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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#81 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Sun Aug 21, 2016 6:47 pm

Outside of some increased shear around day 5 as the cyclone interacts with an upper-level low, things look smooth sailing. I expect a Category 4 hurricane at peak.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#82 Postby p1nheadlarry » Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:03 pm

TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:Outside of some increased shear around day 5 as the cyclone interacts with an upper-level low, things look smooth sailing. I expect a Category 4 hurricane at peak.


SAL seems high for the next 24 hours ahead of it, but it's still embedded with that ITCZ moisture. It actually looks like a promising invest :) . Should be the first major of the season.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#83 Postby Hammy » Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:22 pm

p1nheadlarry wrote:
TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:Outside of some increased shear around day 5 as the cyclone interacts with an upper-level low, things look smooth sailing. I expect a Category 4 hurricane at peak.


SAL seems high for the next 24 hours ahead of it, but it's still embedded with that ITCZ moisture. It actually looks like a promising invest :) . Should be the first major of the season.


Would the SAL explain why this takes about 24-36 hours to get going?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#84 Postby p1nheadlarry » Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:34 pm

Hammy wrote:
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TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:Outside of some increased shear around day 5 as the cyclone interacts with an upper-level low, things look smooth sailing. I expect a Category 4 hurricane at peak.


SAL seems high for the next 24 hours ahead of it, but it's still embedded with that ITCZ moisture. It actually looks like a promising invest :) . Should be the first major of the season.


Would the SAL explain why this takes about 24-36 hours to get going?


In my humble opinion, I'd say so. It's going to have to deal with that possibility early on in its life. Not much around it. If you look at the NASA forecast, 90L plows right on through. Might at least modulate any quick development.
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ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#85 Postby Blown Away » Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:47 pm

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Seems the NHC slowed 90L's track down?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#86 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:04 pm

00z Best Track:

Location: 11.7°N 22.7°W
Maximum Winds: 25 kt Gusts: N/A
Minimum Central Pressure: 1008 mb
Environmental Pressure: 1011 mb
Radius of Circulation: 180 NM
Radius of Maximum Wind: 80 NM
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#87 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:12 pm

Bullish models.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#88 Postby TheStormExpert » Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:13 pm

00z Model Guidance.

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18z GEFS Ensembles.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#89 Postby pgoss11 » Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:16 pm

I wonder why some of the Model Guidance on 90L has it bending towards the west at the end of the run?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#90 Postby TheStormExpert » Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:23 pm

pgoss11 wrote:I wonder why some of the Model Guidance on 90L has it bending towards the west at the end of the run?

Building ridge potentially stalling or slowing it down and sending it west for a little while before heading out to sea.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#91 Postby p1nheadlarry » Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:23 pm

pgoss11 wrote:I wonder why some of the Model Guidance on 90L has it bending towards the west at the end of the run?


Not showing any weakness in the building high it seems. Earlier runs had that, and 90L made for the exits. Now it doesn't see it until it nears the maritimes.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#92 Postby Kazmit » Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:51 pm

Blown Away wrote:Image

Seems the NHC slowed 90L's track down?

The development area is smaller... I wonder why?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#93 Postby TheStormExpert » Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:57 pm

Kazmit_ wrote:
Blown Away wrote:Image

Seems the NHC slowed 90L's track down?

The development area is smaller... I wonder why?

Because it is expected to become a tropical cyclone soon.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#94 Postby Gustywind » Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:23 pm

From SSD, first appearence...

DATE/TIME LAT LON CLASSIFICATION STORM
22/0000 UTC 11.7N 22.5W T1.0/1.0 90L
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#95 Postby Hammy » Mon Aug 22, 2016 12:18 am

GFS has a hurricane in 72 hours and a major by 144.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#96 Postby Hammy » Mon Aug 22, 2016 12:27 am

Looks like it could be a depression as early as tomorrow if it keeps organizing like it is.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#97 Postby USTropics » Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:05 am

Up to 90%, NHC expects it to be classified as a TD later today:

2. Thunderstorm activity continues to show signs of organization in
association with a tropical wave and a large area of low pressure
located almost 300 miles south of the southern Cabo Verde Islands.
Environmental conditions are conducive for development, and a
tropical depression is likely to form later today while the system
moves westward to west-northwestward at 15 to 20 mph over the
eastern tropical Atlantic Ocean.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...high...90 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...90 percent

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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#98 Postby Siker » Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:06 am

Latest Euro peaks this at 933mb.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#99 Postby chaser1 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:44 am

Hammy wrote:GFS has a hurricane in 72 hours and a major by 144.


Interestingly the track guidance cluster are distinctly farther south and west than the EURO at 72 hours. If verifying, this would seem to imply a change in the EURO downstream steering impact and solution for 99L
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#100 Postby Rail Dawg » Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:50 am

I keep my sources anon but it will be classified TD shortly with TS following quickly.

Shear the only minor concern and then major storm status.

Some smart people here do as well as NHC (and NHC knows it lol!!)
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