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Re: WPAC: MERANTI - Typhoon

#141 Postby 1900hurricane » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:03 pm

I figured it was a SATCON estimate that JTWC was factoring in. The AMSU scores have been driving it way up. Still though, I've never seen JTWC give such weight to SATCON. I wonder why they are giving it such clout in this case.

WDPN31 PGTW 130300
MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI//
SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR SUPER TYPHOON 16W (MERANTI) WARNING NR
18//
RMKS/
1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS.
2. 6 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS.
SUPER TYPHOON (STY) 16W (MERANTI), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 398 NM
SOUTHEAST OF TAIPEI, TAIWAN, HAS TRACKED WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT 12
KNOTS OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS. ANIMATED MULTISPECTRAL SATELLITE
IMAGERY DEPICTS ANOTHER PHASE OF COOLING CLOUD TOPS DEPICTING
STRENGTHENING WITHIN THE CORE OF THE CYCLONE SURROUNDING A DISTINCT
8NM EYE. THE EYE FEATURE SUPPORTS THE CURRENT POSITION WITH HIGH
CONFIDENCE. THE INITIAL INTENSITY HAS BEEN INCREASED TO 160 KNOTS
BASED ON THE COOLING CLOUD TOPS AND IS SUPPORTED BY A CONTINUOUS
INCREASE IN SATCON INTENSITY ESTIMATES WHICH NOW STAND AT 164 KNOTS.

DVORAK CURRENT INTENSITY ESTIMATES FROM PGTW AND RJTD REMAIN AT 155
KNOTS (T7.5). THE WATER VAPOR LOOP SHOWS RADIAL OUTFLOW DUE TO A
POINT SOURCE ANTI-CYCLONE OVER THE TOP OF THE SYSTEM WITH LOW (5-10
KNOT) VERTICAL WIND SHEAR (VWS). SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES NEAR 30
CELSIUS AND HIGH OCEAN HEAT CONTENT ARE ALSO VERY FAVORABLE. STY 16W
CONTINUES TO TRACK TOWARD THE WEST- NORTHWEST UNDER THE STEERING
INFLUENCE OF A SUBTROPICAL RIDGE (STR) TO THE NORTH.
3. FORECAST REASONING.
A. NO CHANGE IN THE FORECAST PHILOSOPHY SINCE THE PREVIOUS
PROGNOSTIC REASONING MESSAGE.
B. THROUGH TAU 72, STY 16W WILL TRACK GENERALLY WEST-
NORTHWESTWARD UNDER THE STEERING INFLUENCE OF THE STR. VERY
FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS WILL ALLOW THE INTENSE CYCLONE TO
MAINTAIN INTENSITY OVER THE NEXT 12 HOURS. AFTERWARDS, LAND
INTERACTION WITH TAIWAN AND INCREASING VWS WILL BEGIN THE WEAKENING
PHASE. STY MERANTI WILL MAKE LANDFALL ALONG THE COAST OF CHINA JUST
NEAR TAU 48 AS A STRONG TYPHOON. DYNAMIC MODEL GUIDANCE HAS COME
INTO MUCH BETTER AGREEMENT WITH A TRACK THAT PASSES JUST SOUTH OF
TAIWAN. AT THIS TIME ONLY NAVGEM CLIPS THE SOUTHERN TIP OF TAIWAN.
C. IN THE EXTENDED FORECAST, STY 16W WILL CONTINUE TRACKING OVER
LAND AND FULLY DISSIPATE DUE TO LAND INTERACTION AND INCREASED VWS
AS IT INTERACTS WITH THE ZONAL MID-LATITUDE WESTERLY FLOW. MODEL
GUIDANCE IN THE EXTENDED FORECAST DIVERGES GREATLY DUE TO THE RAPID
WEAKENING OF THE CYCLONE. VWS IS EXPECTED TO BE IN EXCESS OF 30
KNOTS AT THIS TIME. DUE TO THE IMPROVED MODEL AGREEMENT PRIOR TO
LANDFALL AND THE STABILITY OF THE MULTI-MODEL CONSENSUS OVER THE
PAST TWO CYCLES, THERE IS NOW HIGH CONFIDENCE IN THE JTWC TRACK
FORECAST.//
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CURRENT ESTIMATE
Date (mmddhhmm): 09122235
SATCON: MSLP = 895 hPa MSW = 162 knots
SATCON Member Consensus: 154.0 knots
Pressure -> Wind Using SATCON MSLP: 151 knots
Distance to Outer Closed Isobar Used is 215 nm
Eye Size Correction Used is 2.9 knots Source: IR

