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#101 Postby RobWESTPACWX » Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:24 am

StormingB81 wrote:Following is an explanation posted by Kadena Air Base’s Facebook page:

"Team Kadena: The 18th Wing Commander declared Tropical Cyclone Condition of Readiness (TCCOR) Storm Watch for Okinawa, Japan effective 1743L (5:43 p.m. local) on 09JUL2013. This TCCOR will stay in effect unless the 18th OSS/OSW forecasts and recommends a change in condition.


I have been asked about that a few times today. I see this is the first time "storm watch" has been used. A part of revised warnings after last years marathon of storms. Basically under 50kt winds but hey you never know it could be worst so we will cover our butts.
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Re: WPAC: SOULIK- Typhoon

#102 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:32 am

This should be upgraded to a Category 5 in the next warning!

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#103 Postby StormingB81 » Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:34 am

Rob I will be leaving work soon and will try to get a hold of some friends still there if I hear anything I will post it.
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#104 Postby RL3AO » Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:35 am

I don't think its quite that strong, but it looks to be around 130kt this morning. The eye has really become well defined.
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#105 Postby RobWESTPACWX » Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:48 am

StormingB81 wrote:Rob I will be leaving work soon and will try to get a hold of some friends still there if I hear anything I will post it.



Thanks, the westpacwx facebook page is loaded with Okinawa Military folk right now. Even though the island will not be sharing in on the worst of it. I think Ive passed that on over a dozen times today. Fair enough though, its really one monster of a storm.

Our friend James is in Taiwan now. I think those are the people that need to watch out for this. There and in Ishigaki, about 50k residents living on the island.
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Re: WPAC: SOULIK- Typhoon

#106 Postby mrbagyo » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:05 am

PAGASA just issued Public Storm Warning Signal NO. 1 over the Batanes group of Island - that means 45-60 kph winds can be expected within the next 36 hours..

Soulik looks good but the convection around the eye really looks "thin" as of now
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#107 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:08 am

mrbagyo wrote:PAGASA just issued Public Storm Warning Signal NO. 1 over the Batanes group of Island - that means 45-60 kph winds can be expected within the next 36 hours..

Soulik looks good but the convection around the eye really looks "thin" as of now

I agree. It really needs to have more convection to strengthen.
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Re: WPAC: SOULIK- Typhoon

#108 Postby mrbagyo » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:40 am

Now down to 925 mb... and when did you last saw the word "VIOLENT" in JMA's forecast

TY 1307 (SOULIK)
Issued at 12:45 UTC, 10 July 2013

<Analyses at 10/12 UTC>
Scale -
Intensity Very Strong
Center position N21°50'(21.8°)
E133°30'(133.5°)
Direction and speed of movement WNW 20km/h(11kt)
Central pressure 925hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 50m/s(100kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 70m/s(140kt)
Area of 50kt winds or more ALL190km(100NM)
Area of 30kt winds or more E500km(270NM)
W440km(240NM)

<Forecast for 11/00 UTC>
Intensity Very Strong
Center position of probability circle N21°55'(21.9°)
E130°50'(130.8°)
Direction and speed of movement W 20km/h(12kt)
Central pressure 920hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 50m/s(100kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 70m/s(140kt)
Radius of probability circle 90km(50NM)
Storm warning area ALL300km(160NM)

<Forecast for 11/12 UTC>
Intensity Violent
Center position of probability circle N22°20'(22.3°)
E128°20'(128.3°)
Direction and speed of movement W 20km/h(12kt)
Central pressure 915hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 55m/s(105kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 75m/s(150kt)
Radius of probability circle 140km(75NM)
Storm warning area ALL370km(200NM)

<Forecast for 12/12 UTC>
Intensity Very Strong
Center position of probability circle N23°55'(23.9°)
E123°35'(123.6°)
Direction and speed of movement WNW 20km/h(12kt)
Central pressure 925hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 45m/s(90kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 65m/s(130kt)
Radius of probability circle 260km(140NM)
Storm warning area ALL500km(270NM)

<Forecast for 13/12 UTC>
Intensity Strong
Center position of probability circle N26°50'(26.8°)
E119°00'(119.0°)
Direction and speed of movement NW 25km/h(13kt)
Central pressure 950hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 40m/s(80kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 60m/s(115kt)
Radius of probability circle 390km(210NM)
Storm warning area ALL650km(350NM)
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Re: WPAC: SOULIK- Typhoon

#109 Postby stormstrike » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:05 am

mrbagyo wrote:Now down to 925 mb... and when did you last saw the word "VIOLENT" in JMA's forecast

TY 1307 (SOULIK)
Issued at 12:45 UTC, 10 July 2013

<Analyses at 10/12 UTC>
Scale -
Intensity Very Strong
Center position N21°50'(21.8°)
E133°30'(133.5°)
Direction and speed of movement WNW 20km/h(11kt)
Central pressure 925hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 50m/s(100kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 70m/s(140kt)
Area of 50kt winds or more ALL190km(100NM)
Area of 30kt winds or more E500km(270NM)
W440km(240NM)

