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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#61 Postby Senobia » Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:40 pm

This image is from the Gulf Coast Weather/Gulf Coast Spotters page. It was accompanied by a big long spiel about how this system is a non-issue, won't develop - blah blah. If that's the case, what are all these models seeing to track?

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#62 Postby LaBreeze » Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:40 pm

Senobia wrote:This image is from the Gulf Coast Weather/Gulf Coast Spotters page. It was accompanied by a big long spiel about how this system is a non-issue, won't develop - blah blah. If that's the case, what are all these models seeing to track?

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Exactly - but I would expect these plots to probably change.
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#63 Postby gatorcane » Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:45 pm

The 12Z UKMET is showing some development in the GOM though not as strong as the 00Z, and turns it to the NW then E at the end, similar to the GEM and NAVGEM models. When it turns E, it starts to develop:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#64 Postby Frank2 » Thu Sep 11, 2014 4:16 pm

Looking at the local radar the area of light rain is shrinking and seems to be moving west, with a twist in the echos now west of GBI, but as the NHC said northerly shear is affecting the weak low...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#65 Postby skysummit » Thu Sep 11, 2014 4:39 pm

Senobia wrote:This image is from the Gulf Coast Weather/Gulf Coast Spotters page. It was accompanied by a big long spiel about how this system is a non-issue, won't develop - blah blah. If that's the case, what are all these models seeing to track?

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"Big long spiel"???? I made the post on GCWX and was notified that it was on here so I figured I'd chime in. It's my image. Here's the post:

http://forums.gulfcoastwx.com/post/128305/thread


No where does it have a "big long spiel about how this system is a non-issue". The discussion is how upper levels are not supportive of anything threatening.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#66 Postby Senobia » Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:26 pm

skysummit wrote:
Senobia wrote:This image is from the Gulf Coast Weather/Gulf Coast Spotters page. It was accompanied by a big long spiel about how this system is a non-issue, won't develop - blah blah. If that's the case, what are all these models seeing to track?

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"Big long spiel"???? I made the post on GCWX and was notified that it was on here so I figured I'd chime in. It's my image. Here's the post:

http://forums.gulfcoastwx.com/post/128305/thread


No where does it have a "big long spiel about how this system is a non-issue". The discussion is how upper levels are not supportive of anything threatening.


Actually, no - here....is the post that *I* was referencing:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=731789350192293

early afternoon guidance on 92L. Thankfully upper level winds are expected to remain unfavorable for the life of 92L. If it were to come together in the gulf, we'd be looking at a TD or weak TS at most, but even that is pretty unlikely as of now.


From your Facebook page, via your Twitter.

Now that you're here, I'll ask you the question I posed earlier. If this system is really a non-issue, what are the models seeing in your graphic?
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#67 Postby skysummit » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:46 pm

Ahhh...gotcha.

Yes, when that post was made, upper level conditions were forecasted to be highly unfavorable in the gulf, however latest upper level forecasts have somewhat changed, and are now indicating conditions may not be all that bad in the gulf (especially the ECMWF). So while this still should not be a highly threatening system, chances are increasing that this may eventually reach TS status in the gulf, and possibly a moderate to strong one given the latest data. (one model even forecasts a hurricane in 5 days, but big grains of salt are taken with it)

It could be an interesting weekend of watching for gulf coast residents.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#68 Postby N2FSU » Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:14 am

FWIW (probably not much) the Canadian stays consistent with a westward moving storm that comes to the doorstep of LA, then turns due east and rides the coastline:

CMC 00Z +24
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#69 Postby N2FSU » Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:16 am

00Z+72

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#70 Postby N2FSU » Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:18 am

00Z +120

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#71 Postby N2FSU » Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:19 am

00Z +144

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#72 Postby N2FSU » Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:21 am

00Z +162

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#73 Postby N2FSU » Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:23 am

00Z +216

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#74 Postby N2FSU » Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:27 am

Then you have the 06Z GFS +114

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#75 Postby N2FSU » Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:42 am

Some 12Z runs

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#76 Postby Senobia » Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:53 am

N2FSU wrote:Some 12Z runs

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Again, what's with the retreat? It gets all the way to Texas, meets the cold front (that may nor may not be happening) and decides, "Ooops, wrong way, lemme turn around"?

:lol: I don't understand that recurve at all.
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#77 Postby Senobia » Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:54 am

skysummit wrote:Ahhh...gotcha.

Yes, when that post was made, upper level conditions were forecasted to be highly unfavorable in the gulf, however latest upper level forecasts have somewhat changed, and are now indicating conditions may not be all that bad in the gulf (especially the ECMWF). So while this still should not be a highly threatening system, chances are increasing that this may eventually reach TS status in the gulf, and possibly a moderate to strong one given the latest data. (one model even forecasts a hurricane in 5 days, but big grains of salt are taken with it)

It could be an interesting weekend of watching for gulf coast residents.


Okay. Thanks.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#78 Postby tolakram » Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:02 am

The 0Z euro did show a small low at 72 hours.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#79 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:55 am

N2FSU wrote:Some 12Z runs

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Time to start boarding up and gassing up vehicles and generators. :lol:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#80 Postby Nimbus » Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:56 am

I was kind of hoping 92L would stay shallow enough that it would come back to Florida and give us some rain for the winter wells.
Mexico doesn't need a cat 3.
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