EPAC: AGATHA - Post-Tropical

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Message
Author
User avatar
TheAustinMan
Category 4
Category 4
Posts: 997
Age: 24
Joined: Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:26 pm
Location: United States
Contact:

Re: EPAC: INVEST 95E

#21 Postby TheAustinMan » Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:53 pm

You can see the circulation centers at the mid- (blue) and low- (orange/red) levels of the atmosphere quite distinctly separate on false-color RGB visible imagery.

Image
4 likes   
ImageImageImage
- Treat my opinions with a grain of salt. For official information see your local weather service.

User avatar
Kingarabian
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 15434
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:06 am
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: EPAC: INVEST 95E

#22 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:29 pm

They should classify this system ASAP.

If those sheared messes in the Atlantic and GOM can be classified then so can this storm.
4 likes   
RIP Kobe Bryant

User avatar
1900hurricane
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 6044
Age: 32
Joined: Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:04 pm
Location: Houston, TX
Contact:

Re: EPAC: INVEST 95E

#23 Postby 1900hurricane » Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:40 pm

There is quite a bit of dry air (turquoise and non-convective green wedges) circling 95E.

Image
1 likes   
Contract Meteorologist. TAMU & MSST. Fiercely authentic, one of a kind. We are all given free will, so choose a life meant to be lived. We are the Masters of our own Stories.
Opinions expressed are mine alone.

Follow me on Twitter at @1900hurricane : Read blogs at https://1900hurricane.wordpress.com/

User avatar
TropicalAnalystwx13
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2109
Age: 26
Joined: Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:20 pm
Location: Wilmington, NC
Contact:

Re: EPAC: INVEST 95E

#24 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:49 pm

Undoubtedly ready for an upgrade. Now the question becomes whether or not it reaches tropical storm intensity by 0z on July 3 (5pm PDT tomorrow) to deny 2016 the honor of holding the record for latest formation of 1st tropical storm.
0 likes   

User avatar
gatorcane
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 23499
Age: 46
Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:54 pm
Location: Boca Raton, FL

Re: EPAC: INVEST 95E

#25 Postby gatorcane » Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:24 pm

Saved loop, convection increasing

Image
0 likes   

User avatar
Yellow Evan
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 15951
Age: 25
Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:48 pm
Location: Henderson, Nevada/Honolulu, HI
Contact:

Re: EPAC: INVEST 95E

#26 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:33 pm

000
WTPZ22 KNHC 020232
TCMEP2

TROPICAL DEPRESSION TWO-E FORECAST/ADVISORY NUMBER 1
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP022016
0300 UTC SAT JUL 02 2016

THERE ARE NO COASTAL WATCHES OR WARNINGS IN EFFECT.

TROPICAL DEPRESSION CENTER LOCATED NEAR 14.7N 116.9W AT 02/0300Z
POSITION ACCURATE WITHIN 15 NM

PRESENT MOVEMENT TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST OR 300 DEGREES AT 8 KT

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE 1007 MB
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS 25 KT WITH GUSTS TO 35 KT.
WINDS AND SEAS VARY GREATLY IN EACH QUADRANT. RADII IN NAUTICAL
MILES ARE THE LARGEST RADII EXPECTED ANYWHERE IN THAT QUADRANT.

REPEAT...CENTER LOCATED NEAR 14.7N 116.9W AT 02/0300Z
AT 02/0000Z CENTER WAS LOCATED NEAR 14.5N 116.6W

FORECAST VALID 02/1200Z 15.1N 118.2W
MAX WIND 30 KT...GUSTS 40 KT.

FORECAST VALID 03/0000Z 15.8N 120.1W
MAX WIND 35 KT...GUSTS 45 KT.
34 KT... 40NE 0SE 0SW 30NW.

FORECAST VALID 03/1200Z 16.5N 122.2W
MAX WIND 35 KT...GUSTS 45 KT.
34 KT... 40NE 0SE 0SW 30NW.

FORECAST VALID 04/0000Z 17.1N 124.4W
MAX WIND 30 KT...GUSTS 40 KT.

FORECAST VALID 05/0000Z 17.7N 128.1W...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
MAX WIND 25 KT...GUSTS 35 KT.

EXTENDED OUTLOOK. NOTE...ERRORS FOR TRACK HAVE AVERAGED NEAR 125 NM
ON DAY 4 AND 150 NM ON DAY 5...AND FOR INTENSITY NEAR 15 KT EACH DAY

OUTLOOK VALID 06/0000Z 17.0N 132.0W...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
MAX WIND 25 KT...GUSTS 35 KT.

OUTLOOK VALID 07/0000Z 15.5N 135.5W...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
MAX WIND 20 KT...GUSTS 30 KT.

