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#201 Postby 1900hurricane » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:10 am

The ventilation is ridiculous, especially through the poleward outflow channel. Chapala is starting to gain some visual similarities to storms like Maysak, Mitch, and Paka, although not yet to the level of those storms.
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#202 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:11 am

Alyono wrote:and of course JT lowers the winds and forecasts steady weakening to a 70 kt cyclone at landfall

They have not had a good grasp at all on these eyewall replacements


Here's your answer why:

TPIO11 PGTW 011139

A. TROPICAL CYCLONE 04A (CHAPALA)

B. 01/1130Z

C. 13.61N

D. 54.61E

E. ONE/MET7

F. T5.0/5.5/W0.5/24HRS STT: D0.5/03HRS

G. IR/EIR/VIS/MSI

H. REMARKS: 07A/PBO IRREG EYE/ANMTN. 5NM OW EYE SURROUNDED BY
LG YIELDS AN E# OF 5.0. ADDED .5 FOR EYE ADJUSTMENT TO YIELD A
DT OF 5.5. PT AND MET YIELD A 5.0. DBO PT AND MET.

I. ADDITIONAL POSITIONS:
01/0539Z 13.42N 55.75E MMHS
01/0634Z 13.33N 55.85E MMHS
01/0917Z 13.30N 54.88E ATMS
01/1018Z 13.38N 54.80E MMHS


UEHARA

Why is FT based off of PT and MET which shouldn't even be 5.0 anyway?
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#203 Postby NotoSans » Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:49 am

showing signs of restrengthening. eyewall has become more solid on microwave and eye is becoming less ragged on EIR.
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#204 Postby 1900hurricane » Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:57 am

Yep, definitely. Eye temp is back positive too.
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#205 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:33 pm

Seems to have really moved out while also becoming annular. That solid classic W ring now surrounds a warm eye. Before too long, I could see this reaching Cat 5.
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#206 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:00 pm

What are the water temperatures in that part of the world? Can they support a Cat 5?
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#207 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:03 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:
Alyono wrote:and of course JT lowers the winds and forecasts steady weakening to a 70 kt cyclone at landfall

They have not had a good grasp at all on these eyewall replacements


Here's your answer why:

TPIO11 PGTW 011139

A. TROPICAL CYCLONE 04A (CHAPALA)

B. 01/1130Z

C. 13.61N

D. 54.61E

E. ONE/MET7

F. T5.0/5.5/W0.5/24HRS STT: D0.5/03HRS

G. IR/EIR/VIS/MSI

H. REMARKS: 07A/PBO IRREG EYE/ANMTN. 5NM OW EYE SURROUNDED BY
LG YIELDS AN E# OF 5.0. ADDED .5 FOR EYE ADJUSTMENT TO YIELD A
DT OF 5.5. PT AND MET YIELD A 5.0. DBO PT AND MET.

I. ADDITIONAL POSITIONS:
01/0539Z 13.42N 55.75E MMHS
01/0634Z 13.33N 55.85E MMHS
01/0917Z 13.30N 54.88E ATMS
01/1018Z 13.38N 54.80E MMHS


UEHARA

Why is FT based off of PT and MET which shouldn't even be 5.0 anyway?


I would consider it a T6.0 looking at the satellite imagery. Some large eye storms with Recon have shown a somewhat lower intensity though than Dvorak suggested (examples Isabel, Bill, Earl, Igor). As a result I'd set the current intensity at 110 kt. That said, the RMW is likely quite large now.
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#208 Postby Alyono » Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:19 pm

Not sure if this is from Chapala or Lake Chapala from Patricia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7ZDvka6m8U
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#209 Postby Alyono » Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:17 pm

there is an increasing chance that this will go west of Al Mukalla. Of course, that still destroys Mukalla due to the surge and wind, and brings even more populated areas into play
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#210 Postby terstorm1012 » Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:29 pm

Alyono wrote:Not sure if this is from Chapala or Lake Chapala from Patricia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7ZDvka6m8U


hard to tell, although i don't think the high winds from Patricia arrived at Lake Chapala until after dark. The video's too grainy to tell.

Might be closer to the coast in Mexico if it's not from Yemen
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Re: Arabian Sea: CHAPALA - Extremely Severe Cyclonic Storm

#211 Postby euro6208 » Sun Nov 01, 2015 4:45 pm

Strong cat 3 and still forecast to weaken by time of landfall.

