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Re: CPAC: DARBY - Tropical Storm

#561 Postby stormwise » Sun Jul 24, 2016 3:21 am

Any idea at what elevation those winds speeds were recorded.

Issued: Jul 23, 2016 8:38 PM HST

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Tropical Storm Darby will bring stormy weather at times during the rest of this weekend as it tracks northwest over the leeward waters and passes near the smaller islands. More settled weather will return on Monday as Darby departs, leaving us in very warm and humid southeast flow. Much more pleasant trade wind weather is expected to return beginning Tuesday and continuing for the second half of the week, as high pressure strengthens far northeast of the islands.

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Tropical Storm Darby has emerged back over water to the west of the Big Island this evening, as per the 8 PM HST advisory from the Central Pacific Hurricane Center. Maximum sustained winds remain near 40 mph, and the cyclone is moving to the west at 11 mph.

Recent mesonet reports show the strongest wind gusts currently occurring over the smaller islands from Oahu to Maui, in areas where the north/northeast flow around Darby is locally accelerated by the terrain. The Oahu Forest NWR site high in the Koolau Range just reported a gust to 56 mph, while several sites across Maui County are gusting in the 40-50 mph range. Winds on the Big Island have generally turned to the south in response to the center of Darby moving offshore, with Kona Airport recently reporting southerly wind gusts to 35 mph. Satellite and radar data show the bulk of the associated deep convection lurking offshore to the south of the Big Island. Areas of moderate rain have been moving into the Kau coast, with only scattered light showers elsewhere around the state at the moment.

Overnight and Sunday, Darby is forecast to track to the west- northwest and northwest over the leeward waters to the south of Maui County and Oahu. This westward movement should drag the moist feed of deep tropical moisture located east of the center of Darby over Maui County late tonight and over Oahu as well on Sunday. It is impossible to predict the exact evolution of deep convection within Darby's circulation during the next 24 hours, but the potential certainly is there for heavy downpours along with isolated thunderstorms. The existing flash flood watch remains in effect for the Big Island and Maui County through Sunday afternoon, and for Oahu through Sunday night.

Winds will continue to be a secondary threat, but there will continue to be localized areas of strong winds or gusts in areas of strong downsloping and acceleration through gaps, as well as with any deep convective bursts that develop. Not all locations will see tropical-storm-force winds, but there will likely be at least some pockets of wind damage associated with Darby.

Once Darby passes, expect muggy southeasterly flow with scattered showers on Monday. Thereafter, warm but gradually less humid trade wind weather should return beginning Tuesday as Darby moves farther away from the state and high pressure builds far to the northeast. Pleasant and fairly dry trade wind weather should prevail from Wednesday through the remainder of the week.

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Re: CPAC: DARBY - Tropical Storm

#562 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 24, 2016 5:04 am

TROPICAL STORM DARBY DISCUSSION NUMBER 51
NWS CENTRAL PACIFIC HURRICANE CENTER HONOLULU HI EP052016
1100 PM HST SAT JUL 23 2016

Darby was difficult to find this evening after it emerged from the
Big Island. A 0732z ASCAT pass seems to confirm the current position
estimate. However, the system is likely continuing to organize after
its encounter with volcanic peaks of nearly 14 thousand feet,
earlier today. This terrain severely disrupted the low level center,
which appears to have emerged slightly south of its previous
forecast track. This is often the case with tropical cyclones that
encounter major land areas, especially when mountainous terrain
is present. In addition, the amount of time the center was over land
removed it from its primary energy source, which is the Pacific
Ocean. Since the center is again over water, all of the satellite
fix agencies estimated the current intensity to be 2.5/35 kt,
while the CIMSS ADT estimates was 2.3/33 kt. We are maintaining
Darby as a 35 kt tropical storm for this advisory.

The initial motion is estimated to be 290/09 kt, with the
poorly-defined center of Darby currently located just west
of the Big Island coast. The system is expected to eventually turn
toward the northwest, with Darby moving generally northwest through
the remainder of the forecast period. There remains some spread in
the track guidance, but the models continue to suggest this
northwest motion is likely to continue. The models appear to be
influenced by a forecast weakness developing in the mid-level ridge
to its north over the next 18 to 24 hours, due to a deep-layer low
that remains nearly stationary far north of the Hawaiian Islands.
The updated track forecast is close to the previous and closely
follows the latest multi-model consensus TVCN and the latest GFEX.

