +057 234029 029 028 000 00
054200 1753N 14458W 6963 03181 0083 +090 +062 226030 030 028 000 00
054230 1753N 14455W 6973 03170 0081 +090 +059 224029 029 028 000 03
054300 1753N 14453W 6962 03183 0086 +088 +061 224029 030 028 000 00
054330 1753N 14450W 6971 03174 0089 +088 +058 219031 031 028 000 03
054400 1753N 14448W 6966 03182 0089 +090 +054 216031 031 028 000 03
054430 1753N 14445W 6970 03176 0085 +090 +054 214031 031 027 000 03
054500 1753N 14443W 6960 03190 0089 +088 +061 215033 034 027 000 00
054530 1753N 14440W 6971 03173 0093 +085 +065 210034 034 027 000 00
054600 1754N 14437W 6967 03180 0093 +086 +057 205035 035 027 000 00
054630 1754N 14435W 6963 03191 0096 +085 +062 204037 038 027 000 03
054700 1754N 14432W 6973 03176 0099 +085 +063 205039 039 027 000 00
054730 1754N 14430W 6963 03188 0098 +085 +058 204039 039 027 000 00
054800 1754N 14427W 6968 03185 0101 +082 +056 202038 039 027 000 00
054830 1754N 14425W 6967 03187 0108 +078 +064 199038 038 027 000 00
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#89 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:52 am

Do they usually drop sondes that close to each other.
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#90 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:53 am

Kingarabian wrote:Don't really understand sondes.

As for decoding the raw text visually, I can't even do most any of it. (and I wrote the decoder, lol) Coding it was *fun* at the time though, lol. And I rewrote it since I originally wrote it too. Double the fun.

It's easier just to look at the decoded output:

http://tropicalglobe.com/recon/pacific/ ... mission=02

Very important, winds are over a very short time. I'll post a graph in a moment.
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#91 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:55 am

Chris_in_Tampa wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:Don't really understand sondes.

As for decoding the raw text visually, I can't even do most any of it. (and I wrote the decoder, lol) Coding it was *fun* at the time though, lol. And I rewrote it since I originally wrote it too. Double the fun.

It's easier just to look at the decoded output:

http://tropicalglobe.com/recon/pacific/ ... mission=02

Very important, winds are over a very short time. I'll post a graph in a moment.


Lol. Writing the decoder but can't decode it. Gave me a chuckle :lol:
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#92 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Sat Aug 09, 2014 1:01 am

Kingarabian wrote:Do they usually drop sondes that close to each other.
The following comes from the very detailed National Hurricane Operations Plan.

http://www.ofcm.gov/nhop/14/nhop14.htm



Requirements for Aircraft Reconnaissance Data

For fix pattern, when to do each:

RECCO Section 1 plus 4ddff and 9VTTT as applicable:
End points of Alpha pattern legs. When necessary with radar fix information.

Vortex Data Message (VDM):
Each fix.

Vertical Data WMO Temp Drop Code (FM37-VII) <--- sonde:
Each tasked fix at or above 850 mb. Intermediate fixes and eyewall modules as requested.

High Density Observation (HDOB):
30-sec interval



I don't recall how often they have done that. Looking at the specifications of what that means, looks like this is defined as a "Eyewall Module" pattern.



5.8. Operational Flight Patterns. This section details the operational flight patterns that
provide vortex and peripheral data on tropical and subtropical cyclones.

5.8.4. Eyewall and Outer-Wind Field Sampling Modules. These are patterns of
dropwindsonde releases designed to measure the maximum surface wind, as well as the extent of
hurricane and tropical storm force surface winds. They are meant to be flown using the operational
alpha pattern. Dropwindsonde releases in these modules are in addition to any other releases
required by Table 5-1.

