EPAC: ANDRES - Post-Tropical

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#341 Postby Ntxw » Sun May 31, 2015 10:00 pm

It is happening, symmetrical and scary beautiful

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#342 Postby Hurricane Jed » Sun May 31, 2015 10:00 pm

If this does make Cat 5, it'll easily best Ava for earliest Cat 5 for the EPAC.
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#343 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun May 31, 2015 10:00 pm

Any warming of the eye, and IMO, this has 140 locked up.
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#344 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun May 31, 2015 10:01 pm

Kingarabian wrote:NHC might have to do a special advisory soon.


I was thinking that myself.
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#345 Postby Kingarabian » Sun May 31, 2015 10:04 pm

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Has to be a Cat 5. Waiting for ADT to update to confirm.
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#346 Postby TheAustinMan » Sun May 31, 2015 10:04 pm

Hurricane Andres has certainly been an entertaining tropical cyclone, and unusual in how its been strengthening at ease over the past 24 hours even with roadblocks setting themselves up. It's a very beautiful hurricane right now, and perhaps it'll strengthen a bit more, but I think the conditions 24-36 hours from now are going to be too negative for Andres to keep this up unless it manages to somehow pull itself out of harms way.
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#347 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun May 31, 2015 10:07 pm

This is Celia 10 all over again.
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#348 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun May 31, 2015 10:13 pm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 01 JUN 2015 Time : 023000 UTC
Lat : 15:14:29 N Lon : 119:12:41 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
6.4 / 938.8mb/124.6kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
6.4 6.5 6.5

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 20 km

Center Temp : +6.9C Cloud Region Temp : -70.1C

Scene Type : EYE

Seems off
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#349 Postby Kingarabian » Sun May 31, 2015 10:17 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 01 JUN 2015 Time : 023000 UTC
Lat : 15:14:29 N Lon : 119:12:41 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
6.4 / 938.8mb/124.6kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
6.4 6.5 6.5

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 20 km

Center Temp : +6.9C Cloud Region Temp : -70.1C

Scene Type : EYE

Seems off


It does. Or maybe TropicalAnalystwx13 is right and we need -80C?
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#350 Postby tolakram » Sun May 31, 2015 10:17 pm

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#351 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun May 31, 2015 10:18 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
Yellow Evan wrote:----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 01 JUN 2015 Time : 023000 UTC
Lat : 15:14:29 N Lon : 119:12:41 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
6.4 / 938.8mb/124.6kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
6.4 6.5 6.5

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 20 km

Center Temp : +6.9C Cloud Region Temp : -70.1C

Scene Type : EYE

Seems off


It does. Or maybe TropicalAnalystwx13 is right and we need -80C?


Marie didn't have -80C and it was a Cat 5.
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#352 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun May 31, 2015 10:18 pm

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#353 Postby Kingarabian » Sun May 31, 2015 10:20 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:Image


With those -80C clouds increasing it has to be at least 7.1-7.2.
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#354 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun May 31, 2015 10:21 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
Yellow Evan wrote:Image


With those -80C clouds increasing it has to be at least 7.1-7.2.


Either ADT is underdoing the eye or it is cooling.
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#355 Postby talkon » Sun May 31, 2015 10:29 pm

For a 7.0, the eye needs to be WMG (9C+) with a 0.5 deg ring of white.
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#356 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun May 31, 2015 10:30 pm

Krit-tonkla wrote:For a 7.0, the eye needs to be WMG (9C+) with a 0.5 deg ring of white.


It has the latter, and is close to the former.
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#357 Postby talkon » Sun May 31, 2015 10:34 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:
Krit-tonkla wrote:For a 7.0, the eye needs to be WMG (9C+) with a 0.5 deg ring of white.


It has the latter, and is close to the former.


The white ring is smaller than 0.5 deg.

BTW, this is a different 03:00 image, which looks stronger.
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#358 Postby TheStormExpert » Sun May 31, 2015 10:34 pm

Looks like the GFS was right with it's crazy low pressure it had for this storm days ago! Kudos to the GFS!!

Once again the NHC really underperformed in terms of intensity only forecasting 80kts(90mph) at its peak.

Intensity is still a really tricky thing to forecast with these storms and hurricanes and last season in the East Pacific they underestimated the intensity of about 75% of their storms it seemed to me.

I'm in no way trying to cut on the NHC or anyone I'm just pointing out the obvious that we have a ways to go before we nearly perfect intensity forecasts just like we are now doing in terms of forecast tracks.
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#359 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun May 31, 2015 10:37 pm

Krit-tonkla wrote:
Yellow Evan wrote:
Krit-tonkla wrote:For a 7.0, the eye needs to be WMG (9C+) with a 0.5 deg ring of white.


It has the latter, and is close to the former.


The white ring is smaller than 0.5 deg.

BTW, this is a different 03:00 image, which looks stronger.
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Depends how you measure it.
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#360 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun May 31, 2015 10:49 pm

Center fix off, but



UW - CIMSS
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ADT-Version 8.2.1
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----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 01 JUN 2015 Time : 030000 UTC
Lat : 15:15:00 N Lon : 119:08:53 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
6.5 / 936.6mb/127.0kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
6.5 6.5 6.5

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 20 km

Center Temp : +6.2C Cloud Region Temp : -70.1C
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