The intensity forecast is maintaining Darby as a minimal tropical
storm through 36 hours. The warm water temperatures and ample
ocean heat content depicted in the most recent CIRA analysis south
of the main Hawaiian Islands are likely sufficient to maintain a
tropical storm. The latest SHIPS guidance appears to indicate Darby
may not weaken as fast as it had in the previous run. However,
within 48 hours, all of the guidance indicates steady weakening will
occur, as increasing vertical wind shear and gradually cooling
waters lie along the forecast track. The latest forecast again
indicates weakening to a remnant low in 72 hours, with dissipation
expected by the end of the forecast period. Of note, a recent 0836z
observation from the Oahu Forest NWR RAWS site in the Koolau
mountain range indicated sustained winds of 29 mph with gusts to
60 mph.

Note that another flight by the 53rd Weather Reconnaissance Squadron
is scheduled to fly into Darby after dawn Sunday morning to
determine what the intensity of Darby is after its circulation
spends several more hours over the warm ocean waters west of the Big
Island.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 24/0900Z 19.5N 156.8W 35 KT 40 MPH
12H 24/1800Z 20.2N 157.8W 35 KT 40 MPH
24H 25/0600Z 21.4N 159.1W 35 KT 40 MPH
36H 25/1800Z 22.7N 160.6W 35 KT 40 MPH
48H 26/0600Z 24.1N 162.1W 30 KT 35 MPH
72H 27/0600Z 27.3N 165.2W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
96H 28/0600Z 30.0N 169.0W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
120H 29/0600Z...DISSIPATED

$$
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Re: CPAC: DARBY - Tropical Storm

#563 Postby stormwise » Sun Jul 24, 2016 6:41 am

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Re: CPAC: DARBY - Tropical Storm

#564 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:04 am

BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM DARBY ADVISORY NUMBER 52
NWS CENTRAL PACIFIC HURRICANE CENTER HONOLULU HI EP052016
500 AM HST SUN JUL 24 2016

...DARBY MOVING NORTHWESTWARD TOWARD OAHU AND KAUAI...


SUMMARY OF 500 AM HST...1500 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...19.8N 157.3W
ABOUT 110 MI...180 KM SSE OF HONOLULU HAWAII
ABOUT 205 MI...330 KM SE OF LIHUE HAWAII
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...40 MPH...65 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...WNW OR 300 DEGREES AT 9 MPH...15 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1004 MB...29.65 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:

A Tropical Storm Watch has been issued for portions of the
Papahanaumokuakea Marine National Monument...from Nihoa Island to
French Frigate Shoals.

The Tropical Storm Watch has been cancelled for the Big Island of
Hawaii.

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT:

A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for...

* All islands in the state of Hawaii, except the Big Island.

A Tropical Storm Watch is in effect for...

* Papahanaumokuakea Marine National Monument...from Nihoa Island to
French Frigate Shoals.

A Tropical Storm Warning means that tropical storm conditions are
imminent or already occurring. In this case, Tropical Storm
conditions are expected over Maui County and Oahu today through
tonight, and over Kauai late tonight and Monday.

A Tropical Storm Watch means that Tropical Storm conditions are
possible within the watch area...generally within 36 to 48 hours.

For storm information specific to your area, please monitor
products issued by the National Weather Service office in
Honolulu Hawaii.


DISCUSSION AND 48-HOUR OUTLOOK
------------------------------
At 500 AM HST (1500 UTC), the center of Tropical Storm Darby was
located near latitude 19.8 North, longitude 157.3 West. Darby is
moving toward the west-northwest near 9 mph (15 km/h) and this
general motion is expected to continue over the next 48 hours.

Maximum sustained winds are near 40 mph (65 km/h) with higher gusts.
Little change in strength is forecast through Monday, with slow
weakening Monday night.

Tropical-storm-force winds extend outward up to 80 miles (130 km)
from the center.

The estimated minimum central pressure is 1004 mb (29.65 inches).


HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND
----------------------
WIND: Tropical Storm force winds are expected over parts of Maui
County and Oahu through tonight, and over Kauai late tonight and
Monday.

SURF: Swells generated by Darby are impacting the Hawaiian Islands,
and will continue through tonight before diminishing on Monday.

RAINFALL: Storm total rainfall of 6 to 10 inches, with isolated
amounts of up to 15 inches. These rains could produce
life-threatening flash floods and landslides.


NEXT ADVISORY
-------------
Next intermediate advisory at 800 AM HST.
Next complete advisory at 1100 AM HST.

$$
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Re: CPAC: DARBY - Tropical Storm

#565 Postby 1900hurricane » Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:17 am

Yellow Evan wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:
Yellow Evan wrote:
Eric Blake said in a tweet the other day the ECMWF has been struggling in terms of track with Darby, not to mention the likelyhood of the mountains of Hawaii rejecting the center out to the north, so I understand why they had the track moving where they had it.


