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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#881 Postby StormTracker » Sun Aug 20, 2017 1:26 pm

Nimbus wrote:The northwestern Vort is throwing outflow boundaries.
Southern vort is dry again but well defined.
Any of the models that develop the southern vort recurve east of Florida?

Are there any models developing the southern vort is my question...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#882 Postby StormTracker » Sun Aug 20, 2017 1:33 pm

If the very well defined southern vort could steal some of that convection from the northern vort to get going, I think the models would change their scenario. Could the ULL possibly kill off the northern vort and the southern one take over?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#883 Postby SootyTern » Sun Aug 20, 2017 1:34 pm

Nimbus wrote:The northwestern Vort is throwing outflow boundaries.
Southern vort is dry again but well defined.


Is that NW vort pushing the ULL out of the way? ULL is looking squished right now
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#884 Postby N2FSU » Sun Aug 20, 2017 1:36 pm

StormTracker wrote:
Nimbus wrote:The northwestern Vort is throwing outflow boundaries.
Southern vort is dry again but well defined.
Any of the models that develop the southern vort recurve east of Florida?

Are there any models developing the southern vort is my question...


Perhaps that's what the 12z GFS is trying to do, with it forming something on the trailing southern end of the wave once it crosses the peninsula?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#885 Postby Emmett_Brown » Sun Aug 20, 2017 1:39 pm

The 12z Euro is showing slightly more defined vorticity than on recent runs. The 850 mb vort hangs out around FL for a while... SE FL on Tuesday, crosses over to just offshore SW FL on W and Th, and back across to just offshore ECFL on Friday. Eventually develops it as it moves NE. This is a slight step toward development. So, more models are starting to develop this eventually, just not a lot of agreement yet on when and where. I will say, that if the Euro is right, FL may get quite a bit of rain regardless of development because of multi days of close proximity to 92L.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#886 Postby Nimbus » Sun Aug 20, 2017 1:46 pm

SootyTern wrote:
Nimbus wrote:The northwestern Vort is throwing outflow boundaries.
Southern vort is dry again but well defined.


Is that NW vort pushing the ULL out of the way? ULL is looking squished right now


The ULL north of the Yucatan looks squished from the Texas high.
The ULL might fill in or dive Southwest around the high which would pretty much guarantee 92L crosses Florida into the gulf.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#887 Postby blp » Sun Aug 20, 2017 2:17 pm

Yes closes vorticity at 72hr. Big change from last run.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#888 Postby bamajammer4eva » Sun Aug 20, 2017 2:27 pm

Canadian Ensembles show Harvey in the SW gulf and 92L possibly in the Eastern Gulf although looks like more show East of Florida

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#889 Postby ColdMiser123 » Sun Aug 20, 2017 2:59 pm

The 12z EPS is considerably more aggressive on development off of the SE coast. Ridge placement is not favorable for this to impact locations north of Florida, and the overwhelming majority of ensemble members keep 92L offshore.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#890 Postby gatorcane » Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:29 pm

Looks like a west shift in the guidance:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#891 Postby gatorcane » Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:38 pm

Could this be the vorticity SE of 92l and north of Puerto Rico the GFS has been showing moving up the cost of SE Florida in 96-108 hours?

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#892 Postby pgoss11 » Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:39 pm

gatorcane wrote:Looks like a west shift in the guidance:

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That's a pretty abrupt turn out to sea. Must be the orientation of the ridge or just following the flow from the trough.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#893 Postby SFLcane » Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:42 pm

There's no doubt that what it ever it is is paying SFL a visit now in what form who knows.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#894 Postby gatorcane » Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:55 pm

Based on the last ECMWF run, 92l will be impacting Florida from Tuesday through Friday so four days.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#895 Postby bamajammer4eva » Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:57 pm

Some of the models recurve so sharply that it almost looks like they are hinting at a loop. Then HWFI looks too far south to recurve.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#896 Postby tgenius » Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:03 pm

gatorcane wrote:Based on the last ECMWF run, 92l will be impacting Florida from Tuesday through Friday so four days.


This may end up the no name storm in 99 or 2000 that dumped like 15-20 inches of rain in dade! I was rained in and couldn't get to work
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#897 Postby jlauderdal » Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:09 pm

tgenius wrote:
gatorcane wrote:Based on the last ECMWF run, 92l will be impacting Florida from Tuesday through Friday so four days.


This may end up the no name storm in 99 or 2000 that dumped like 15-20 inches of rain in dade! I was rained in and couldn't get to work
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#898 Postby Thetxhurricanemaster » Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:14 pm

Most models keep this weak I'm not expecting much more than a weak tropical storm stalled off the east coast of Florida
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#899 Postby alienstorm » Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:15 pm

With all the rain that we have had in Southern Florida a prolonged storm even if weak will create massive flooding.
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#900 Postby tgenius » Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:01 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
tgenius wrote:
gatorcane wrote:Based on the last ECMWF run, 92l will be impacting Florida from Tuesday through Friday so four days.


This may end up the no name storm in 99 or 2000 that dumped like 15-20 inches of rain in dade! I was rained in and couldn't get to work
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Actually I really was! My apartment complex had 12-15 inches of rain. A coworker with an old 70s Toyota Land Cruiser had to pick me up and drop me off from work.

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