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#1181 Postby JtSmarts » Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:17 am

I hope flooding doesn't become a huge issue with Iselle slowing down so much.
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#1182 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:18 am

JtSmarts wrote:I hope flooding doesn't become a huge issue with Iselle slowing down so much.

Great point. This is very dangerous. Never thought of it, but landslides are a serious hazard if it continues to stall.
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#1183 Postby JtSmarts » Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:20 am

Kingarabian wrote:
JtSmarts wrote:I hope flooding doesn't become a huge issue with Iselle slowing down so much.

Great point. This is very dangerous. Never thought of it, but landslides are a serious hazard if it continues to stall.

It's a good thing that at the moment it appears that Julio's core will remain a good bit north. That could make things so much worse.
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Re: CPAC: ISELLE - Hurricane

#1184 Postby supercane4867 » Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:23 am

Recon fix confirms center is now at almost the exact same latitude with south point
Pressure up to 1000mb...this may even die off before reaching land
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Re: CPAC: ISELLE - Hurricane

#1185 Postby euro6208 » Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:24 am

So much for a hurricane. Iselle has rapidly weakened and losing it's circulation. I think the big threat is flooding.

Could it open up to a wave?
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Re: CPAC: ISELLE - Hurricane

#1186 Postby supercane4867 » Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:30 am

euro6208 wrote:So much for a hurricane. Iselle has rapidly weakened and loosing it's circulation. I think the big threat is flooding.

Could it open up to a wave?

It's losing convection but not circulation yet and wind field is nowhere close to a tropical wave
Otherwise it will take a long time for the vigorous LLC to spinning down
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#1187 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:33 am

10mph per hour, 40 miles away from land. Tonight.
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#1188 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:43 am

:uarrow: Now I feel like I'm over on the Atlantic side with talk of an open wave. :lol:
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Re: CPAC: ISELLE - Hurricane

#1189 Postby supercane4867 » Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:44 am

Last loop before off to bed...hopefully I see landfall declared when wake up a few hours later

http://www.pictureshack.us/images/90_789.gif
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#1190 Postby Equilibrium » Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:00 am

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1 Quadrant is all ready over land has been for quite some time now.

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Re: CPAC: ISELLE - Tropical Storm

#1191 Postby somethingfunny » Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:07 am

Iselle is rapidly collapsing. Winds on Mauna Kea also have dropped to 51mph sustained. The low level circulation remains vigorous however, and the heavy rainfall continues.

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BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
FLASH FLOOD WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HONOLULU HI
1200 AM HST FRI AUG 8 2014

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN HONOLULU HAS ISSUED A

* FLASH FLOOD WARNING FOR...
THE ISLAND OF HAWAII IN HAWAII COUNTY


* UNTIL 245 AM HST

* AT 1144 PM HST...RADAR SHOWED NUMEROUS BANDS OF MODERATE TO HEAVY
RAINFALL CONTINUING TO MOVE OVER THE NORTHEAST AND EAST FACING
SLOPES OF THE BIG ISLAND. STREAM GAGES WERE SHOWING STEADY RISES
WHICH SUGGEST RUNOFF LEVELS IN FLOOD PRONE AREAS OF HILO...
HAMAKUA AND WINDWARD KOHALA WERE REACHING A POINT WHERE ROAD
CLOSURES MAY BE IMMINENT OR OCCURRING.

* OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO
WAIPIO VALLEY...LAUPAHOEHOE...OOKALA...HONOKAA...WAIMEA...
HILO...KEAAU...PAHOA...MOUNTAIN VIEW...VOLCANO AND GLENWOOD.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A FLASH FLOOD WARNING MEANS FLASH FLOODING IS IMMINENT OR OCCURRING
IN STREAMS...ROADS AND LOW LYING AREAS. MOVE TO HIGHER GROUND NOW.

DO NOT CROSS FAST FLOWING OR RISING WATER IN YOUR VEHICLE OR ON FOOT.
TURN AROUND...DON/T DROWN.

&&

THIS FLASH FLOOD WARNING REPLACES THE FLOOD ADVISORY THAT WAS IN
EFFECT FOR THE ISLAND OF HAWAII IN HAWAII COUNTY.

RUNOFF FROM THIS STORM MAY ALSO CAUSE ROCK AND MUDSLIDES IN STEEP
TERRAIN.

THIS WARNING MAY NEED TO BE EXTENDED BEYOND 245 AM HST IF FLASH
FLOODING PERSISTS.
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#1192 Postby Cyclenall » Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:10 am

euro6208 wrote:So much for a hurricane. Iselle has rapidly weakened and loosing it's circulation. I think the big threat is flooding.

Could it open up to a wave?

Whoa I just had a major Deja Vu guys, I started at this post after viewing imagery and then scrolled up to read everything as it was sometime before and the exact order of users that posted each post all the way to the top :eek: . It was as if the structure eariler this year of how a discussion flowed and the current state of the activity in the basin was a perfect match to maybe something in May or last year? All I know is this was the most striking one in years...

supercane4867 wrote:Recon fix confirms center is now at almost the exact same latitude with south point
Pressure up to 1000mb...this may even die off before reaching land

I thought something like this may be possible but I forgot how tropical cyclones almost are blocked from moving when dealing with terrain like this. Watching satellite loops is amusing of this stoppage. Looks like an arc band bowing towards Hawaii.

TheStormExpert wrote::uarrow: Now I feel like I'm over on the Atlantic side with talk of an open wave. :lol:

:lol: Same. When I get disappointed in any basin, I'm reminded of the ATL. The Atlantic is a place where dreams die now :lol:.
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#1193 Postby NDG » Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:16 am

Wow!!!! What in the world happened to Iselle, lol.
Of course I know, just being sarcastic ;)

Hawaii's Gods decapitated the heck out of it, lol.
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Re: CPAC: ISELLE - Tropical Storm

#1194 Postby somethingfunny » Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:39 am

Flooding is occurring west of Hilo...

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#1195 Postby Equilibrium » Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:39 am

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#1196 Postby Frank2 » Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:57 am

Where are the pro mets - seems they disappeared once the warnings were issued, so just a guess but perhaps its a liability concern because they are at the professional level - just a thought because professionals today of any type are wary of saying too much in on-line forums for that reason, which is unfortunate but true. My former supervisor is a pro met and in his retirement is a consultant, but that is done on the client level and the legalities for his work are different than sharing his expertise on the internet, so again it might be a legal restraint in this case that causes them to have to take a step back in a sense, because they are aware of that risk as a professional - unfortunate but its the world we live in. In this case the system has become shallow and is impeded by the mountain so serious flooding potential exists as shown in the NOAA graph that was posted on this page...
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#1197 Postby AdamFirst » Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:01 am

A lot of rain and moisture is behind the core...unfortunately the big island is nowhere near done with the rain threat.
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#1198 Postby WeatherGuesser » Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:08 am

Frank2 wrote:Where are the pro mets - seems they disappeared once the warnings were issued, so just a guess but perhaps its a liability concern because they are at the professional level -


Maybe they just went to bed.

No conspiracy required.
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#1199 Postby Frank2 » Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:13 am

No conspiracy intended, but having worked for pro mets for a long time they have a professional standard like any other profession that they must abide by and that includes their being cautious when posting to social media. That's why we can never get medical advice from a doctor over the internet, or messgae board advice from any other profession for that matter...

P.S. I'm concerned about the Big Island - serious situation there...
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#1200 Postby Equilibrium » Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:34 am

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Think a few people here took a look at a weak looking satellite pic and may have under estimated this storms strength wont be surprised to see a lot of wind damage in the final wash up.

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