Maybe Eric Blake was favoring an eastern track? Because sure the Euro did show an eastern track at first but as soon as it got a better handle on the trough, it shifted consistently west for the past 2 days. I don't think that technically means the Euro was struggling in terms of track. The GFS however, it did.


 https://twitter.com/EricBlake12/status/756831199700586497




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Re: CPAC: DARBY - Tropical Storm

#566 Postby supercane » Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:28 am

WTPA43 PHFO 241515
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TROPICAL STORM DARBY DISCUSSION NUMBER 52
NWS CENTRAL PACIFIC HURRICANE CENTER HONOLULU HI EP052016
500 AM HST SUN JUL 24 2016

The center of Darby is difficult to find early this morning. The low
level circulation of the system continues to reorganize after its
encounter with the Big Island late Saturday. Even after the center
emerged over the ocean west of the island Saturday evening, most of
the circulation in the eastern semicircle was disrupted as it flowed
around the volcanic peaks of nearly 14 thousand feet. A 1153z VIIRS
image confirmed our earlier estimate of the center based on infrared
satellite imagery and radar data. The satellite fix agencies
estimates of current intensity ranged from 2.0/30 kt at JTWC and SAB
to 2.5/35 kt at PHFO. The CIMSS ADT estimate was 2.1/31 kt. We are
maintaining Darby as a 35 kt tropical storm for this advisory, since
the system appears to be becoming better organized. Another flight
by the 53rd Weather Reconnaissance Squadron is scheduled to fly into
Darby a few hours after sunrise this morning to determine
the location and intensity of the system as its circulation
continues to churn over the warm ocean waters west of the Big
Island.

The initial motion is estimated to be 300/08 kt. This west-northwest
motion is expected to continue this morning, followed be a turn to
the northwest later today. This northwest motion will then likely
continue during the next three days. The forecast models are showing
this general motion due to the influence of a weakness developing in
the mid-level ridge to the north of the tropical cyclone later
today. This weakness is due to a deep-layer low that remains nearly
stationary far north of the Hawaiian Islands. The updated track
forecast is close to the previous and closely follows the latest
multi-model consensus TVCN and the latest GFEX.

The intensity forecast is maintaining Darby as a minimal tropical
storm through 36 hours. The warm water temperatures and ample
ocean heat content depicted in the most recent CIRA analyses south
of the main Hawaiian Islands are likely sufficient to maintain a
tropical storm. The latest SHIPS, as well as the IVCN consensus
guidance, appear to indicate Darby may be able to remain a minimal
tropical storm. However, within 48 hours, all of the guidance
indicates steady weakening will occur, as increasing vertical wind
shear and gradually cooling waters lie along the forecast track. The
latest forecast again indicates weakening to a remnant low in 72
hours, with dissipation expected by the end of the forecast period.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 24/1500Z 19.8N 157.3W 35 KT 40 MPH
12H 25/0000Z 20.7N 158.4W 35 KT 40 MPH
24H 25/1200Z 21.9N 159.7W 35 KT 40 MPH
36H 26/0000Z 23.4N 161.1W 35 KT 40 MPH
48H 26/1200Z 24.9N 162.6W 30 KT 35 MPH
72H 27/1200Z 28.0N 165.5W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
96H 28/1200Z 32.0N 167.0W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
120H 29/1200Z...DISSIPATED

$$
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Re: CPAC: DARBY - Tropical Storm

#567 Postby supercane » Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:13 pm

WTPA33 PHFO 241807
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BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM DARBY INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 52A
NWS CENTRAL PACIFIC HURRICANE CENTER HONOLULU HI EP052016
800 AM HST SUN JUL 24 2016

...HURRICANE HUNTERS FLYING THROUGH DARBY SOUTH OF OAHU...