<Forecast for 11/00 UTC>
Intensity Very Strong
Center position of probability circle N21°55'(21.9°)
E130°50'(130.8°)
Direction and speed of movement W 20km/h(12kt)
Central pressure 920hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 50m/s(100kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 70m/s(140kt)
Radius of probability circle 90km(50NM)
Storm warning area ALL300km(160NM)

<Forecast for 11/12 UTC>
Intensity Violent
Center position of probability circle N22°20'(22.3°)
E128°20'(128.3°)
Direction and speed of movement W 20km/h(12kt)
Central pressure 915hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 55m/s(105kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 75m/s(150kt)
Radius of probability circle 140km(75NM)
Storm warning area ALL370km(200NM)

<Forecast for 12/12 UTC>
Intensity Very Strong
Center position of probability circle N23°55'(23.9°)
E123°35'(123.6°)
Direction and speed of movement WNW 20km/h(12kt)
Central pressure 925hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 45m/s(90kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 65m/s(130kt)
Radius of probability circle 260km(140NM)
Storm warning area ALL500km(270NM)

<Forecast for 13/12 UTC>
Intensity Strong
Center position of probability circle N26°50'(26.8°)
E119°00'(119.0°)
Direction and speed of movement NW 25km/h(13kt)
Central pressure 950hPa
Maximum wind speed near the center 40m/s(80kt)
Maximum wind gust speed 60m/s(115kt)
Radius of probability circle 390km(210NM)
Storm warning area ALL650km(350NM)


Bopha 2012 :)
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Re: WPAC: SOULIK- Typhoon

#110 Postby Typhoon Hunter » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:15 am

Dry air mixing in to Soulik? Convection starting to look ragged now. Interesting!
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#111 Postby StormingB81 » Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:17 am

Ok so I talked with a friend in Okinawa. They have changed the way they call TCCOR's. Seeing how they had a problem with a lot of people not talking the proper precautions If a storm is close enough to feel a significant amount of bad weather but not enough for TCCOR's they will issue storm watch. So people no that the weather could be pretty nasty but not warrant any TCCOR changes. According to Kadena weather than can feel gusts from 40-50 knots. That is why the put out the storm watch.
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Re: WPAC: SOULIK- Typhoon

#112 Postby dexterlabio » Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:42 am

The eye looks really intense but convection-wise it's kinda horrid. We'll see when diurnal max comes, but I heard strong systems like this don't get affected much by dmax/dmin...


Though I have to say Soulik looks more impressive than some supertyphoons we've had, like Nalgae in 2011. I know convection is somewhat poor right now and there could be an eyewall replacement going on, but there's still plenty of time before it reaches Taiwan. Besides, ECMWF cranks up the system east of Taiwan.
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Re: WPAC: SOULIK- Typhoon

#113 Postby mrbagyo » Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:48 am

awesome!!!
but it looks like an Eye Wall Replacement Cycle is underway

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my observation was confirmed on JTWC's latest prognostic

JTWC also noted it's passage over a pocket of low ocean heat content value.
If this is tracking with a little lower latitude, it wont experience that drought of convection .


