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Re: WPAC: INVEST 92W

#21 Postby euro6208 » Tue Apr 11, 2017 4:32 am

THE AREA OF CONVECTION (INVEST 92W) PREVIOUSLY LOCATED
NEAR 3.0N 150.0E, IS NOW LOCATED NEAR 4.0N 141.7E, APPROXIMATELY 145
NM NORTH OF YAP. ANIMATED MULTISPECTRAL SATELLITE IMAGERY AND AN
110034Z MHS METOP-A 89GHZ MICROWAVE PASS DEPICT SHALLOW CONVECTION
ALONG THE WESTERN SEMI-CIRCLE OF A LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER
(LLCC). AS THE LLCC MOVED WESTWARD FROM UNDERNEATH A POINT SOURCE,
ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS SHOWS MARGINALLY FAVORABLE CONDITIONS WITH
LOW (10-15 KNOTS) VERTICAL WIND SHEAR, DIFFLUENT OUTFLOW, AND
CONDUCIVE (29-30C) SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES. AN 110036Z METOP-A 25KM
ASCAT PASS SHOWS 15-20 KNOT WINDS ALONG THE NORTHERN PERIPHERY OF
THE LLCC. DYNAMIC GLOBAL MODELS SHOW SLOW DEVELOPMENT OF THE SYSTEM
AS IT TRACKS TO THE NORTHWEST OVER THE COMING DAYS. MAXIMUM
SUSTAINED SURFACE WINDS ARE ESTIMATED AT 15 TO 20 KNOTS. MINIMUM SEA
LEVEL PRESSURE IS ESTIMATED TO BE NEAR 1005 MB. BASED ON THE
MARGINALLY FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENT ANALYZED, ALBEIT, THE SUBSIDED DEEP
CONVECTION, THE POTENTIAL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SIGNIFICANT
TROPICAL CYCLONE WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS REMAINS MEDIUM.
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 92W

#22 Postby cycloneye » Tue Apr 11, 2017 12:42 pm

12z GFS has been the most aggressive so far.Iin this run having a Tropical Storm making landfall in Mindanao/Visayas.ECMWF doesn't develop.

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Re: WPAC: INVEST 92W

#23 Postby euro6208 » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:38 pm

TXPQ25 KNES 111502
TCSWNP

A. TROPICAL DISTURBANCE (92W)

B. 11/1430Z

C. 6.1N

D. 141.9E

E. FIVE/HIMAWARI-8

F. T1.0/1.0/D1/24HRS

G. IR/EIR/SWIR

H. REMARKS...COLD CONVECTION HAS DEVELOPED IN THE NORTHEASTERN
PORTION OF A TROUGH AXIS. RECENT SCATTEROMETER DATA SHOWS A VERY BROAD
CIRCULATION. PBO CLOUD SYSTEM CENTER. BANDING OF SLIGHTLY MORE THAN 2/10
RESULTS IN A DT OF 1.0. MET AND PT ARE ALSO 1.0. FT IS BASED ON DT.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

NIL


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Re: WPAC: INVEST 92W

#24 Postby dexterlabio » Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:16 pm

cycloneye wrote:12z GFS has been the most aggressive so far.Iin this run having a Tropical Storm making landfall in Mindanao/Visayas.ECMWF doesn't develop.

http://i.imgur.com/yDaMaSx.png


I thought that was a weaker run, GFS was showing an intense typhoon the other day so I guess it's been trending weaker.
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 92W

#25 Postby stormstrike » Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:26 pm

GFS 18z run has it again at Typhoon threshold by landfall
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 92W

#26 Postby 1900hurricane » Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:17 pm

I'd probably side with the weaker guidance solutions. The GFS and its ensembles are far and away the most bullish with this system. The CMC and ECMWF each only show weak development, and their ensemble means are both even more bearish. I still think the chances of development are pretty good, but it might be tough for the system to get going as it tries to liberate itself from the near-equatorial monsoon trough and gain a little bit of latitude. The dearth of convective activity with 92W suggests that it may already be struggling with these issues.

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Re: WPAC: INVEST 92W

#27 Postby 1900hurricane » Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:52 pm

It's worth noting that dry air is currently a large inhibiting factor.

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#28 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:55 pm

00z GFS it looks to be a large TD.
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 92W

#29 Postby dexterlabio » Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:58 pm

^To add, the bullish runs from the GFS are not even consistent. Looks like we're back with a weak TS in the latest 00z run.

Although we expect TC formations in the WPAC all-year round, the intense ones are less likely to form in April. I still expect the action to start sometime in May or June, with the really interesting systems forming later in the year.
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 92W

#30 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:27 pm

dexterlabio wrote:^To add, the bullish runs from the GFS are not even consistent. Looks like we're back with a weak TS in the latest 00z run.

Although we expect TC formations in the WPAC all-year round, the intense ones are less likely to form in April. I still expect the action to start sometime in May or June, with the really interesting systems forming later in the year.


