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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#81 Postby Alyono » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:39 am

that looks like a catastrophic flood for northern Columbia on the EC
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#82 Postby bamajammer4eva » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:39 am

Wow so it stalls for nearly 24 hrs practically over high terrain land and drops 5MB
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#83 Postby sma10 » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:39 am

HurricaneEric wrote:00z Euro @ 144hr

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Will be very interesting to follow this trend. Both the Euro and UK want to dive the system SW as it strengthens in hr 144. If it get too tied up in Colombia it could disrupt the system a bit. I recall a similar storm, I think Bret in 1993 doing this, and really damaged the circulation. Just something to look for...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#84 Postby USTropics » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:40 am

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HurricaneEric wrote:00z Euro @ 144hr

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... watl_7.png


Will be very interesting to follow this trend. Both the Euro and UK want to dive the system SW as it strengthens in hr 144. If it get too tied up in Colombia it could disrupt the system a bit. I recall a similar storm, I think Bret in 1993 doing this, and really damaged the circulation. Just something to look for...


August 7–9, 1993 - Tropical Storm Bret moves across northern Venezuela and Colombia. In Venezuela, the storm drops at least 13.35 inches (339 mm) in Guanare. The rainfall causes mudslides, particularly near the city of Caracas, that cover many low-income housing units. Of the 173 deaths caused by Bret in Venezuela, most occur in the low-income areas near Caracas. Lack of preparation, including weather forecasters prematurely stating the worst of the storm is over, is part of the problem. In all, 10,000 are left homeless, and damaged totals $25 million (1993 USD, $37 million 2008 USD). In Colombia, Bret causes one death and one injury.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_South_America_tropical_cyclones
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#85 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:43 am

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Heading north @ hr 192
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#86 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:44 am

Hopefully this run is the beginning of the end to the previous doomsday hurricane runs.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#87 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:45 am

seems to be following closer to the mean of the GFS Ensembles runs
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#88 Postby sma10 » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:48 am

I think this run may mark the end of the short-lived Euro/GFS bromance.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#89 Postby Ivanhater » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:49 am

Very odd stall...very different from previous runs
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#90 Postby LarryWx » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:49 am

Alyono, I may want to take you up on your 100-1 odds against an east of Bermuda track. Although still unlikely, it is suddenly looking more tempting. :lol:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#91 Postby wxmann_91 » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:50 am

Hurricaneman wrote:seems to be following closer to the mean of the GFS Ensembles runs

East of GEFS, but following the east trend by it and other models...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#92 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:51 am

On it's way to its date with shredder:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#93 Postby USTropics » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:51 am

00z GFS ensemble tracks, some do support this type of track:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#94 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:52 am

Most do :uarrow:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#95 Postby WeatherEmperor » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:52 am

Hits hispanola going straight North. Makes the earlier Canadian run not look so stupid afterall


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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#96 Postby Alyono » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:52 am

LarryWx wrote:Alyono, I may want to take you up on your 100-1 odds against an east of Bermuda track. Although still unlikely, it is suddenly looking more tempting. :lol:


wouldn't verify as this looks like it wants to make history in Haiti. That is west of Bermuda
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#97 Postby Alyono » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:53 am

WeatherEmperor wrote:Hits hispanola going straight North. Makes the earlier Canadian run not look so stupid afterall


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No, the Canadian run is very stupid. Look when it brings this into the Caribbean. It is developing the wrong area of vorticity
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#98 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:53 am

Ivanhater wrote:Very odd stall...very different from previous runs


Pretty much timing. A faster system means the low moving across the CONUS will pick it up too late. Slower system will allow it to escape.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#99 Postby Ivanhater » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:57 am

Kingarabian wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:Very odd stall...very different from previous runs


Pretty much timing. A faster system means the low moving across the CONUS will pick it up too late. Slower system will allow it to escape.

But that far south would have to mean a huge pattern change to dig the flow north that far south in the Caribbean
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#100 Postby Alyono » Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:58 am

Ivanhater wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:Very odd stall...very different from previous runs


Pretty much timing. A faster system means the low moving across the CONUS will pick it up too late. Slower system will allow it to escape.

But that far south would have to mean a huge pattern change to dig the flow north that far south in the Caribbean



The EC will probably have the next run as a repeat of Joan. It has zero run to run consistency. It's their paramaterization. It is no better than the GFDL now
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