WDPN31 PGTW 101500
MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI//
SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR TYPHOON 07W (SOULIK) WARNING NR 12//
RMKS//
1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS.
2. 6 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS.
TYPHOON (TY) 07W (SOULIK), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 420 NM
SOUTHEASTWARD OF KADENA AB, HAS TRACKED WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT 13
KNOTS OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS. TY 07W HAS MAINTAINED EXCELLENT
RADIAL OUTFLOW OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS; HOWEVER, ANIMATED INFRARED
SATELLITE IMAGERY INDICATES WEAKENING CORE CONVECTION ALTHOUGH THE
SYSTEM HAS RETAINED A 25-NM ROUND EYE. IT APPEARS THAT THIS
WEAKENING TREND CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO THE SYSTEM'S PASSAGE OVER A
POCKET OF VERY LOW OCEAN HEAT CONTENT (OHC) VALUES AS WELL AS A
POSSIBLE INCIPIENT EYEWALL REPLACEMENT CYCLE (ERC). A 100831Z SSMIS
IMAGE HINTS AT THE ERC AND SHOWS A SMALL INNER EYEWALL (30 NM
DIAMETER) SURROUNDED BY A LARGE (160 NM DIAMETER) RING OF DEEP
CONVECTION.
DVORAK CURRENT INTENSITY ESTIMATES REMAIN STABLE AT T6.5
(127 KNOTS) WHILE THE FINAL-T ESTIMATES FROM PGTW AND KNES HAVE
DECREASED TO T6.0 (115 KNOTS), THEREFORE, THE INITIAL INTENSITY WAS
ASSESSED AT 120 KNOTS. THERE IS GOOD CONFIDENCE IN THE INITIAL
POSITION BASED ON THE SMALL EYE FEATURE. A 100308Z OCEANSAT IMAGE
SUPPORTS THE CURRENT WIND RADII AND CONFIRMS AN EXTENSIVE WIND FIELD
WITH 15 TO 25 KNOT EASTERLY TO NORTHEASTERLY GRADIENT WINDS OVER THE
NORTHERN PERIPHERY OF THE SYSTEM EXTENDING AS FAR NORTH AS 29N
LATITUDE, ENHANCED BY A SHARP RIDGE POSITIONED ALONG 30N LATITUDE.
RECENT UPPER-AIR DATA EVIDENCES A STRONG SUBTROPICAL RIDGE (STR)
EXTENDING WESTWARD OVER THE RYUKYUS AND INTO THE EAST CHINA SEA
ALONG ABOUT 30N LATITUDE. TY 07W IS TRACKING GENERALLY WEST-
NORTHWESTWARD ALONG THE SOUTHERN PERIPHERY OF THIS EAST-WEST
ORIENTED STR.
3. FORECAST REASONING.
A. THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO THE FORECAST PHILOSOPHY
SINCE THE PREVIOUS PROGNOSTIC REASONING MESSAGE.
B. UNDER THE STEERING INFLUENCE OF THE DEEP STR, TY 07W WILL
CONTINUE TO TRACK WESTWARD TO WEST-NORTHWESTWARD THROUGH TAU 72.
DYNAMIC MODEL GUIDANCE IS IN TIGHT AGREEMENT THROUGH TAU 72 WITH A
150-NM SPREAD IN SOLUTIONS AT TAU 72. ANIMATED WATER VAPOR IMAGERY
AS WELL AS THE 10/00Z UPPER-LEVEL ANALYSIS SHOW A 200MB RIDGE
EXTENDING ACROSS CHINA INTO KOREA AND JAPAN; THE WEAK SHORTWAVE
TROUGH OVER MONGOLIA IS PROPAGATING SLOWLY EAST-NORTHEASTWARD WITHIN
THE MIDLATITUDE WESTERLIES AND, AS EXPECTED, IS HAVING NEGLIGIBLE
IMPACT ON THE STR. DUE TO THE LOW OHC VALUES AND POSSIBLE ERC, THERE
IS UNCERTAINTY IN THE INTENSITY FORECAST WITH CONTINUED WEAKENING
LIKELY IN THE SHORT TERM; HOWEVER, OHC VALUES WILL INCREASE AFTER
TAU 12 AND RADIAL OUTFLOW SHOULD PROVIDE A FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENT AND
SHORT WINDOW FOR RE-INTENSIFICATION TO A PEAK OF 130 KNOTS BY TAU
24. AFTER TAU 24, THE SYSTEM WILL GRADUALLY WEAKEN AS IT ENCOUNTERS
INCREASING NORTHERLY VERTICAL WIND SHEAR (20 TO 25 KNOTS). AFTER TAU
48, TY 07W WILL SIGNIFICANTLY WEAKEN AS IT INTERACTS WITH TAIWAN.
C. IN THE EXTENDED PERIOD, TY 07W WILL MAKE LANDFALL BY TAU 72
THEN RE-CURVE NORTHWARD ALONG THE WESTERN PERIPHERY OF THE STR. THE
DYNAMIC AIDS DIVERGE BUT NOW THE BULK OF THE GUIDANCE SUPPORTS A RE-
CURVE OVER LAND WITH THE REMNANTS RE-EMERGING OVER THE YELLOW SEA.
THERE IS HIGH CONFIDENCE IN THE JTWC FORECAST TRACK. THE SYSTEM IS
FORECAST TO WEAKEN RAPIDLY DUE TO FRICTIONAL EFFECTS OVER LAND AND
INCREASED VERTICAL WIND SHEAR.//
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#114 Postby dexterlabio » Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:11 am

Looks like GFS is going for Taiwan landfall. The 12z run reminds me a lot of Haitang. Speaking of GFS, it's also starting to show a new system early next week...more ensemble members are showing this.
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#115 Postby Ntxw » Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:17 am

Does seem like some kind of eye replacement cycle may be under way

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Re: WPAC: SOULIK- Typhoon

#116 Postby mrbagyo » Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:18 am

let's compare the convection of Soulik vs the world's strongest Tropical cyclone last year .
Soulik
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Sanba
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#117 Postby dexterlabio » Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:38 am

^That comparison pretty much explains why Soulik isn't a Cat5 yet. So close but still has to work on the convection. Warmer sea surface temperature between Taiwan and Luzon may help in the coming day/s.
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#118 Postby Dave C » Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:20 pm

Clearly seems to be suffering some from dry air entrainment, water vapor shows lots of dry air around the outer part of the system. Excellent outflow still :eek:
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#119 Postby dexterlabio » Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:42 pm

dry air and EWRC...it's interesting if the core will recover, the eye just got ruined. :lol:
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#120 Postby Hurricane_Luis » Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:58 pm

The eye has completely collapsed in on itself, probably another Eye Wall Replacement Cycle.
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