5.8.4.1. Eyewall Module. While executing a standard alpha pattern to satisfy a
fix requirement, one sounding will be taken during each inbound and outbound passage through
the eyewall
(except as noted below), for a total of four soundings. The releases should be made at
or just inward (within 12 km) of the flight-level radius of maximum wind (RMW).
If the radar
presentation is suitable, the inner edge of the radar eyewall may be used to identify the release
point. If possible, and when resources and safety permit, two dropwindsondes, spaced less than 30
seconds apart, should be deployed on the inbound leg on the side of the storm believed to have the
highest surface winds (normally the right-hand side). In this case, the outer of the two releases
should be made at the RMW, with the second release following as soon as possible. Typically, the
eyewall module will be tasked within 48 hours of a forecasted hurricane landfall.
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#93 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Aug 09, 2014 1:01 am

000
URPN15 KNHC 090557
AF304 0210C JULIO HDOB 44 20140809
054900 1754N 14422W 6966 03187 0109 +076 +063 198040 040 027 000 00
054930 1754N 14420W 6968 03187 0109 +079 +062 199039 040 027 000 00
055000 1754N 14418W 6967 03190 0107 +081 +057 196040 040 025 000 03
055030 1754N 14415W 6972 03184 0104 +085 +048 194040 040 025 000 00
055100 1755N 14413W 6968 03188 0101 +089 +044 193039 040 028 001 00
055130 1755N 14410W 6962 03199 0100 +092 +043 188037 039 021 001 03
055200 1757N 14409W 6978 03179 0096 +095 +045 184035 037 /// /// 03
055230 1759N 14410W 6975 03178 0094 +095 +047 183033 034 027 000 00
055300 1800N 14412W 6967 03185 0093 +089 +050 182034 034 028 000 00
055330 1801N 14413W 6966 03187 0098 +085 +054 182034 035 025 001 00
055400 1803N 14415W 6968 03181 0099 +083 +058 185035 035 025 000 00
055430 1804N 14416W 6969 03179 0098 +083 +061 187035 036 026 000 03
055500 1806N 14418W 6965 03184 0102 +077 +070 185037 037 027 000 03
055530 1807N 14419W 6969 03179 0103 +077 +070 184037 038 027 000 03
055600 1808N 14421W 6967 03181 0096 +080 +072 185036 037 027 000 00
055630 1810N 14422W 6968 03181 0096 +080 +071 183037 037 028 000 00
055700 1811N 14424W 6967 03179 0094 +080 +071 187037 038 028 000 03
055730 1813N 14425W 6967 03177 0091 +080 +071 184040 040 027 000 00
055800 1814N 14427W 6967 03174 0084 +086 +063 184040 040 028 000 00
055830 1815N 14428W 6967 03172 0079 +090 +062 184039 039 028 000 03
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#94 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Sat Aug 09, 2014 1:07 am

The highest wind sonde graphed. Near release, about 80 knots. At surface 55 knots. But inbetween, 100 knots. It tells you about the wind, temperature and dew point on the way down. I don't know much about looking at the humidity. I just look at the winds.

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#95 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Sat Aug 09, 2014 1:11 am

Through HDOB 45:

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#96 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Aug 09, 2014 1:13 am