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REMARKS:
012100Z POSITION NEAR 13.3N 53.1E.
TROPICAL CYCLONE (TC) 04A (CHAPALA), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 520 NM
SOUTHWEST OF MASIRAH ISLAND, HAS TRACKED WESTWARD AT 10 KNOTS
OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS. ANIMATED ENHANCED INFRARED (EIR) SATELLITE
IMAGERY DEPICTS AN IMPROVEMENT IN THE OVERALL CONVECTIVE SIGNATURE
SURROUNDING AN ENLARGED 20-NM EYE. A 011550Z SSMIS 91GHZ MICROWAVE
IMAGE FURTHER SHOWS THE STRENGTHENING WITHIN THE CONVECTIVE CORE
WHICH, IN ADDITION TO DVORAK CURRENT INTENSITY ESTIMATES RANGING
FROM 102 TO 115 KNOTS, SUPPORTS THE INITIAL INTENSITY BEING
INCREASED TO 110 KNOTS. THE CURRENT POSITION IS BASED ON THE EYE
FEATURE IN THE EIR LOOP WITH HIGH CONFIDENCE. WATER VAPOR IMAGERY
REVEALS AN IMPROVED POLEWARD OUTFLOW CHANNEL WHICH IS SUPPORTING THE
INTENSIFICATION IN CENTRAL CONVECTION. SOUTHERLY VERTICAL WIND SHEAR
(VWS) REMAINS AT 10 TO 15 KNOTS. TC 04A IS TRACKING ALONG THE
SOUTHERN PERIPHERY OF A DEEP-LAYERED SUBTROPICAL RIDGE (STR) TO THE
NORTH. THE CYCLONE WILL CONTINUE TRACKING WESTWARD TOWARDS THE COAST
OF YEMEN, MAKING LANDFALL NEAR TAU 36. THE TRACK HAS SHIFTED
WESTWARD AS THE STEERING STR STRENGTHENS AND EXTENDS FURTHER WEST.
TC CHAPALA WILL BEGIN TO WEAKEN ONCE AGAIN AS THE SYSTEM ENCOUNTERS
INCREASED VWS AND DRY AIR. IN ADDITION, LAND INTERACTION WILL BEGIN
TO DETERIORATE THE LOW LEVEL STRUCTURE. THE CYCLONE WILL TRACK OVER
CENTRAL YEMEN AND FULLY DISSIPATE OVER LAND BY THE END OF THE
FORECAST PERIOD. DYNAMIC MODEL GUIDANCE REMAINS IN GOOD AGREEMENT,
LENDING HIGH CONFIDENCE TO THE JTWC FORECAST. MAXIMUM SIGNIFICANT
WAVE HEIGHT AT 011800Z IS 28 FEET. NEXT WARNINGS AT 020300Z,
020900Z, 021500Z AND 022100Z.//
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#212 Postby WeatherGuesser » Sun Nov 01, 2015 5:18 pm

A rare and rapidly intensifying cyclone killed one person and injured nine Sunday on the remote Yemeni island of Socotra as it moved toward the Yemeni mainland, local security officials said.

The officials said Cyclone Chapala seriously damaged or destroyed at least 20 homes on the island, where trees have been uprooted and fishing boats sank.

They said many residents living near the coast are taking shelter in caves or in schools. The island is being hit by heavy rain and strong winds, and rising waves are battering the coast. The officials said coastal areas are flooded.


http://abcnews.go.com/International/wir ... e-34891615
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#213 Postby Alyono » Sun Nov 01, 2015 5:20 pm

May be undergoing another period of rapid intensification
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#214 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Nov 01, 2015 6:13 pm

Looks like a further west and south motion would mean a weaker Chapala. Let's hope it continues.
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#215 Postby Alyono » Sun Nov 01, 2015 6:30 pm

also would mean more of yemen gets the flooding rainfall
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#216 Postby wxmann_91 » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:10 pm

Kingarabian wrote:Looks like a further west and south motion would mean a weaker Chapala. Let's hope it continues.


But would not be good from a population affected perspective:

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#217 Postby 1900hurricane » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:59 pm

Maybe yet another eyewall replacement cycle?

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#218 Postby Alyono » Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:10 pm

https://twitter.com/adennetwork/status/ ... 9500605441

something horrific may be going on Socotra. Now multiply that by about 100 for the impacts on the mianland
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#219 Postby terstorm1012 » Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:10 pm

so much farther west than most (but you alyono) forecasted. this is going to be a catastrophe.
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#220 Postby Alyono » Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:23 pm

terstorm1012 wrote:so much farther west that most (but you alyono) forecasted. this is going to be a catastrophe.


Most missed this because they dogmatically followed deterministic runs and did not look at the ensemble envelope. 20th century techniques vs 21 st century techniques
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