REQUEST FOR 3 HOURLY SHIP REPORTS WITHIN 300 MILES OF 14.7N 116.9W

NEXT ADVISORY AT 02/0900Z

$$
FORECASTER BERG
0 likes   

User avatar
Kingarabian
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 15434
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:06 am
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: EPAC: INVEST 95E

#27 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:34 pm

000
WTPZ42 KNHC 020232
TCDEP2

TROPICAL DEPRESSION TWO-E DISCUSSION NUMBER 1
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP022016
800 PM PDT FRI JUL 01 2016

ASCAT data from earlier today indicated that the low pressure area
several hundred miles southwest of the Baja California peninsula had
developed a well-defined circulation. Deep convection, although
currently sheared to the west of the low-level center, has become
more organized throughout the day, and TAFB and SAB have both given
the system classifications of T1.5. Advisories are being initiated
on a new tropical depression, with the 25-kt initial intensity based
on the Dvorak estimates and ASCAT data.

The depression is moving west-northwestward, or 300/8 kt, to the
south of the subtropical ridge. The ridge is expected to remain
relatively stationary, with the cyclone forecast to continue
west-northwestward for the next couple of days. There are some
speed differences, however, with the ECMWF showing a slightly faster
motion compared with the other track models. The NHC official
forecast is a little faster than the consensus model trackers, which
did not include the ECMWF solution on this forecast cycle. After 48
hours, the weakening cyclone is expected to turn westward and then
west-southwestward by day 5.

The depression only has a small window of opportunity to strengthen.
Vertical shear is forecast to be low during the next 36 hours and
then increase significantly in 2 to 3 days. In addition, the
cyclone should move over water colder than 26 degrees Celsius and
into a much drier mid-level environment in about 36 hours.
Therefore, only modest strengthening to tropical storm strength is
shown in the NHC official forecast in the first day or two, followed
by weakening and degeneration to a remnant low by day 3.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 02/0300Z 14.7N 116.9W 25 KT 30 MPH
12H 02/1200Z 15.1N 118.2W 30 KT 35 MPH
24H 03/0000Z 15.8N 120.1W 35 KT 40 MPH
36H 03/1200Z 16.5N 122.2W 35 KT 40 MPH
48H 04/0000Z 17.1N 124.4W 30 KT 35 MPH
72H 05/0000Z 17.7N 128.1W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
96H 06/0000Z 17.0N 132.0W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
120H 07/0000Z 15.5N 135.5W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW

$$
Forecaster Berg
1 likes   
RIP Kobe Bryant

User avatar
1900hurricane
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 6044
Age: 32
Joined: Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:04 pm
Location: Houston, TX
Contact:

Re: EPAC: TWO-E - Tropical Depression

#28 Postby 1900hurricane » Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:38 pm

Classification, yeah!
0 likes   
Contract Meteorologist. TAMU & MSST. Fiercely authentic, one of a kind. We are all given free will, so choose a life meant to be lived. We are the Masters of our own Stories.
Opinions expressed are mine alone.

Follow me on Twitter at @1900hurricane : Read blogs at https://1900hurricane.wordpress.com/

User avatar
Kingarabian
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 15434
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:06 am
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: EPAC: TWO-E - Tropical Depression

#29 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:44 pm

1900hurricane wrote:Classification, yeah!


Has the appearance of a sheared tropical storm right now. Hopefully ADT numbers come in higher to justify an upgrade.
0 likes   
RIP Kobe Bryant

User avatar
cycloneye
Admin
Admin
Posts: 139065
Age: 67
Joined: Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:54 am
Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico

Re: EPAC: TWO-E - Tropical Depression

#30 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:52 pm

Interesting to see if this Tropical Cyclone affects 94E in the track and intensity because of shear but I think being a weak and short lived storm expected, not much effect occurs.
0 likes   
Visit the Caribbean-Central America Weather Thread where you can find at first post web cams,radars
and observations from Caribbean basin members Click Here

User avatar
Kingarabian
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 15434
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:06 am
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: EPAC: TWO-E - Tropical Depression

#31 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:01 pm

cycloneye wrote:Interesting to see if this Tropical Cyclone affects 94E in the track and intensity because of shear but I think being a weak and short lived storm expected not much effect occurs.


Has a very short window for development. Strong shear to the west, a lot of dry air, and the decreasing SST's.
1 likes   
RIP Kobe Bryant

User avatar
1900hurricane
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 6044
Age: 32
Joined: Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:04 pm
Location: Houston, TX
Contact:

Re: EPAC: TWO-E - Tropical Depression

#32 Postby 1900hurricane » Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:14 pm

It would be nice to get another scatterometer pass as clean as today's earlier ASCAT pass. That could go a long way in helping to determine how strong 02E ends up getting.
1 likes   
Contract Meteorologist. TAMU & MSST. Fiercely authentic, one of a kind. We are all given free will, so choose a life meant to be lived. We are the Masters of our own Stories.
Opinions expressed are mine alone.