000
URPN15 KNHC 090607
AF304 0210C JULIO HDOB 45 20140809
055900 1817N 14429W 6970 03169 0078 +090 +063 185038 038 030 001 00
055930 1818N 14431W 6963 03173 0076 +088 +063 185039 039 031 001 03
060000 1820N 14432W 6967 03171 0073 +090 +062 186039 039 033 000 00
060030 1821N 14434W 6967 03167 0073 +089 +061 189038 039 033 000 00
060100 1822N 14435W 6966 03166 0072 +087 +065 190038 039 035 003 00
060130 1824N 14437W 6970 03158 0062 +095 +057 187039 040 036 003 03
060200 1825N 14438W 6967 03163 0065 +090 +060 186041 041 033 002 00
060230 1827N 14440W 6965 03165 0067 +089 +062 190041 041 034 000 00
060300 1828N 14441W 6970 03159 0065 +090 +062 195041 042 034 000 03
060330 1829N 14443W 6969 03159 0058 +092 +072 196041 042 035 000 00
060400 1831N 14444W 6963 03161 0059 +089 +070 197041 042 035 000 03
060430 1832N 14445W 6971 03148 0054 +092 +069 199041 041 036 000 03
060500 1833N 14447W 6969 03149 0051 +093 +064 200041 041 036 000 00
060530 1835N 14448W 6962 03156 0054 +088 +069 200043 043 036 000 00
060600 1836N 14450W 6971 03141 0051 +087 +071 201045 045 036 000 00
060630 1838N 14451W 6969 03140 //// +077 //// 200047 048 037 000 05
060700 1839N 14452W 6963 03144 //// +077 //// 202047 048 039 000 01
060730 1840N 14454W 6967 03135 //// +075 //// 203049 049 039 000 05
060800 1842N 14455W 6966 03137 //// +076 //// 202050 050 040 000 05
060830 1843N 14457W 6966 03132 //// +078 //// 204049 050 041 000 05
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#97 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Sat Aug 09, 2014 1:15 am

Kingarabian wrote:Lol. Writing the decoder but can't decode it. Gave me a chuckle :lol:
I started writing the recon products in 2006. I can't remember if it was 2007 or 2008 before I first wrote the dropsonde decoder. And it has been a year or more probably since I rewrote it. I never trust myself to eyeball it. I always decode it first.
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#98 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Aug 09, 2014 1:19 am

Chris_in_Tampa wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:Lol. Writing the decoder but can't decode it. Gave me a chuckle :lol:
I started writing the recon products in 2006. I can't remember if it was 2007 or 2008 before I first wrote the dropsonde decoder. And it has been a year or more probably since I rewrote it. I never trust myself to eyeball it. I always decode it first.


I'm really impressed that you've done this all by yourself. Thank you for making it all public and free.
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#99 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Aug 09, 2014 1:19 am

000
URPN15 KNHC 090617
AF304 0210C JULIO HDOB 46 20140809
060900 1844N 14458W 6967 03125 0026 +085 +081 204051 052 043 001 01
060930 1846N 14459W 6966 03123 0024 +085 +083 201053 054 044 000 05
061000 1847N 14501W 6969 03115 0019 +085 +080 202055 056 044 001 00
061030 1848N 14502W 6967 03114 0012 +086 +080 203055 056 044 000 00
061100 1850N 14504W 6969 03106 //// +083 //// 205057 058 044 000 05
061130 1851N 14505W 6963 03104 //// +075 //// 205059 060 044 000 05
061200 1852N 14506W 6970 03090 //// +067 //// 210059 061 047 003 01
061230 1854N 14508W 6967 03089 //// +085 //// 212060 061 049 001 01
061300 1855N 14509W 6967 03079 //// +088 //// 211064 065 050 002 01
061330 1856N 14511W 6973 03066 9952 +092 +090 213066 068 052 002 01
061400 1858N 14512W 6965 03067 9941 +098 +082 216068 068 053 003 00
061430 1859N 14513W 6964 03058 9928 +100 +091 221068 069 056 001 00
061500 1900N 14514W 6967 03044 9909 +106 +092 233070 071 056 001 00
061530 1901N 14516W 6970 03033 9897 +108 +097 237068 070 057 002 03
061600 1903N 14517W 6963 03025 9874 +115 +102 236061 065 057 001 00
061630 1904N 14518W 6959 03021 9861 +117 +099 236061 063 054 003 00
061700 1905N 14519W 6973 02986 9836 +121 +104 234057 059 053 002 00
061730 1907N 14520W 6955 03001 9820 +124 +105 228052 057 050 001 00
061800 1908N 14521W 6973 02962 9806 +125 +109 227043 047 042 001 03
061830 1910N 14522W 6969 02964 9795 +128 +106 227038 041 034 000 00
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