ATL: HUMBERTO - Remnants - Discussion

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Re: ATL: HUMBERTO - Hurricane - Discussion

#521 Postby hurricanes1234 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:35 pm

Convection is organising around the invisible eye, a ring of 'red' runs completely around it!

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#522 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:37 pm

11/2345 UTC 18.4N 28.9W T4.5/4.5 HUMBERTO -- Atlantic
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Re: ATL: HUMBERTO - Hurricane - Discussion

#523 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:41 pm

Gustywind wrote:Looks like , given your statement, agree with that. After a "strange short lull", things are changing now. Thanks for these nice infos Ozonepete (as usual). I think that Cycloneye and the others carib friends, monitor closely all these twaves as IMO any feature could be a potential threat for any land mass area .... as we're in the peak of the season. Let's wait an see...

IDK about that yet, IMO this could have at least easily become a Cat.3 if there was less dry air and slightly less shear.
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#524 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:42 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:11/2345 UTC 18.4N 28.9W T4.5/4.5 HUMBERTO -- Atlantic

What strength would this translate to?
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#525 Postby ozonepete » Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:48 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:11/2345 UTC 18.4N 28.9W T4.5/4.5 HUMBERTO -- Atlantic

What strength would this translate to?


By itself 77 knots or 90 mph. Very close to cat 2. Cat 2 is 83 knots or 96 mph.
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#526 Postby hurricanes1234 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:50 pm

ozonepete wrote:
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CrazyC83 wrote:11/2345 UTC 18.4N 28.9W T4.5/4.5 HUMBERTO -- Atlantic

What strength would this translate to?


By itself 77 knots or 90 mph. Very close to cat 2. Cat is 83 knots or 95 mph.


Think this would become a Category 2? Also, what are the models showing with possible redevelopment in the long range?

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Re: ATL: HUMBERTO - Hurricane - Discussion

#527 Postby ozonepete » Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:57 pm

Haven't looked at long range this evening. But cat 2 is soooo close but dry air is really getting close to the core (oranges and reds). It's already flattening the west side of the core. (By flattening the west side I mean dry air is eroding the convection on the western side) Look:

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#528 Postby RL3AO » Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:00 pm

After extrapolating the center location, I measured embedded in black by 0.7 degrees which is T5.0
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Re: ATL: HUMBERTO - Hurricane - Discussion

#529 Postby hurricanes1234 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:05 pm

Best Track not issued as yet.
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#530 Postby ozonepete » Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:07 pm

RL3AO wrote:After extrapolating the center location, I measured embedded in black by 0.7 degrees which is T5.0


Love that you learned this. I'm very impressed. :) One of these days I'm going to learn how. Thanks for posting!!
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Re: ATL: HUMBERTO - Hurricane - Discussion

#531 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:08 pm

hurricanes1234 wrote:Best Track not issued as yet.


Stays at 75kts.

AL, 09, 2013091200, , BEST, 0, 185N, 289W, 75, 986, HU
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Re: ATL: HUMBERTO - Hurricane - Discussion

#532 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:12 pm

cycloneye wrote:
hurricanes1234 wrote:Best Track not issued as yet.


Stays at 75kts.

AL, 09, 2013091200, , BEST, 0, 185N, 289W, 75, 986, HU

A little low, in my opinion.
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Re: ATL: HUMBERTO - Hurricane - Discussion

#533 Postby hurricanes1234 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:16 pm

TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:
cycloneye wrote:
hurricanes1234 wrote:Best Track not issued as yet.


Stays at 75kts.

AL, 09, 2013091200, , BEST, 0, 185N, 289W, 75, 986, HU

A little low, in my opinion.


Exactly, this storm has managed to develop a complete ring of convection around the eye, and it looks even better than this afternoon. I would assume they leave it at 75 knots, but Humberto looks like at least 80 knots. Just my opinion.

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Re: ATL: HUMBERTO - Hurricane - Discussion

#534 Postby hurricanes1234 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:19 pm

Oh, wait, the pressure dropped. My bad. :oops:

AL, 09, 2013091200, , BEST, 0, 185N, 289W, 75, 982, HU,
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#535 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:40 pm

It looks more like a T5.0 to me as well. I'd have had it at 85 kt through the late afternoon and evening.
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Re: ATL: HUMBERTO - Hurricane - Discussion

#536 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:41 pm

hurricanes1234 wrote:Oh, wait, the pressure dropped. My bad. :oops:

AL, 09, 2013091200, , BEST, 0, 185N, 289W, 75, 982, HU,


Probably reflective of the larger size of the storm. Larger storms tend to have lower pressures, and 982mb is slightly above the Dvorak normal (980mb) for 75 kt.
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#537 Postby hurricanes1234 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:44 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:It looks more like a T5.0 to me as well. I'd have had it at 85 kt through the late afternoon and evening.


Yes, I strongly agree with this. Humberto has managed to develop a cloud-filled eye with a ring of deep convection completely around it. I would say 90 mph at the very least, but with the pressure drop, it now seems a tad more realistic.

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#538 Postby Alyono » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:00 pm

looks like a 4.5 at most
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Re: ATL: HUMBERTO - Hurricane - Discussion

#539 Postby ozonepete » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:02 pm

Looks to me like it may be moving NNE in the last couple of hours, which I would think is a temporary jog. And that is actually good for avoiding the dry air. In the last few frames the core has been holding tight with nice convection and the dry air hasn't gotten in there.
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#540 Postby ozonepete » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:05 pm

Alyono wrote:looks like a 4.5 at most


?? Even conservative CIMSS ADT has it at 4.6.
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