Unless i'm mistaken the GFS 00Z run is a large very moist TD at best.
looks a flood threat.



https://i.imgsafe.org/daaee1d5c4.png

https://i.imgsafe.org/daaf77a028.png

https://i.imgsafe.org/dab009b997.png

A large tropical... rain depression
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 92W

#31 Postby dexterlabio » Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:43 am

Digital-TC-Chaser wrote:
Unless i'm mistaken the GFS 00Z run is a large very moist TD at best.
looks a flood threat.



https://i.imgsafe.org/daaee1d5c4.png

https://i.imgsafe.org/daaf77a028.png

https://i.imgsafe.org/dab009b997.png

A large tropical... rain depression


I couldn't tell the difference between a TD and a weak TS on those kinds of map so I really have no idea. :lol: Although I'm inclined to think that it has a shot to be a named 40kt storm at most.

It will still be bad if it becomes a disorganized blob of rain clouds, especially that the country has been shaken with <M6.0 tremors for the past week. The latest moderate earthquake was earlier today in Mindanao island, and that seems to be where this potential storm is headed. Topsoil in mountain slopes might already be loose.
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 92W

#32 Postby stormstrike » Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:31 am

92W has dissipated according to JTWC
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 92W

#33 Postby euro6208 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:24 am

stormstrike wrote:92W has dissipated according to JTWC


Still being tracked by ATCR.

92W INVEST 170412 0600 5.6N 140.2E WPAC 15 1006
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 92W

#34 Postby euro6208 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:07 am

CMC, NAVGEM, and EURO agrees on a weak LPA/TD making landfall but only EURO has it becoming Muifa in the SCS.

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GFS still has a landfalling TS rolling through the Philippines.

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Re: WPAC: INVEST 92W

#35 Postby euro6208 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:24 am

92W INVEST 170412 1200 5.8N 139.1E WPAC 15 1006

JMA's Koba scale only peaks it at 1006mb before landfalling. Remember the Koba scale is 10 min...
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 92W

#36 Postby wxman57 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:15 am

JTWC has yet to identify a disturbance approaching the Philippines. Nor do they identify the disturbance in the south-central Bay of Bengal that will likely become a depression in about 48 hrs. The disturbance east of the Philippines looks fairly disorganized today. Doubt it will do much before passing through the Philippines.

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#37 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:27 pm

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Re: WPAC: INVEST 92W

#38 Postby 1900hurricane » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:22 pm

After sucking for a while, it's interesting how quickly 92W has gone to looking like a respectable invest again. The dry air appears to be walled off now, and dual outflow channels certainly help. Time is running short though, and it'll probably be moving into the Philippines in 48 hours or less.

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Re: WPAC: INVEST 92W

#39 Postby cycloneye » Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:22 pm

JTWC upgrades to medium once again.

Here is an update on now again INVEST #92W as JTWC upgrades to medium.
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AN AREA OF CONVECTION (INVEST 92W) HAS PERSISTED NEAR 7.7N
134.4E, APPROXIMATELY 25 NM WEST-NORTHWEST OF PALAU. ANIMATED
MULTISPECTRAL SATELLITE IMAGERY DEPICTS BUILDING CONVECTION OVER AN
ILL-DEFINED LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER. ALTHOUGH THE DEEPENING
CONVECTION APPEARS OMINOUS, OBSERVATION FROM PALAU FURTHER
ILLUSTRATES THE WEAK LLCC WITH LIGHT AND VARIABLE WINDS WITH A
PRESSURE INCREASE OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS. THE INCREASED CONVECTION
IS CONTRIBUTED TO CONVERGING WINDS ALONG THE NORTHERN EDGE OF THE
EASTERLY WAVE WITH STRONG DUAL CHANNEL OUTFLOW AND LOW VERTICAL WIND
SHEAR. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED SURFACE WINDS ARE ESTIMATED AT 15 TO 20
KNOTS. MINIMUM SEA LEVEL PRESSURE IS ESTIMATED TO BE NEAR 1010 MB.
GLOBAL MODELS DO NOT SHOW SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT OF THIS
DISTURBANCE, HOWEVER, BASED ON THE FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENT, THE
POTENTIAL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE
WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS IS MEDIUM.
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Re: WPAC: INVEST 92W

#40 Postby euro6208 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:39 pm

TXPQ25 KNES 121513
TCSWNP

A. TROPICAL DISTURBANCE (92W)

B. 12/1430Z

C. 7.7N

D. 137.1E

E. FIVE/HIMAWARI-8

F. TOO WEAK

G. IR/EIR/SWIR

H. REMARKS...THIS SYSTEM IS TOO WEAK TO CLASSIFY DUE TO LACK OF
DISCERNABLE LOW LEVEL CENTER. THIS IS THE LAST BULLETIN UNLESS SYSTEM
REDEVELOPS.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

NIL


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