ATL: CRISTOBAL - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: CRISTOBAL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1581 Postby Blown Away » Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:59 am

Way to go Cristobal!! We got 2 hurricanes so far, not to bad for August 26th...
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Re: ATL: CRISTOBAL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1582 Postby Syx6sic » Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:05 am

Blown Away wrote:Way to go Cristobal!! We got 2 hurricanes so far, not to bad for August 26th...


We have had 3 hurricanes this year
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Re: ATL: CRISTOBAL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1583 Postby Blown Away » Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:11 am

Syx6sic wrote:
Blown Away wrote:Way to go Cristobal!! We got 2 hurricanes so far, not to bad for August 26th...


We have had 3 hurricanes this year


Oh yea, forgot Arthur made it... Even better, 3 canes by August 26th... :D
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Re: ATL: CRISTOBAL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1584 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:14 am

Definitley one of those quality over quantity years
back on topic this is starting to really get the frontal look based on being connected to the trough but also seems to be getting more convection around the center

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Re: ATL: CRISTOBAL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1585 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:36 am

Hurricaneman wrote:Definitley one of those quality over quantity years
back on topic this is starting to really get the frontal look based on being connected to the trough but also seems to be getting more convection around the center

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I wouldn't call Bertha a quality storm, it looked like a total mess at it's peak! :lol:
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Re: ATL: CRISTOBAL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1586 Postby WeatherGuesser » Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:21 am

Hurricaneman wrote:Definitley one of those quality over quantity years

I'd reverse that; quantity over quality.
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#1587 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:36 am

I wonder what is allowing storms to get more intense than their satellite signature?
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#1588 Postby HurricaneRyan » Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:02 am

Cristobal and Bertha being slow-burner hits like Lights by Ellie Goulding LMAO
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Re: ATL: CRISTOBAL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1589 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:03 am

WeatherGuesser wrote:
Hurricaneman wrote:Definitley one of those quality over quantity years

I'd reverse that; quantity over quality.


Was just comparing it to last year
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#1590 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:04 am

CrazyC83 wrote:I wonder what is allowing storms to get more intense than their satellite signature?


dry air and shear
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Re: ATL: CRISTOBAL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1591 Postby Hammy » Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:31 am

Convection has wrapped almost all the way around the center for the first time.
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Re: ATL: CRISTOBAL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1592 Postby Airboy » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:05 am

Hammy wrote:Convection has wrapped almost all the way around the center for the first time.


Looks like the recon finds stronger winds also, if I'm not mistaken.
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Re: ATL: CRISTOBAL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1593 Postby SapphireSea » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:29 am

I would hazard to guess that the higher winds found in Cristobal have alot to do with pressure gradients with higher pressures on each side. Shear is high all around the storm, and is likely why it still looks like part of a frontal system. As soon as it gets a shot of baroclinic energy it should take off as an extratropical system.
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#1594 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:12 pm

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Re: ATL: CRISTOBAL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1595 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:14 pm

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#1596 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:20 pm

The structure still seems, and looks, subtropical to me.
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#1597 Postby Sanibel » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:25 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:I wonder what is allowing storms to get more intense than their satellite signature?




Latent energy from untapped SST's would be my guess. Climatology. Like having a category 3 or 4 system that averages out to a category 1 after all the negatives are added in.

Cristobal is wrapping and heading NNE.
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Re: ATL: CRISTOBAL - Hurricane - Discussion

#1598 Postby SapphireSea » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:04 pm

I agree. This looks like a subtropical system. That is one huge trof extending into the straits and into the GOM. I wonder what the wind radii are; It has been windy down here in Miami (more than average anyways) I suspect that wind swath is fairly large.
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#1599 Postby TheEuropean » Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:03 pm

I added some obs of AF mission earlier and NOAA mission ongoing in Recon thread.

latest data shows pressure drop dramatically, extrapolated 978.5 mb
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#1600 Postby TheEuropean » Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:44 pm

NOAA pressure data far too low?

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URNT12 KWBC 262012
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL042014
A. 26/19:56:54Z
B. 28 deg 37 min N
071 deg 27 min W
C. NA
D. 60 kt
E. 256 deg 9 nm
F. 337 deg 53 kt
G. 254 deg 16 nm
H. 986 mb
I. 15 C / 2384 m
J. 18 C / 2421 m
K. 14 C / NA
L. OPEN EAST
M. C40
N. 12345 / NA
O. 1 / 3 nm
P. NOAA3 1704A CRISTOBAL OB 06
MAX OUTBOUND FL WIND AND MAX FL WIND 75 KT 089 / 45 NM 20:07:34Z
MAX FL TEMP 18 C 089 / 8 NM FROM FL CNTR
CNTR DROPSONDE SFC WIND 320 / 21 KTS
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