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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#21 Postby Sanibel » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:36 am

The hurricane belt is ripe for 2014. It had that 'feel' around here the last two days. I should have posted.


This has a pretty good center from its appearance but we've seen more than one of these get shredded too.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#22 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:40 am

Let's see if this bouy (41041) located at 14.6N-46.4W collects data as it moves south of there.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#23 Postby Sanibel » Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:54 am

Warm tops should be an indication of lack of staying power.
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#24 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:08 pm

HurricaneBrain wrote:IS THAT AN EYE? :lol: On a serious note, 92L looks close to depression status and could dodge the unfavorable conditions in its path. The intensity forecasts surprisingly suggest a strengthening tropical storm in the next couple of days.

Intensity forecast have pretty much sucked IMO over the past few years (especially last year) for storms that have formed in MDR. In my honest opinion 92L will be luck to even become a weak TS at best.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#25 Postby HurricaneTracker2031 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:11 pm

92L is looking pretty good and survived through the night to be tagged. As shown on satellite imagery, there is now a well defined center and convection is filling the center and its beginning to wrap around all that convection. Therefore, it is intensifying.....

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#26 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:14 pm

Nice shot of 92L there,

I was just looking at the floater for 92l on both visible and IR this invest is looking strong at the moment. Seems to have a good circulation and even some possible inflow.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#27 Postby JonathanBelles » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:17 pm

This seems to be a case where visible imagery is giving the appearance of a TC while the data suggests otherwise. The ASCAT data from this morning shows an area of westerly winds well removed from the center, but stronger winds nearing TS Strength...both features mentioned in slight by the NHC. I think this feature may need a night or two before true formation can take place. This small system may get taken over by the dry air quickly. I'm still not sure if this is the suicide wave that I thought it was originally or not.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#28 Postby Blown Away » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:17 pm

My Forecast For 92L:
24 hours: Poof.
48 hours: We track a naked LLC.
72 hours: Bones makes an appearance.
96 hours: 92L deactivated.

:D
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#29 Postby hurricaneCW » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:19 pm

I've seen much worse looking systems get classified than 92L.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#30 Postby tolakram » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:19 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#31 Postby tolakram » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:22 pm

Saved RGB loop appears to show an LLC ... maybe.

link: http://imageshack.com/a/img905/4504/d3d96a.gif
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#32 Postby Hammy » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:27 pm

Looks like it could be upgraded later today--development chances in six hours went from 20% to 70%.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#33 Postby HurricaneTracker2031 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:32 pm

CODE RED
70/70


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TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 PM EDT MON JUL 21 2014

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

1. Shower activity associated with a small area of low pressure located
about 1250 miles east of the Lesser Antilles has continued to
increase and show signs of organization during the past few hours.
Satellite data indicate that the circulation has become better
defined and the system is producing a small area of winds near
tropical storm force. Only a small increase in organization of the
shower activity would result in the formation of a tropical
depression as the system moves westward to west-northwestward at 15
to 20 mph during the next day or two. After that time, however,
environmental conditions are expected to become less conducive for
development or strengthening. Interests in the Lesser Antilles
should monitor the progress of this system.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...high...70 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...70 percent.

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#34 Postby RL3AO » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:37 pm

Fascinating little system. I agree with Jonathan that it "looks" like a TC and the visible loop makes it look like something might be going on at the surface.
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#35 Postby gatorcane » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:38 pm

Code red, not bad for July!

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#36 Postby underthwx » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:39 pm

This gonna be a GOM or an Atlantic storm?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#37 Postby HurricaneBrain » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:45 pm

underthwx wrote:This gonna be a GOM or an Atlantic storm?

Way too early to determine that. The models somewhat show a GOM path in the long term, but it must first make it through dry air and high wind shear. Even then, the forecast models will constantly be changing. There should be more of a consensus in 72 hours.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#38 Postby wxman57 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:48 pm

Blown Away wrote:My Forecast For 92L:
24 hours: Poof.
48 hours: We track a naked LLC.
72 hours: Bones makes an appearance.
96 hours: 92L deactivated.

:D


Bones said that the best chance of development is today through the next 24-36 hours. Beyond then it will encounter increasingly hostile conditions.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#39 Postby Frank2 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:48 pm

Most know how conservative I am about developing systems (Arthur, Sandy, etc.) but am impressed by this system - I wouldn't have known but happened to receive a tweet from the NHC a few minutes ago, and the tweeted photo took me by surprise - an Atlantic system like that takes me back to my weather days of the 1980's...

We'll see what happens, but I tend to agree with Sanibel : ( - our own rainy season here in South Florida has been incredible this year (we had 7 1/2 feet of rain last year and might exceed that amount this year - my roof is leaking) and don't know how that'll affect things, though another deep trough (summer-polar vortex) is shown on the GFS the next 5-10 days, so we'll see...

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#40 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:57 pm

I knew the percentage would go up based on how 92L is looking. But never expected it to jump that much in one shot.
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