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#61 Postby Alyono » Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:27 am

Kingarabian wrote:06z GFS and 00z Euro have a depression clearing the islands. Confusing.

It has a nice anti cyclone situated over it to disperess the Hawaiian shear and I'd side with the intensity models of having a decent cane. From the looks of it, we could see a classification tomorrow.

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the global models have bogus development ahead of the system
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#62 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:34 am

Alyono wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:06z GFS and 00z Euro have a depression clearing the islands. Confusing.

It has a nice anti cyclone situated over it to disperess the Hawaiian shear and I'd side with the intensity models of having a decent cane. From the looks of it, we could see a classification tomorrow.

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the global models have bogus development ahead of the system


What's stopping development? SHIPS is making this a hurricane, and these models are usually too low in the EPAC?
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#63 Postby Alyono » Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:51 am

Yellow Evan wrote:
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Kingarabian wrote:06z GFS and 00z Euro have a depression clearing the islands. Confusing.

It has a nice anti cyclone situated over it to disperess the Hawaiian shear and I'd side with the intensity models of having a decent cane. From the looks of it, we could see a classification tomorrow.

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the global models have bogus development ahead of the system


What's stopping development? SHIPS is making this a hurricane, and these models are usually too low in the EPAC?


reread my post. 95E is the bogus development
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#64 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:52 am

Alyono wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:06z GFS and 00z Euro have a depression clearing the islands. Confusing.

It has a nice anti cyclone situated over it to disperess the Hawaiian shear and I'd side with the intensity models of having a decent cane. From the looks of it, we could see a classification tomorrow.

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the global models have bogus development ahead of the system


Bogus development in terms of intensity or something else? Right now it looks close to a TD and both the GFS and Euro have a depression clearing the islands to the north.

Edit: Now I understand. How does the artifical development of 95e affect the track?
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#65 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:12 am

Alyono wrote:
reread my post. 95E is the bogus development


Oh, gotcha. Makes sense then. Global models still sometimes overdue crap in the CPAC.
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Re: EPAC: INVEST 96E

#66 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:19 am

Gonzo for Wednesday and a fix also on that day.

PACIFIC REQUIREMENTS
1. FLIGHT ONE -NOAA 49-
A. 08/0000Z
B. NOAA9 0196E SURV
C. 07/1730Z
D. NA
E. NA
F. 41,000 TO 45,000 FT

2. SUCCEEDING DAY OUTLOOK:
A. FIX A DEVELOPING CENTRAL PACIFIC SYSTEM AT
08/1800Z NEAR 17.0N 143.2W.
B. A POSSIBLE G-IV MISSION FOR 09/0000Z.
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#67 Postby Alyono » Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:06 am

the bogus development of 95E is sending this too far north
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#68 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:09 am

Alyono wrote:the bogus development of 95E is sending this too far north


Happened during Iselle as well for a while.
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#69 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:34 pm

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1100 AM PDT MON JUL 6 2015

For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:

A large low pressure system located about 1600 miles east-southeast
of the Big Island of Hawaii continues to produce a large area of
disorganized shower and thunderstorm activity. Environmental
conditions are expected to become more conducive for development,
and a tropical depression could form during the next day or two
while the system moves west-northwestward at 15 to 20 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...60 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...90 percent

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#70 Postby Alyono » Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:17 pm

starting to organize. However, I notice that the models are really backing off on developing this. Not sure why as the environment looks favorable
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#71 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:33 pm

Just needs more convection near the center. Outflow looks established.

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#72 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:35 pm

Alyono wrote:starting to organize. However, I notice that the models are really backing off on developing this. Not sure why as the environment looks favorable


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#73 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:37 pm

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
500 PM PDT MON JUL 6 2015

For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:

Showers and thunderstorms associated with the large area of low
pressure located about 1450 miles east-southeast of the Big Island
of Hawaii are gradually becoming better organized. Environmental
conditions are expected to be conducive for development, and a
tropical cyclone will likely form over the next day or two while
the system moves west-northwestward at 15 to 20 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...high...70 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...90 percent

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#74 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:05 pm

Alyono wrote:starting to organize. However, I notice that the models are really backing off on developing this. Not sure why as the environment looks favorable


Models have low bias in this basin.
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#75 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:14 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:
Alyono wrote:starting to organize. However, I notice that the models are really backing off on developing this. Not sure why as the environment looks favorable


Models have low bias in this basin.


Just 2 days ago, GFS was actually showing a Cat.2 landfall and the Euro had a strong TS/minimal hurricane landfall.
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#76 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:54 pm

EPAC EP, 96, 2015070700, , BEST, 0, 121N, 1342W, 30, 1005, LO, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1010, 250, 50, 0, 0, E, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 008,
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#77 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:54 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
Yellow Evan wrote:
Alyono wrote:starting to organize. However, I notice that the models are really backing off on developing this. Not sure why as the environment looks favorable


Models have low bias in this basin.


Just 2 days ago, GFS was actually showing a Cat.2 landfall and the Euro had a strong TS/minimal hurricane landfall.


Generally, forecasts go down after 2 days of no development.
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#78 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:20 pm

Beginning stages of a CDO?

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Re: EPAC: INVEST 96E

#79 Postby hawaiigirl » Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:50 pm

when is this expected to reach Oahu? I have a wedding on Wednesday
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#80 Postby Alyono » Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:02 pm

looks very close to TD status. Won't affect the Wednesday wedding
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