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Re: ATL: JOAQUIN - Models

#1221 Postby Jevo » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:16 pm

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Re: ATL: JOAQUIN - Models

#1222 Postby stormlover2013 » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:18 pm

Guys it still shows it missing east coast
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Re: ATL: JOAQUIN - Models

#1223 Postby ninel conde » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:20 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:Guys it still shows it missing east coast


I think it will miss but if it gets any closer the outer banks and se va will have a major coastal flood.
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Re: ATL: JOAQUIN - Models

#1224 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:20 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:Guys it still shows it missing east coast


One word my friend, trends. Anyone who has followed the tropics for years knows the trend is your friend, or enemy in certain cases. These continued undulations in model output are troubling.
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Re: ATL: JOAQUIN - Models

#1225 Postby stormlover2013 » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:21 pm

And gfs trend has been horrible for this hurricane
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#1226 Postby windnrain » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:21 pm

Yup. Everyone said trend is your friend when GFS started trending north then OTS.

Same thing applies.
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#1227 Postby ninel conde » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:22 pm

JB hasnt tweeted about nam or GFS yet.
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#1228 Postby Alyono » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:22 pm

UKMET makes a massive east shift. It is very similar to the EC
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Re: ATL: JOAQUIN - Models

#1229 Postby stormlover2013 » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:22 pm

And u can't even count the nam that's worse then the Cmc
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Re: ATL: JOAQUIN - Models

#1230 Postby SunnyThoughts » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:23 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:Guys it still shows it missing east coast



yes stormlover, thankfully. But I was taught long ago about models to watch trends. Not the exact location any landmass is hit by a storm, but the trends are what you watch. When all the models, ( or the major ones) start trending in one direction..They are on to something. Now whether the euro trends west at all is to be determined in a couple hours. And who knows, even if it does trend west a little, tomorrow they could all trend back east again considering the fluid dynamics in play from Ida and the cut off.
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#1231 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:24 pm

Too much uncertainty still at this point for my liking. Hopefully the model trends will sync up, more or less, tomorrow.
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Re: ATL: JOAQUIN - Models

#1232 Postby ninel conde » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:24 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:And u can't even count the nam that's worse then the Cmc


true, its certainly not going to hit SC
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Re: ATL: JOAQUIN - Models

#1233 Postby stormlover2013 » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:26 pm

Nam is so bad, nobody uses the nam for hurricane anymore, gfs could be right but gfs has done horrible with this....Cmc,nam,navy, they have all done horrendous
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Re: ATL: JOAQUIN - Models

#1234 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:28 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:Nam is so bad, nobody uses the nam for hurricane anymore, gfs could be right but gfs has done horrible with this....Cmc,nam,navy, they have all done horrendous


Of course every model has been horrendous this season, thus why I have little confidence in the projected long range track of Joaquin at this point.
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Re: ATL: JOAQUIN - Models

#1235 Postby Happy Pelican » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:28 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:Guys it still shows it missing east coast


It's already flooding here (Jersey shore) from the first storm.
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Re: ATL: JOAQUIN - Models

#1236 Postby Hammy » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:29 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:Nam is so bad, nobody uses the nam for hurricane anymore, gfs could be right but gfs has done horrible with this....Cmc,nam,navy, they have all done horrendous


NAM is decent but you have to use the 4km version (goes out to 68 hours). The 32km/16km are worse than CMC.
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Re: ATL: JOAQUIN - Models

#1237 Postby stormlover2013 » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:30 pm

No gfs and euro have done ok, euro has done pretty good once the system has formed and struggled on weak systems but euro has been dang good the last 2-3 weeks
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Re: ATL: JOAQUIN - Models

#1238 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:30 pm

The spilt flow in the situation is so thin and close..any minor shift makes it go way right or way left....this case is one to be studied later on..literally which flow separated by a thin line does it go with? Just my opinion
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Re: ATL: JOAQUIN - Models

#1239 Postby stormlover2013 » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:31 pm

I have 3 buddies that are meteorologist and if I told them the nam is decent they would look at my and laugh
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#1240 Postby PTrackerLA » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:32 pm

Will be interesting to see the 00z GFS Ensembles with that significant westward shift in the OP. Definitely not a shoe-in OTS maybe even less-so than this afternoon, Just my opinion of course.
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