Follow me on Twitter at @1900hurricane : Read blogs at https://1900hurricane.wordpress.com/

RL3AO
Moderator-Pro Met
Moderator-Pro Met
Posts: 16308
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:03 pm
Location: NC

Re: EPAC: TWO-E - Tropical Depression

#33 Postby RL3AO » Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:47 pm

Id expect the td in best track to get moved to at least 18z. That was a pretty clear ascat pass
0 likes   

stormwise
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 590
Joined: Sun Dec 27, 2015 7:39 pm

Re: EPAC: TWO-E - Tropical Depression

#34 Postby stormwise » Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:54 pm

Image

Don't need the wizardry of microwave or ascat here this looks a TS.
0 likes   

User avatar
Kingarabian
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 15434
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:06 am
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: EPAC: TWO-E - Tropical Depression

#35 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Jul 02, 2016 2:35 am

02/0600 UTC 14.8N 117.2W T2.0/2.0 02E -- East Pacific

ADT is basically @ 2.0 as well.

May make it to TS storm strength.
0 likes   
RIP Kobe Bryant

stormwise
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 590
Joined: Sun Dec 27, 2015 7:39 pm

Re: EPAC: TWO-E - Tropical Depression

#36 Postby stormwise » Sat Jul 02, 2016 3:53 am

Image
No way is this the presentation of a pre-storm core likely 2.5 or better.



The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K. For official information, please refer to products from the National Hurricane Center and National Weather Service.
0 likes   

User avatar
Darvince
Tropical Storm
Tropical Storm
Posts: 184
Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:25 pm
Location: Phoenix AZ

Re: EPAC: TWO-E - Tropical Depression

#37 Postby Darvince » Sat Jul 02, 2016 4:38 am

It might be if the centers were aligned, but the convective blowups are very much to the west of the TD/TS. I'd agree that it may be a tropical storm, and personally I'd say either 30 or 35.
0 likes   
:craz:

User avatar
cycloneye
Admin
Admin
Posts: 139065
Age: 67
Joined: Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:54 am
Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico

Re: EPAC: TWO-E - Tropical Depression

#38 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 02, 2016 4:59 am

TROPICAL DEPRESSION TWO-E DISCUSSION NUMBER 2
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP022016
200 AM PDT SAT JUL 02 2016

Despite the symmetric area of convection observed on conventional
infrared imagery, several microwave passes indicate that the
low-level center is still located to the southeast or near the edge
of the thunderstorm activity due to southeasterly shear. Dvorak
estimates from TAFB and SAB have not changed very much, but support
an initial intensity of 30 kt. There is an opportunity for the
depression to slightly strengthen during the next day or so while
the shear decreases. After that time, an environment of higher shear
and cool SSTs should result in weakening, and the cyclone should
degenerate into a remnant low by 72 hours or sooner.

The depression is moving toward the west-northwest or 295 degrees
at 9 kt, steered by the flow around a nearly stationary subtropical
ridge. This general motion should continue during the next 24 to 48
hours, and as the cyclone weakens, it should move to the west and
even to the west-southwest steered by the low-level flow. The NHC
forecast is very similar to the previous one, and it very close to
the solution provided by most of the dynamical guidance.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 02/0900Z 15.0N 117.8W 30 KT 35 MPH
12H 02/1800Z 15.4N 119.1W 35 KT 40 MPH
24H 03/0600Z 16.1N 121.1W 35 KT 40 MPH
36H 03/1800Z 16.8N 123.3W 35 KT 40 MPH
48H 04/0600Z 17.3N 125.5W 30 KT 35 MPH
72H 05/0600Z 17.5N 129.0W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
96H 06/0600Z 16.0N 132.5W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
120H 07/0600Z...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW

$$
Forecaster Avila
0 likes   
Visit the Caribbean-Central America Weather Thread where you can find at first post web cams,radars
and observations from Caribbean basin members Click Here

WeatherGuesser
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2672
Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:46 am

Re: EPAC: TWO-E - Tropical Depression

#39 Postby WeatherGuesser » Sat Jul 02, 2016 5:30 am

This worthless little spitball is going to spoil the record, isn't it?
0 likes   

User avatar
1900hurricane
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 6044
Age: 32
Joined: Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:04 pm
Location: Houston, TX
Contact:

Re: EPAC: TWO-E - Tropical Depression

#40 Postby 1900hurricane » Sat Jul 02, 2016 8:12 am

I would probably upgrade at this point, even though both ASCAT passes earlier couldn't have missed any worse than they did. Both SSD and CIMSS ADT is up to 2.4 (raw 2.9), and microwave imagery indicates that the low level center isn't completely exposed. SSD's subjective dvorak only yielded a 2.0, so we'll see what NHC does.

Image

Image
0 likes   
Contract Meteorologist. TAMU & MSST. Fiercely authentic, one of a kind. We are all given free will, so choose a life meant to be lived. We are the Masters of our own Stories.
Opinions expressed are mine alone.

Follow me on Twitter at @1900hurricane : Read blogs at https://1900hurricane.wordpress.com/


Return to “2016”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 102 guests