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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#501 Postby tropicwatch » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:39 am

Convection is building and appears to be expanding.

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#502 Postby hd44 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:39 am

If this doesn't become a wave I will be shocked. However if it can gain some latitude watch out later on.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#503 Postby HurricaneBrain » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:42 am

Why would you be shocked?
hd44 wrote:If this doesn't become a wave I will be shocked. However if it can gain some latitude watch out later on.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#504 Postby hd44 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:45 am

HurricaneBrain wrote:Why would you be shocked?
hd44 wrote:If this doesn't become a wave I will be shocked. However if it can gain some latitude watch out later on.


Poorly organized and matching up with the ecmwf who shows it. There is limited turning right now on the cloud structure.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#505 Postby HurricaneBrain » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:49 am

I'm not buying it.
hd44 wrote:
HurricaneBrain wrote:Why would you be shocked?
hd44 wrote:If this doesn't become a wave I will be shocked. However if it can gain some latitude watch out later on.


Poorly organized and matching up with the ecmwf who shows it. There is limited turning right now on the cloud structure.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#506 Postby Alyono » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:53 am

it's probably a wave now. This likely was not a tropical storm impact on the Windard Islands, but rather a strong wave/broad low pressure passage. Weather the same though
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#507 Postby tropicwatch » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:31 am

Pressures might be dropping. Recon just went through an area with a pressure approximately 1008.4. The pressures in the same basic area on the previous pass was closer to 1010mb.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#508 Postby Cunxi Huang » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:33 am

shear...shear...shear...shear a lot lol

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#509 Postby Thetxhurricanemaster » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:33 am

panamatropicwatch wrote:Pressures might be dropping. Recon just went through an area with a pressure approximately 1008.4. The pressures in the same basic area on the previous pass was closer to 1010mb.

NEW convective bursts likely lowered the pressures slightly let's see if this continues
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#511 Postby Blown Away » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:49 am

12z models trending lower, so maybe the lack or organization is expected short term...
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#512 Postby Thetxhurricanemaster » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:54 am

Blown Away wrote:12z models trending lower, so maybe the lack or organization is expected short term...

This was expected it won't gain strength till 60 hours
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#513 Postby Alyono » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:54 am

better defined center on this pass
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#514 Postby Blown Away » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:58 am

Thetxhurricanemaster wrote:
Blown Away wrote:12z models trending lower, so maybe the lack or organization is expected short term...

This was expected it won't gain strength till 60 hours


Recent CMC, GFS, Navgem significantly weaker through 60 hours... Let's see how that plays out long term...
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#515 Postby Thetxhurricanemaster » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:02 pm

Blown Away wrote:
Thetxhurricanemaster wrote:
Blown Away wrote:12z models trending lower, so maybe the lack or organization is expected short term...

This was expected it won't gain strength till 60 hours


Recent CMC, GFS, Navgem significantly weaker through 60 hours... Let's see how that plays out long term...

Yes this was expected !
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#516 Postby Thetxhurricanemaster » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:03 pm

Blown Away wrote:
Thetxhurricanemaster wrote:
Blown Away wrote:12z models trending lower, so maybe the lack or organization is expected short term...

This was expected it won't gain strength till 60 hours


Recent CMC, GFS, Navgem significantly weaker through 60 hours... Let's see how that plays out long term...

Euro said it could open up so like I said short term doesn't look promising
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#517 Postby Thetxhurricanemaster » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:03 pm

Alyono wrote:better defined center on this pass

Yep it's slowly getting better
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#518 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:56 pm

SUMMARY OF 200 PM AST...1800 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...13.2N 62.1W
ABOUT 60 MI...95 KM W OF ST. VINCENT
ABOUT 85 MI...135 KM WSW OF ST. LUCIA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...40 MPH...65 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 275 DEGREES AT 21 MPH...33 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1005 MB...29.68 INCHES
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#519 Postby bevgo » Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:34 pm

Y'all don't know me since I rarely post but I fell I know y'all. #please be careful and I am praying for all effected by Harvey.
#2 nothing is allowed in coastal Mississippi or Louisiana this year. I have a big fan in my back yard and sending another to Louisiana. My hubby works in NOLA and I am trying to get on disability. I need him to work. My early retirement will not pay the bills
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#520 Postby Cunxi Huang » Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:41 pm

TXNT24 KNES 181800
TCSNTL

A. 09L (HARVEY)

B. 18/1745Z

C. 13.1N

D. 62.1W

E. FIVE/GOES-E

F. T2.0/2.5/D0.5/24HRS

G. IR/EIR/VIS

H. REMARKS...DT=2.0 BASED ON SHEAR PATTERN DEFINED BY LOOSE CLOUD LINES,
PROXIMITY NEAR OVERCAST, NOT SMALL SIZE. PT=2.0. MET=2.0. FT IS BASED
ON DT.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

NIL


...SCHWARTZ


Shear pattern used. Definitely it's being sheared.

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