SUMMARY OF 800 AM HST...1800 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...20.4N 157.7W
ABOUT 65 MI...105 KM S OF HONOLULU HAWAII
ABOUT 150 MI...240 KM SE OF LIHUE HAWAII
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...40 MPH...65 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NW OR 320 DEGREES AT 12 MPH...19 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1007 MB...29.74 INCHES


So far during recon flight, pressures relatively high (~1011 mb) and winds light (~30kt flight level and 25kt SFMR at best), though plane still to fly through deeper convection to the SE of center.
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Re: CPAC: DARBY - Tropical Storm

#568 Postby wxman57 » Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:25 pm

This isn't a TS, it's a remnant low now. Plane is confirming that.
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#569 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:56 pm

:uarrow: There's still convection off to the SE of the center.
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Re: CPAC: DARBY - Tropical Storm

#570 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 24, 2016 3:54 pm

BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM DARBY ADVISORY NUMBER 53
NWS CENTRAL PACIFIC HURRICANE CENTER HONOLULU HI EP052016
1100 AM HST SUN JUL 24 2016

...DARBY STILL A TROPICAL STORM SOUTH OF OAHU...


SUMMARY OF 1100 AM HST...2100 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...20.7N 158.0W
ABOUT 40 MI...70 KM S OF HONOLULU HAWAII
ABOUT 125 MI...205 KM SE OF LIHUE HAWAII
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...40 MPH...65 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NW OR 315 DEGREES AT 9 MPH...15 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1010 MB...29.83 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
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CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:

None.

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT:

A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for...

* All islands in the state of Hawaii, except the Big Island.

A Tropical Storm Watch is in effect for...

* Papahanaumokuakea Marine National Monument...from Nihoa Island to
French Frigate Shoals.

A Tropical Storm Warning means that tropical storm conditions are
imminent or already occurring. In this case, Tropical Storm
conditions are expected over Maui County and Oahu today through
tonight, and over Kauai late tonight and Monday.

A Tropical Storm Watch means that Tropical Storm conditions are
possible within the watch area...generally within 36 to 48 hours.

For storm information specific to your area, please monitor
products issued by the National Weather Service office in
Honolulu Hawaii.


DISCUSSION AND 48-HOUR OUTLOOK
------------------------------
At 1100 AM HST (2100 UTC), the center of Tropical Storm Darby was
located near latitude 20.7 North, longitude 158.0 West. Darby is
moving toward the northwest near 9 mph (15 km/h) and this motion is
expected to continue over the next 48 hours.

Maximum sustained winds are near 40 mph (65 km/h) with higher gusts
based on aircraft reonnaissance data. Some weakening is expected
with Darby forecast to become a tropical depression tonight or
Monday.

Tropical-storm-force winds extend outward up to 80 miles (130 km)
from the center.

The estimated minimum central pressure is 1010 mb (29.83 inches).


HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND
----------------------
WIND: Tropical Storm force winds are expected over parts of Maui
County and Oahu through tonight, and over Kauai late tonight and
Monday.

SURF: Swells generated by Darby are impacting the Hawaiian Islands,
and will continue through tonight before diminishing on Monday.

RAINFALL: Storm total rainfall of 6 to 10 inches, with isolated
amounts of up to 15 inches. These rains could produce
life-threatening flash floods and landslides.


NEXT ADVISORY
-------------
Next intermediate advisory at 200 PM HST.
Next complete advisory at 500 PM HST.

$$
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Re: CPAC: DARBY - Tropical Storm

#571 Postby wxman57 » Sun Jul 24, 2016 4:04 pm

Center of this massive storm is nearing Honolulu now. Winds there are up to ... 9 kts (10 mph).
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#572 Postby Alyono » Sun Jul 24, 2016 4:19 pm

Recon data did not show TS winds with this
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#573 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Jul 24, 2016 4:31 pm

WTPA43 PHFO 242054
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TROPICAL STORM DARBY DISCUSSION NUMBER 53
NWS CENTRAL PACIFIC HURRICANE CENTER HONOLULU HI EP052016
1100 AM HST SUN JUL 24 2016

Due to vertical shear affecting Darby, most of the deep convection
is mainly confined to the southeast quadrant with some isolated
thunderstorms to the northeast of the main Hawaiian Islands. The
morning mission from the 53rd Weather Reconnaissance Squadron's
WC-130J found the center of Darby to be a bit north of the previous
forecast track with maximum winds of 36 kt to the east of the
center. Based on the aircraft recon data, the initial intensity of
Darby has been maintained at 35 kt, but perhaps barely so at this
point. Additional passes through the system are ongoing and will
hopefully provide a better idea of the consistency of the current
trends.

Darby is becoming a shallow system and is moving at 315/8 kt to the
southwest of a lower and middle-level pressure ridge. The
trusted dynamical objective aids were tightly clustered showing a
northwestward track with the center of Darby passing near or over
Oahu and Kauai later today or tonight, then continuing
northwestward through 72 hours. The forecast track has been nudged
north a bit due to the shift in the initial position, but keeps
Darby moving northwestward through 72 hours.

