ATL: MARIA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2461 Postby supercane4867 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:07 pm

artist wrote:San Juan mayor said it will be 4-6 months for power to return there. I can't imagine.

PR emergency management director just said 100 percent of the island is without electricity. The whole PR society is probably going to be shut down for months after Maria.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2462 Postby JBCycloneStan » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:16 pm

Really concerned with the deep convection bubbling up over San Juan - can someone explain this phenomenon? And if it isn't restrengthening of the system, what is it?
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2463 Postby Blinhart » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:20 pm

173730 1831N 06706W 6971 02815 9632 +128 +125 006039 043 119 018 03

I thought 03 flag was for flight level, is it for Surface (thought that was 05)
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2464 Postby artist » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:23 pm

supercane4867 wrote:
artist wrote:San Juan mayor said it will be 4-6 months for power to return there. I can't imagine.

PR emergency management director just said 100 percent of the island is without electricity. The whole PR society is probably going to be shut down for months after Maria.

Personally, I can't begin to imagine. I think 10 days without power after a hurricane was the longest for us and it was bad. Without a generator, only ice to keeps perishables cold. My thoughts and prayers are with all the islands effected by this hurricane season.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2465 Postby PandaCitrus » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:26 pm

Caguas puerto Rico completely flooded. In the mountains southeast of San Juan.

 https://twitter.com/youngchunlee_/status/910576733438476288


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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2466 Postby HenkL » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:27 pm

HDOB Quality control flags.

First column indicates status of positional variables as follows:
0 All parameters of nominal accuracy
1 Lat/lon questionable
2 Geopotential altitude or static pressure questionable
3 Both lat/lon and GA/PS questionable

Second column indicates status of meteorological variables as follows:
0 All parameters of nominal accuracy
1 T or TD questionable
2 Flight-level winds questionable
3 SFMR parameter(s) questionable
4 T/TD and FL winds questionable
5 T/TD and SFMR questionable
6 FL winds and SFMR questionable
9 T/TD, FL winds, and SFMR questionable
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2467 Postby txwatcher91 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:34 pm

Recon has found the pressure is already dropping at a decent pace since getting back over water... from 960mb to 958mb in one pass.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2468 Postby supercane4867 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:36 pm

JBCycloneStan wrote:Really concerned with the deep convection bubbling up over San Juan - can someone explain this phenomenon? And if it isn't restrengthening of the system, what is it?

The deep convections are near stationary bands developing over high terrain due to moisture flow hitting mountains from the south. They are persistent until the circulation moves out which will continue to cause massive flooding.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2469 Postby Otown_Wx » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:38 pm

Can someone explain why we are getting so many major hurricanes this season? Seems from what I remember last active season was 2004 and 2005. Since then its been pretty quiet until now. Want to understand what has changed and is this the start of more active seasons to come. I can't recall any seasons that have had so many Cat 5 hurricanes in the past.Thanks ahead for replys.

Btw... We just got power on Monday here after Irma. Long 8 days!!! Glad to be back....
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2470 Postby supercane4867 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:39 pm

Large eye becoming better defined on satellite imagery. The structure is basically intact after crossing PR.

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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2471 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:40 pm

Otown_Wx wrote:Can someone explain why we are getting so many major hurricanes this season? Seems from what I remember last active season was 2004 and 2005. Since then its been pretty quiet until now. Want to understand what has changed and is this the start of more active seasons to come. I can't recall any seasons that have had so many Cat 5 hurricanes in the past.Thanks ahead for replys.

Btw... We just got power on Monday here after Irma. Long 8 days!!! Glad to be back....


Above average MDR temps and an emerging La Nina.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2472 Postby Tireman4 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:45 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
Otown_Wx wrote:Can someone explain why we are getting so many major hurricanes this season? Seems from what I remember last active season was 2004 and 2005. Since then its been pretty quiet until now. Want to understand what has changed and is this the start of more active seasons to come. I can't recall any seasons that have had so many Cat 5 hurricanes in the past.Thanks ahead for replys.

Btw... We just got power on Monday here after Irma. Long 8 days!!! Glad to be back....


Above average MDR temps and an emerging La Nina.


Yep...lots of latent heat out there...essentially ( I think I am right) tropical systems are the Earth's way of letting off steam...

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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2473 Postby JBCycloneStan » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:45 pm

supercane4867 wrote:
JBCycloneStan wrote:Really concerned with the deep convection bubbling up over San Juan - can someone explain this phenomenon? And if it isn't restrengthening of the system, what is it?

The deep convections are near stationary bands developing over high terrain due to moisture flow hitting mountains from the south. They are persistent until the circulation moves out which will continue to cause massive flooding.


Ugh what a terrible scenario for PR :(
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2474 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:46 pm

Something to note, Maria has a huge ventilation, would that influence ridge pumping by any chance?
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2475 Postby bob rulz » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:48 pm

SEASON_CANCELED wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:Hopefully the opportunity is used to completely rebuild the power infrastructure in Puerto Rico from the ground up.


Its not happening from a local government standpoint. There is no money. It will have to come from washington DC, which i dont doubt. Puerto Rico needs to be a state already maybe this will be the event that spurs them to finally do it.


Unfortunately, Puerto Rico becoming a state probably won't ever happen because of political reasons. I'll just leave it at that to avoid a debate, other than to say that there's no good reason why a U.S. territory should have such an outdated infrastructure. It's inexcusable.

Imran_doomhaMwx wrote:Video coming from San Juan...

 https://twitter.com/weatherchannel/status/910495009383706626




Oh hey, it looks like the winds finally got the dumpster.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2476 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:57 pm

supercane4867 wrote:Large eye becoming better defined on satellite imagery. The structure is basically intact after crossing PR.

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It is amazing that the overall inner core structure is remarkably still well intact after crossing Puerto Rico. Just amazing!

Praying for all in the islands and across Puerto Rico!!!
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2477 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:57 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:Something to note, Maria has a huge ventilation, would that influence ridge pumping by any chance?


It could, but the process is not well known..
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2478 Postby wxman57 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:13 pm

Steering currents for Maria look well-established for the next 5 days, keeping it well east of Florida. It's beyond then where the uncertainty lies. The key player will be the arrival of a cold front along the East U.S. Coast next Wednesday. A slower front and/or a faster Maria could spell trouble for southern New England. Currently, it looks like the front will arrive in time to spare southern New England. Maria could get close enough to the Outer Banks to brush the coast with TS winds, though.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2479 Postby sikkar » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:13 pm

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The most recent microwave. Looking good after this much land interaction.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2480 Postby Salix88 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:19 pm

Is Maria following NHC's track? Are there any wobbles at the moment in her trajectory?
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