Member Estimates

ADT: 926 hPa 135 knots Scene: CDO Date: SEP122330
CIMSS AMSU: 883 hPa 173 knots Bias Corr: 0 (MW) Date: 09122235
SSMIS: 949 hPa 103 knots Date: 09112137
CIRA AMSU: CRP hPa CRW knots Date: CRD
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Re: WPAC: MERANTI - Typhoon

#142 Postby 1900hurricane » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:13 pm

Also, here is the 2235Z AMSU estimate text for reference.

CIMSS/NESDIS-USAF/NRL AMSU TC Intensity Estimation:
SUPER TYPHOON 16W
Monday 12sep16 Time: 2235 UTC
Latitude: 19.47 Longitude: 126.02
Storm position corresponds to AMSU-A FOV 3 [1<--->30]
-----------------------------------------------------------------
| Estimated MSLP: 883 hPa
| Estimated Maximum Sustained Wind: 173 kts
| Estimate Confidence: Fair ( +/- 15mb +/- 20kts )
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Storm is sub-sampled: Bias correction applied is 0.0 hPa
Channel 8 (~150 hPa) Tb Anomaly: 3.40
Channel 7 (~250 hPa) Tb Anomaly: 3.34
RMW: 11 km
RMW Source is: MW
Environmental Pressure: 1007
Satellite: NOAA-18
ATCF data for Month: 09 Day: 13 Time (UTC): 0000

For imagery, go to http://amsu.ssec.wisc.edu
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Re: WPAC: MERANTI - Typhoon

#143 Postby Ptarmigan » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:14 pm

That is one power super typhoon! :eek:
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Re: WPAC: MERANTI - Typhoon

#144 Postby 1900hurricane » Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:24 pm

Some more nice vis action:

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Re: WPAC: MERANTI - Typhoon

#145 Postby NotoSans » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:11 am

That AMSU estimate was probably too high as the estimated RMW was probably too small. I agree with 150 kt on this one.
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Re: WPAC: MERANTI - Typhoon

#146 Postby shah83 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:50 am

00z hwrf track/intensity is a major deal. Near direct hit on Xiamen at major Hurricane status. Xiamen has never been hit by anything stronger than Typhoon Dan at Cat 2...
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Re: WPAC: MERANTI - Typhoon

#147 Postby euro6208 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:50 am

Very symmetrical eye and tight eyewall coming into view. :eek:

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Re: WPAC: MERANTI - Typhoon

#148 Postby euro6208 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 2:46 am

A run for 8.0? Tops cooling, eye warming, in a ever increasing symmetrical CDO.

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Re: WPAC: MERANTI - Typhoon

#149 Postby dexterlabio » Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:21 am

The peak intensity may be adjusted down just like what happened with STY Nida '09.
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Re: WPAC: MERANTI - Typhoon

#150 Postby euro6208 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:39 am

HWRF deepens this a bit more...889.9mb

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And demolishes Kaohsiung?

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Kaohsiung is a massive port city in southern Taiwan. It's home to many skyscrapers, such as the 248m-tall Tuntex Sky Tower, and is known for its diversity of parks and second most populous (by city proper) with a population of approximately 2.77 million.
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Re: WPAC: MERANTI - Typhoon

#151 Postby USTropics » Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:40 am

One scary image:

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Re: WPAC: MERANTI - Typhoon

#152 Postby euro6208 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:41 am

00Z GFS initialization at 894mb...

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Re: WPAC: MERANTI - Typhoon

#153 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:41 am

Don't think intensity will be lowered, it looks a 160kt system.
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Re: WPAC: MERANTI - Typhoon

#154 Postby euro6208 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:59 am

That eyewall is just so duperty duper super strong!

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Re: WPAC: MERANTI - Typhoon

#155 Postby euro6208 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:22 am

Taken from another blog...