Sea surface temperatures should be decreasing along Darby's
forecast track and vertical shear is expected to remain relatively
strong through the next couple of days. This should result in steady
weakening of the tropical cyclone. Thus, the forecast call for Darby
to remain a tropical storm through today then become a tropical
depression tonight or Monday, followed by post-tropical remnant low
status in about 72 hours. This is close to the previous forecast but
is a bit lower than intensity consensus which holds on to tropical
storm intensity a bit longer.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 24/2100Z 20.7N 158.0W 35 KT 40 MPH
12H 25/0600Z 21.7N 159.1W 35 KT 40 MPH
24H 25/1800Z 23.1N 160.4W 30 KT 35 MPH
36H 26/0600Z 24.1N 162.1W 30 KT 35 MPH
48H 26/1800Z 25.3N 163.8W 30 KT 35 MPH
72H 27/1800Z 28.6N 166.5W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
96H 28/1800Z 33.0N 166.5W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
120H 29/1800Z...DISSIPATED

$$
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Re: CPAC: DARBY - Tropical Storm

#574 Postby stormwise » Sun Jul 24, 2016 4:33 pm

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Calling this a TS is stretching it, looks just as wxman57 described R/L.
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Re: CPAC: DARBY - Tropical Storm

#575 Postby JaxGator » Sun Jul 24, 2016 4:37 pm

Recon has done a great job flying in Darby getting much needed data. Impressive it made it to Hawaii too but thankful it wasn't as strong as it was.
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Re: CPAC: DARBY - Tropical Storm

#576 Postby HurricaneRyan » Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:30 pm

Darby making landfall in Hawaii. The amount of things I missed out on during my last couple work days.
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Re: CPAC: DARBY - Tropical Storm

#577 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:54 pm

TROPICAL STORM DARBY DISCUSSION NUMBER 54
NWS CENTRAL PACIFIC HURRICANE CENTER HONOLULU HI EP052016
500 PM HST SUN JUL 24 2016

Earlier thunderstorms southeast of Darby's centered dissipated
but vigorous thunderstorms just northeast of the center flared up
this afternoon with tops colder than -65C. The morning Hurricane
Hunter mission into Darby continued through mid-day with a maximum
surface wind of 37 kt found over the water east of the center.
Based on the aircraft recon data and the recent burst in deep
convection very close to Oahu and Kauai, Darby has been held at 35
kt for this advisory package. This could be generous, especially
considering that subjective Dvorak estimates all came in at 30 kt
and that no surface stations on Kauai and Oahu have reported
tropical storm force conditions thus far. Note that this was the
final mission into Darby. A big mahalo to the 53rd Weather
Reconnaissance Squadron for their outstanding support over the past
several days.

Darby is moving at 325/10 kt to the southwest of a lower and
middle-level pressure ridge. The main dynamical objective aids
remain tightly clustered and continue to indicate that Darby will
move northwestward over or near Kauai tonight, and continue toward
the northwest over the next 2 to 3 days while weakening to a
post-tropical remnant low. The forecast track for this package
remains close to the previous track and the dynamical consensus.

Current marginal sea surface temperatures will cool along the
forecast track and vertical shear, while forecast to be less
persistent than the previous cycle, should remain relatively strong
over the next day or so. As a result, the current forecast calls for
Darby to weaken to a tropical depression overnight, then become a
post-tropical remnant low in 48 hours. This is a faster weakening
than indicated by the intensity consensus.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 25/0300Z 21.7N 158.9W 35 KT 40 MPH
12H 25/1200Z 22.7N 160.0W 30 KT 35 MPH
24H 26/0000Z 23.8N 161.5W 30 KT 35 MPH
36H 26/1200Z 25.0N 163.2W 30 KT 35 MPH
48H 27/0000Z 26.4N 164.7W 30 KT 35 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
72H 28/0000Z 29.9N 166.8W 25 KT 30 MPH...DISSIPATED

$$
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Re: CPAC: DARBY - Tropical Storm

#578 Postby NDG » Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:11 pm

Is a joke that they still classify it as a tropical storm.
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#579 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:21 pm

There's still convection near the center (if anything it looks better now) and latest Recon had a 37 knt SFMR reading. T numbers aren't any lower. I'm not getting why this is a joke.
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Re: CPAC: DARBY - Tropical Storm

#580 Postby euro6208 » Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:26 pm

wxman57 wrote:Center of this massive storm is nearing Honolulu now. Winds there are up to ... 9 kts (10 mph).


That gave me a good chuckle. :lol:
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