Holy crap, Meranti is so intense it's not in any of the images in the T2-T8 Dvorak paper, it seems to have passed T8.0.
This is one heck of a intense cyclone. So intense in fact, beacuse it not being in the dvorak, you can expect Dvorak to drop to T3.0 or something beacuse it doesn't know what it is, as it is not in the Dvorak papers. A few hours ago it looked like Haiyan.
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Re: WPAC: MERANTI - Typhoon

#156 Postby euro6208 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:27 am

WOW!

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Re: WPAC: MERANTI - Typhoon

#158 Postby euro6208 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:18 am

I wonder if JTWC will budge and increase the intensity. Has to have a dvorak of 8.0 which is clearly just catching up. This typhoon is clearly beating the dvorak scale...

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It has to be around 170 to 185 knots now...
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Re: WPAC: MERANTI - Typhoon

#159 Postby wxmann_91 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:27 am

^Not quite... Haiyan in 2013 had the dark gray completely encircling the eye (we only have the light gray here). Haiyan had estimates >T8.0 at times.
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Re: WPAC: MERANTI - Typhoon

#160 Postby euro6208 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:31 am

WDPN31 PGTW 130900
MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI//
SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR SUPER TYPHOON 16W (MERANTI) WARNING NR
19//
RMKS/
1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS.
2. 6 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS.
SUPER TYPHOON (STY) 16W (MERANTI), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 330 NM
SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF TAIPEI, TAIWAN, HAS TRACKED WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT
14 KNOTS OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS. ANIMATED MULTISPECTRAL SATELLITE
IMAGERY SHOWS THE SYSTEM HAS MAINTAINED A SYMMETRIC ULTRA-DEEP
CONVECTIVE SIGNATURE AND A SHARPLY-OUTLINED EYE THAT HAS EXPANDED TO
15 NM IN DIAMETER. THE INITIAL POSITION IS BASED WITH HIGH CONFIDENCE
ON LOW REFLECTIVITY EYE FEATURES IN THE 130541Z AMSU-B AND 130347Z
36GHZ GCOM MICROWAVE SATELLITE PASSES. THE INITIAL INTENSITY OF 160
KNOTS IS BASED ON ACCORDANT DVORAK ESTIMATES FROM PGTW AND RJTD.
UPPER LEVEL ANALYSIS INDICATES THE SYSTEM IS JUST SOUTH OF THE RIDGE
AXIS IN AN AREA OF LIGHT EASTERLY VERTICAL WIND SHEAR (VWS) AND
EXCELLENT RADIAL OUTFLOW SUSTAINED BY A POINT SOURCE ANTI-CYCLONE
ALOFT. SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES AT 30 CELSIUS AND HIGH OCEAN HEAT
CONTENT ARE ALSO VERY FAVORABLE. STY 16W IS UNDER THE STEERING
INFLUENCE OF A SUBTROPICAL RIDGE (STR) TO THE NORTH.
3. FORECAST REASONING.
A. NO CHANGE IN THE FORECAST PHILOSOPHY SINCE THE PREVIOUS
PROGNOSTIC REASONING MESSAGE.
B. STY 16W WILL TRACK GENERALLY WEST-NORTHWESTWARD THROUGHOUT ITS
LIFESPAN UNDER THE STEERING INFLUENCE OF THE STR. INCREASING VWS AND
LAND INTERACTION, AS IT BRUSHES THE SOUTHERN COAST OF TAIWAN, WILL
GRADUALLY WEAKEN THE SYSTEM. SHORTLY AFTER TAU 36, STY MERANTI WILL
MAKE LANDFALL IN CHINA NEAR SHANTOU. THE RUGGED TERRAIN AND INCREASED
VWS WILL RAPIDLY ERODE THE SYSTEM, DISSIPATING AS A SIGNIFICANT
CYCLONE OVER LAND BY TAU 72. DYNAMIC MODEL GUIDANCE REMAINS IN GOOD
AGREEMENT, LENDING HIGH CONFIDENCE IN THE JTWC TRACK FORECAST UP TO
LANDFALL IN CHINA WHERE TRACK VARIABILITY IS HIGH DUE TO LAND
INTERACTION.//
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